GD "Graphic Novel" Collab

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

Pish posh, eyesight is overrated.

Anyways, charcter design is concering the literal way they look, and I think that kind of encompasses scenes that will be used more than once, like JOS house. While every section is gonna be done in that person's particular style, (and photography's gonna stray a little here), we can strive for a little uniformity so that in one section JOS' mom isn't a large black woman and in the other a little old lady. Yah know?

Ah, y'know..

Ok, I get it.

Scene by scene, for sure. Also thinking we should do some of the b-sides/outtakes to make room. Or at least the good ones.

pssh. you wanna know _{TOO MUCH TOO SOON IS AN AWESOME SONG} a secret? Green Day is _{TOO MUCH TOO SOON IS AN AWESOME SONG} a really good band.

no subconscious messages here or anything

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

Ah, y'know..

Ok, I get it.

pssh. you wanna know _{TOO MUCH TOO SOON IS AN AWESOME SONG} a secret? Green Day is _{TOO MUCH TOO SOON IS AN AWESOME SONG} a really good band.

no subconscious messages here or anything

ANd you know, _{that's a really clever use of the format buttons, so} I was thinking, all the outtakes kinda suck, would it be okay with you if we _{used Too Much Too Soon, let you do part of it, and made you the grand embassador of the song?} we didn't use them? Just thinking that would be the right thing to do.

Here's my first imput on the story. I forsee this thread groaning under the weight of many long posts very soon : I always thought starting the album off with American Idiot didn't completly flow with the rest of the story, but since it is the begining here's how I think it could work. (I kind of think we should do the songs in order since that is how the great mastermind intended them to be, but I dunno. Also, we may use the outtakes to have enough material for everyone to cover. Let me know where you think they belong.)

JOS' famiily was once a complete unit living together in the suburbs. They seemed like the perfect happy suburb family, since JOS' dad was in politics and they had enough money to live in the nice part. Eventually for reasons JOS couldn't understand his mom started getting frustrated with his dad, and eventually it led to a divorce. He offered her alimony & child support but she wouldn't take it, and took JOS to the crappier outskirts of the suburb where she could afford to live. JOS did okay and still got to visit his dad, but one day he commited suicide. This was because he involved in a very corrupt deal on stealing government cheese. Either, A) he should be a bad guy, responsible for the crime and maybe even taking it from welfare, (which JOS & mom are currently on for irony and extra angst from JOS to dad), and he's about to get caught, or B) He had a small part and is about to be framed for the entire crime. Either way, this devestates JOS and gives him a horrible hatred against politicains. He learns about anarchy and this gets him into punk.

Meanwhile in the JOS & mom household things aren't great. They don't communicate well, because well for one JOS is somewhat an asshole teenager, and also because I think his mom should have some problem. Either maybe a psychelogical one, ilke bi-polar or panic disorder, or something tragic, like maybe JOS had a little sister but she died. Well, that and her ex husband killed himself and she's struggling to make ends meet. Things aren't good for her, and JOS doesn't have the empathy to understand her problems and just thinks she's ignoring and neglecting his feelings.

Also mom goes through a lot of bad boyfriends due to her somewhat unstable state, thus all of them being generically called "Brads", and growing up watching this gives JOS the bad impression that relationships are meant to crash and burn and girls are something you can just cycle through. Since a lot of the girls on his current scene are desperate and needy anyway he gets away with this. This is why Whatsername is such a groundbreaker in JOS life.

I'm definitely in...

As a nod to Green Day, I think I'd like to do the 'intro'... Leading into American Idiot... start this beast off...

Something like this sketchy crap... It'll change by leaps and bounds before it would be anything close to being done... I promise.

Even now, thinking about it... It would be better to put Green Day first... "Don't wanna be an American Idiot"... City / 7-11 (American flag in the back ground)... Then suburbia... Jesus of Suburbia in his house watching TV... "One nation controlled by the media" ... etc...

Very nice artwork. Your buildings are proportioned very well and your figures are undeniably cute!!!

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

ANd you know, _{that's a really clever use of the format buttons, so} I was thinking, all the outtakes kinda suck, would it be okay with you if we _{used Too Much Too Soon, let you do part of it, and made you the grand embassador of the song?} we didn't use them? Just thinking that would be the right thing to do.

Here's my first imput on the story. I forsee this thread groaning under the weight of many long posts very soon : I always thought starting the album off with American Idiot didn't completly flow with the rest of the story, but since it is the begining here's how I think it could work. (I kind of think we should do the songs in order since that is how the great mastermind intended them to be, but I dunno. Also, we may use the outtakes to have enough material for everyone to cover. Let me know where you think they belong.)

(story)

Sounds like a good plan. I agree with you that all the outtakes _yay! kinda suck, so it'd be better to _{use the most awesomest b-side Green Day have made} leave them out.

I really like the calling a bunch of different boyfriends generically Brad. I'd never even thought of that before (in regards to the album at all, not just this project). Lol, new insight.

I think that JOS and his mom do indeed have not a very stable relationship, but something good must've come from it. The rage and love thing is central in the album, I've always assumed that, in regards to his parents, rage stands for Brad and love for his mother.

I also like the way it is explained why the JOS (anyone mind if I call him Johnny? He's called like that in the musical, but I just prefer that. "The JOS" sounds like a machine or something) dislikes politics, but I think that the way you've written it, is a very extensive way of explaining minor details of the story. Although stealing government cheese is pretty great

And on his mom... I would say maybe she is just sick and tired of everything and has a hard time dealing with it, but what you suggested is also an idea. Although I think it shouldn't be too specific, I don't know how naturally that would work into the sort of thing this is going to be.

Whoop, I hope I'm not too critical. Can't always find the balance between suggesting things and looking like a whining bitch who should stop butting into other people's business. Sooo, sorry if it's the latter, not my intention. ^^ and please just say if I should stop or something.

[Nele]

Meanwhile in the JOS & mom household things aren't great. They don't communicate well, because well for one JOS is somewhat an asshole teenager, and also because I think his mom should have some problem. Either maybe a psychelogical one, ilke bi-polar or panic disorder, or something tragic, like maybe JOS had a little sister but she died. Well, that and her ex husband killed himself and she's struggling to make ends meet. Things aren't good for her, and JOS doesn't have the empathy to understand her problems and just thinks she's ignoring and neglecting his feelings.

Also mom goes through a lot of bad boyfriends due to her somewhat unstable state, thus all of them being generically called "Brads", and growing up watching this gives JOS the bad impression that relationships are meant to crash and burn and girls are something you can just cycle through. Since a lot of the girls on his current scene are desperate and needy anyway he gets away with this. This is why Whatsername is such a groundbreaker in JOS life.

I really like the beginning of your story. But I think we shouldn't get into much detail why his Mom's depressed. Like Sanne said, I'd say she's just burnt out and sick of pretty much everything.

And that Brad-idea is really cool as well. I have tois mental picture of a few guys standing next to each other and they've got the yellow nimrod circle over their face, but instead of "nimrod" it says "brad". (I've got no idea where that idea came from. xD)

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

And that Brad-idea is really cool as well. I have tois mental picture of a few guys standing next to each other and they've got the yellow nimrod circle over their face, but instead of "nimrod" it says "brad". (I've got no idea where that idea came from. xD)

I actually really like that. Kind of represents that they're all the same to him. Just more of the same, shitty boyfriend, Brad. It's a great simple visual that clearly and boldly represents the JOS's feelings about the whole deal. I really like it!

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

Sounds like a good plan. I agree with you that all the outtakes _yay! kinda suck, so it'd be better to _{use the most awesomest b-side Green Day have made} leave them out.

I really like the calling a bunch of different boyfriends generically Brad. I'd never even thought of that before (in regards to the album at all, not just this project). Lol, new insight.

I think that JOS and his mom do indeed have not a very stable relationship, but something good must've come from it. The rage and love thing is central in the album, I've always assumed that, in regards to his parents, rage stands for Brad and love for his mother.

I also like the way it is explained why the JOS (anyone mind if I call him Johnny? He's called like that in the musical, but I just prefer that. "The JOS" sounds like a machine or something) dislikes politics, but I think that the way you've written it, is a very extensive way of explaining minor details of the story. Although stealing government cheese is pretty great

And on his mom... I would say maybe she is just sick and tired of everything and has a hard time dealing with it, but what you suggested is also an idea. Although I think it shouldn't be too specific, I don't know how naturally that would work into the sort of thing this is going to be.

Whoop, I hope I'm not too critical. Can't always find the balance between suggesting things and looking like a whining bitch who should stop butting into other people's business. Sooo, sorry if it's the latter, not my intention. ^^ and please just say if I should stop or something.

Yeah, I did over elaborate a bit, I was in the moment and kinda excited. :eyebrow: Your critisism is fine. However, if a lot of people want to do parts, and I don't want to give anybody a part tooo small, we could always go into flashbacks. The love part for his mother is also important, thank you for pointing that out. And yeah, JOS isn't really that poetic of a name haha, I didn't just wanna name him myself without input. Beep beep, JOS self-destructing...

I really like the beginning of your story. But I think we shouldn't get into much detail why his Mom's depressed. Like Sanne said, I'd say she's just burnt out and sick of pretty much everything.

And that Brad-idea is really cool as well. I have tois mental picture of a few guys standing next to each other and they've got the yellow nimrod circle over their face, but instead of "nimrod" it says "brad". (I've got no idea where that idea came from. xD)

That's a great image hahaha. Actually I've always felt kinda endeared to JOS because I have three Brads in my close family, (two in my house), and I'm much more endeared to my mom than my Brad, who I've had rockier times with. So I always thought that was why Billie said "Moms and Bradsssss"

I actually really like that. Kind of represents that they're all the same to him. Just more of the same, shitty boyfriend, Brad. It's a great simple visual that clearly and boldly represents the JOS's feelings about the whole deal. I really like it!

Yeah, and it's like a cocktail of Green Day references! It should definatly be used, awesome!

[Nele]

I actually really like that. Kind of represents that they're all the same to him. Just more of the same, shitty boyfriend, Brad. It's a great simple visual that clearly and boldly represents the JOS's feelings about the whole deal. I really like it!

That's a great image hahaha. Actually I've always felt kinda endeared to JOS because I have three Brads in my close family, (two in my house), and I'm much more endeared to my mom than my Brad, who I've had rockier times with. So I always thought that was why Billie said "Moms and Bradsssss"

Yeah, and it's like a cocktail of Green Day references! It should definatly be used, awesome!

Glad you guys like the idea.

[Daughter.of.Rage.and.Love]

Yeah, I did over elaborate a bit, I was in the moment and kinda excited. :eyebrow: Your critisism is fine. However, if a lot of people want to do parts, and I don't want to give anybody a part tooo small, we could always go into flashbacks. The love part for his mother is also important, thank you for pointing that out. And yeah, JOS isn't really that poetic of a name haha, I didn't just wanna name him myself without input. Beep beep, JOS self-destructing...

I just think that the history of his parents isn't that important. They just are the way they are I mean, no problem if it's explained, but it's not a #1 priority of things that gotta be in the story.

Haha, yes. "JOS", the first thing that came to mind was the Terminator

Hi, I'm the Jee-Oh-Es. :eyebrow: (that's got nothing to do with the Terminator xD)

okay lol sorry I keep asking questions, but will there be actual conversation, or a story that's pure images, with the exception of lyrics?

On the subject of Too Much Too Soon, I think maybe after Extraordinary Girl? If we keep the order of the album, it would make the most sense. In She's a Rebel and Extr. Girl we learn about what the JOS likes so much about her, Too Much Too Soon is kind of like, it's still good but there's also bad things and she is already starting to leave, and in Letterbomb she completely leaves. The only itchy thing is that in TMTS she also leaves him, although I guess you could modify that in some way that it makes sense. If it gets placed there, it would also make sense if Extr Girl and She's a Rebel were swapped, because that way the JOS gradually finds out about Whatsername. First the 'soft' side, then the She's a Rebel side, then it turns out that that can't be good all the time, then it all blows up in their faces and she leaves.

this just made me realize that Whatsername doesn't even have that big of a part in the story.

This is just all suggestions, which I'm making up as I type them (which is a bad idea considering I've already spent the past hour thinking about somewhat deep things and it's nearing 3am ) . I have no idea if it's any good. Good chance if I wake up tomorrow and read this again I'll be like "come on, seriously?".

[st.idiot]

i like the beginning of the story and i think it's just a little bit too over elaborated. as for the mom's problems i think she should be a drug addict. for the rage and love deffinitley have the love connection with his mom and the rage should deffinitley be i think like the whole politics thing and his dad and stuff. i also think johnny (a.k.a. JOS) should be a drop out too.

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

Okay, I should be organizing my school supplies for class tommorow, but instead I've made a silly little banner for your signitures if you want it. Because somehow this seems more exciting than school.

Here's the link: http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/rabidballerina/GDCsquadsig-1.gif

[st.idiot]

that's an awesome logo thingy!!! now it's official. we are soooo a squad now. i feel more important than the fbi

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

that's an awesome logo thingy!!! now it's official. we are soooo a squad now. i feel more important than the fbi

Ah, there, now you can see it properly. : ) And we are pretty much more important than the FBI.

There are sooo many things I should be doing right now, but I love de GDC so.

[Punk-tastic32]

Okay, I should be organizing my school supplies for class tommorow, but instead I've made a silly little banner for your signitures if you want it. Because somehow this seems more exciting than school.

Here's the link: http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/rabidballerina/GDCsquadsig-1.gif

I'm sigging it RIGHT NOW!!

[cartoonjunkie]

DAMMIT!!! I'm late... I'm sure that my opinion isn't going to matter at this point, but I have to say this...

Seriously guys, come on!!! American Idiot is WAY too over done... There's too much crap about it already... I'm really getting sick of it... Plus JOS/Jimmy is just a little, whinny, teeny, emo, bitch, all like "Oh, my life is so horrible and not going the way I want, so I'm going to run away, do drugs and cause more shit..."

As much as I'd like to work on this project... If you guys are going with American Idiot, you're gonna have to count me out... Sorry

[Christie's_Blvd.]

I read it just to spite you, and it's a very awesome story indeed, glad Green Day could do that for yah. This will probably be going on for a while, at least until Chirstmas I reckon. Enough time for advide. And I don't think I'll have to assign unless things get chaoitc, It'll be sections, and I think they'll be first come first serve.

Well thanks, I just wrote it because I needed to get how I felt about the band out of my system (I actually write more than I draw, if you can't tell that from my overly long posts on pretty much everything - like now for instance )

And since it'll be running for a long time I'll just work some stuff out at home and do a real design in my school sketchbook, teachers are usually very helpful when it comes to 'at home' projects.

I really like the beginning of your story. But I think we shouldn't get into much detail why his Mom's depressed. Like Sanne said, I'd say she's just burnt out and sick of pretty much everything.

And that Brad-idea is really cool as well. I have tois mental picture of a few guys standing next to each other and they've got the yellow nimrod circle over their face, but instead of "nimrod" it says "brad". (I've got no idea where that idea came from. xD)

That idea is fantastic It makes JOS's/Johnny's feelings clear that they're just replicas and are built to take his mother's love away!

Okay, I should be organizing my school supplies for class tommorow, but instead I've made a silly little banner for your signitures if you want it. Because somehow this seems more exciting than school.

Here's the link: http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af173/rabidballerina/GDCsquadsig-1.gif

Um, how do I sig it? I want it there but I'm not exactly the best with computers and mine doesn't seem very happy to be working at 2:32 in the morning

I don't know why I always come on here at night...

[CoreyGregory]

Great Idea. I would really like to do some artwork, but I am an ammateur artist, so that wouldn't work out.

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

Well thanks, I just wrote it because I needed to get how I felt about the band out of my system (I actually write more than I draw, if you can't tell that from my overly long posts on pretty much everything - like now for instance )

And since it'll be running for a long time I'll just work some stuff out at home and do a real design in my school sketchbook, teachers are usually very helpful when it comes to 'at home' projects.

That idea is fantastic It makes JOS's/Johnny's feelings clear that they're just replicas and are built to take his mother's love away!

Um, how do I sig it? I want it there but I'm not exactly the best with computers and mine doesn't seem very happy to be working at 2:32 in the morning

I don't know why I always come on here at night...

Art teachers, at least in my school, are wonderful beings. Mine will bend over backwards to help you on a project if you so much as ask.

Thanks, I'm happy you like the idea! As you can see I write a lot too haha. And I know what you mean about getting stuff out, after the two major concerts I've been to, (Evanescance and GD), I came home and wrote pages on the computer just to save away and never read again.

And to sig it: I see you've already gotten some stuff in your sig. Go to the area where you can type all that in, (I can direct you if you don't know), and click on the spot you want it. (before/after text, you probably know that) Click on the little orange rectancle on the format bar, by the smiley guy, and then paste the above hyperlink into the box. That's all, lemme know if it doesn't work.

DAMMIT!!! I'm late... I'm sure that my opinion isn't going to matter at this point, but I have to say this...

Seriously guys, come on!!! American Idiot is WAY too over done... There's too much crap about it already... I'm really getting sick of it... Plus JOS/Jimmy is just a little, whinny, teeny, emo, bitch, all like "Oh, my life is so horrible and not going the way I want, so I'm going to run away, do drugs and cause more shit..."

As much as I'd like to work on this project... If you guys are going with American Idiot, you're gonna have to count me out... Sorry

Blech. Well, AI wasn't hand picked, it came out overwhelmingly on top of the poll. I considered deleating it, for some of the reasons above, (I will the give the story a little more merit than that, he is bitchy and whiney but also a confused teenage asshole who needs straightening out, which he gets. It is a somewhat cliche story but if you ask me told at more insightful angle than that.), but enough people spoke in it's favor so I let it be.

So it is what it is. I hope to do other albums after this one, perhaps more smoothly and skillfully since this is the guinee pig, but for now it is American Idiot. I think that story does have potential, and I can assure you it is not being told cut and paste from the musical and other existing notions. I'll be overseeing that.

Great Idea. I would really like to do some artwork, but I am an ammateur artist, so that wouldn't work out.

Well, if you don't feel confident enough in your artstic skills at the moment, you are always welcome on the brainstorming side.

[Christie's_Blvd.]

Art teachers, at least in my school, are wonderful beings. Mine will bend over backwards to help you on a project if you so much as ask.

Thanks, I'm happy you like the idea! As you can see I write a lot too haha. And I know what you mean about getting stuff out, after the two major concerts I've been to, (Evanescance and GD), I came home and wrote pages on the computer just to save away and never read again.

And to sig it: I see you've already gotten some stuff in your sig. Go to the area where you can type all that in, (I can direct you if you don't know), and click on the spot you want it. (before/after text, you probably know that) Click on the little orange rectancle on the format bar, by the smiley guy, and then paste the above hyperlink into the box. That's all, lemme know if it doesn't work.

Thanks, I've got it now I also decided that I'd change my sig so I don't look like a complete idiot anymore

Where can I see your writing? Do you have it floating around anywhere? I like reading other people's writing as it kind of shows you more about the person for one thing, and tbh I need all the help I can get especially with descriptions.

Most of my writing is a kind of spin on reality. It puts a kind of 'heightened version' (I don't think that makes sense ) of myself into situations that either relate to me or that I could see that character in. I never keep a diary but a few months ago I came back from Alton Towers where I'd told my ex that I still really liked him (I'd dumped him - I wasn't being extremely desperate) and I just spilled everything out. I still keep it because it's a nice reminder of how happy one person could make me and that I can actually be proud of myself for doing something.

I haven't updated my writing in a criminally long time.

The art teachers in my school are pretty much the only ones who do anything to even remotely help us with pretty much anything. They're seriously nice and the one I had last year liked GD so I was really happy. We were having a debate about the band (They were saying they were shit so I said that if they could name 5 GD songs they could say whatever they wanted they made me do the same with JLS - I did better than them, I got 3 and they got 2 AI and wmuwse, and only them because the main girl's bf had AI at home ) My teacher came round, heard us and said "Oi, Green Day are cool" turns to me "Dookie came out when I was about your age" It made me so happy. Then she showed my sketch pad to the class which made me even happier

I'm gonna stop talking now.

[cartoonjunkie]

Sorry about going off... I've been having a bit of a bad day...

I'd still like to draw if that's okay with you...?

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

Thanks, I've got it now I also decided that I'd change my sig so I don't look like a complete idiot anymore

Where can I see your writing? Do you have it floating around anywhere? I like reading other people's writing as it kind of shows you more about the person for one thing, and tbh I need all the help I can get especially with descriptions.

Most of my writing is a kind of spin on reality. It puts a kind of 'heightened version' (I don't think that makes sense ) of myself into situations that either relate to me or that I could see that character in. I never keep a diary but a few months ago I came back from Alton Towers where I'd told my ex that I still really liked him (I'd dumped him - I wasn't being extremely desperate) and I just spilled everything out. I still keep it because it's a nice reminder of how happy one person could make me and that I can actually be proud of myself for doing something.

I haven't updated my writing in a criminally long time.

The art teachers in my school are pretty much the only ones who do anything to even remotely help us with pretty much anything. They're seriously nice and the one I had last year liked GD so I was really happy. We were having a debate about the band (They were saying they were shit so I said that if they could name 5 GD songs they could say whatever they wanted they made me do the same with JLS - I did better than them, I got 3 and they got 2 AI and wmuwse, and only them because the main girl's bf had AI at home ) My teacher came round, heard us and said "Oi, Green Day are cool" turns to me "Dookie came out when I was about your age" It made me so happy. Then she showed my sketch pad to the class which made me even happier

I'm gonna stop talking now.

Oh lordy, I'm not as active of a writer as I used to be...some kinda current stuff here but I use it more for art: http://rabidballerina.deviantart.com/gallery/#Wordenings

That's pretty cool. Writting can be very liberating, and also a very good time marker. It's pretty darn close to a snapshot of your feelings and stuff at a time. I prefer musical snapshots myself nowadays though.

That's super awesome! My art teacher actually liked Green Day when Dookie came out cuz he was a kid at the right age, but he's not too crazy into them. But any teacher sharing an intrest like that is pretty exciting and definatly makes the class a little better. My other art teacher, for example, likes Rocky Horror Picture Show and plays the Time Warp for me some times.

[Dookie93]

I'm down this sounds rad!

[JohannaRaeRamone.]

Sorry about going off... I've been having a bit of a bad day...

I'd still like to draw if that's okay with you...?

Of course you can. It's okay, it happens.

[Guest]

Well we'll have to see about the cover, someone else might like it. Do you have a deviant art or art thread you can share? And yes, if your scanner can produce quality images that's great, so long as it can be saved as a .jpg or .bmp, but we'll worry about that later.

nawh sadly i dont, but i was just thinking i could be like designer for the rough draft and someone waaay more talented can make the final draft ? cos i really think the cover i did is radd ,

[CoreyGregory]

Well, if you don't feel confident enough in your artstic skills at the moment, you are always welcome on the brainstorming side.

Thank you, but what exactly are we brainstorming.(Specifics Please!)

[cartoonjunkie]

I'd like to try my hand at a few character designs...

If you guys can come up with a few details, I'd be happy to sketch them out