Green Day on the cover of Rolling Stone

[bloodymurderbitch]

4 hours ago, AmyxLongview said:

I hate to say this, but I'm sick of the rehab thing being rehashed over and over. There was already a whole RS issue dedicated to it when it first happened and now this. Seriously, I felt like this whole article was about Billie's addictions and the album was mentioned like twice as a footnote. 

I'm not. rehab, recovery - those are incredibly hard grueling things to go through. I'm happy he's being relatively open about it. There are lots of us that are also struggling with recovery of various addictions and mental illnesses .and it's incredible and encouraging knowing that someone who writes some of your favorite music is doing so much better - despite being in the public eye and even dealing with "fans" calling his breakdowns funny or putting all this blame on him because he was sick. I'm glad they aren't sweeping it under the rug, so to speak. without his rehab and being in recovery we wouldn't all be so excited about the release of a new album, we might be mourning the loss of green day.

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

4 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said:

It's not that I don't like the RS articles—it's Rolling Stone, and I'm a journalist, so of course I respect them and certainly agree that what they put out is far more professional than Kerrang's general fangirling. There's just always something about the tone of their articles that throws me off a bit. I don't know if they break up quotes strangely or what, but the guys never come across normally in their interviews to me. For as weirdly written as Kerrang article are, the guys just sound more like themselves in that interview than they did in this one. I honestly have no idea why I feel that way, but it just sounds a little...off.

Fair enough, now that you say it, I see it too. It's a bit too analytical. This type of interviews (I don't how is this called, it doesn't have the question/answer form but the answers are connected throught the text) is usually prone to turning out as more of a write-up than interview. It's harder to see it as something the person is saying...I had this feeling when I read this one. It felt a little unnatural.

3 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said:

That was a really good article.  However, there were a couple of points that seemed odd to me.  First, I thought Michael Mayer said that he never knew Billie had a problem.  In this article he said that there were moments.  The other was, how could the record company not know they were working on something until it was done?  They said they had some new songs at the Rock Hall induction ceremony and Billie was posting pictures from the studio as far back as January.     

I don't believe Warner didn't know. I just don't. But it sounded nice, didn't it? I didn't  analyze it much... I automatically put into the same category as the story about Cigarettes And Valentines being stolen  

My opinion is that Mayer just didn't want to fuel the shitstorm back then. I remember watching videos from that show in 2010. 12-year-old me was petrified. Of course assumptions I can make based on the little I know don't mean much but I doubt people who were there that night could think it was ok.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

40 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said:

Fair enough, now that you say it, I see it too. It's a bit too analytical. This type of interviews (I don't how is this called, it doesn't have the question/answer form but the answers are connected throught the text) is usually prone to turning out as more of a write-up than interview. It's harder to see it as something the person is saying...I had this feeling when I read this one. It felt a little unnatural.

I don't believe Warner didn't know. I just don't. But it sounded nice, didn't it? I didn't  analyze it much... I automatically put into the same category as the story about Cigarettes And Valentines being stolen  

My opinion is that Mayer just didn't want to fuel the shitstorm back then. I remember watching videos from that show in 2010. 12-year-old me was petrified. Of course assumptions I can make based on the little I know don't mean much but I doubt people who were there that night could think it was ok.

Warner may not have known but we certainly did

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

Just now, Tinkle said:

Warner may not have known but we certainly did

How likely is it that we knew they were recording and guessed the album title as early as in January and Warner was clueless?  

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Just now, Jane Lannister said:

How likely is it that we knew they were recording and guessed the album title as early as in January and Warner was clueless?  

High fives all round Id say

[DookieLukie]

I think that Warner knew they were working, but didn't know to what extent. I think they were working prior to us knowing as well, and Warner probably just assumed they'd make some announcment when a real albums (not just a collection of ideas) was forming. Rob Cavallo, President of Something at Warner, knew Billie had demoed some songs months ago. They knew, but they didn't make it official.

[PurpleIron1039]

Just finished reading the interview. Can't say that I agree with everything Billie says, but this article is fascinating and I'll definitely be putting it in my GD bookmark folder to read again later. My friend and I have made plans to get tickets to the Boston show together and this gets me even more pumped for that!

[Hero_Of_The_Hour]

3 hours ago, jumpsalty said:

Dude, what exactly is my problem with you? I'm obsessed with critiquing every last thing you say or do 😂  

Fixed that for you 

[Chin for a Day]

2 hours ago, Jane Lannister said:

 

My opinion is that Mayer just didn't want to fuel the shitstorm back then. I remember watching videos from that show in 2010. 12-year-old me was petrified. Of course assumptions I can make based on the little I know don't mean much but I doubt people who were there that night could think it was ok.

It sounds to me like Mayer just didn't have the balls to say anything.  Plus, he needed to work with him to get the show off the ground and the potential movie.  He didn't want to piss him off.

 

41 minutes ago, DookieLukie said:

I think that Warner knew they were working, but didn't know to what extent. I think they were working prior to us knowing as well, and Warner probably just assumed they'd make some announcment when a real albums (not just a collection of ideas) was forming. Rob Cavallo, President of Something at Warner, knew Billie had demoed some songs months ago. They knew, but they didn't make it official.

Rob Cavallo, President of Something at Warner is the Chairman of Warner Brothers records, basically the Jesus Christ at Warner.  I find it very hard to believe he didn't know.    

[UNICORN VOMIT]

45 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

It sounds to me like Mayer just didn't have the balls to say anything.  Plus, he needed to work with him to get the show off the ground and the potential movie.  He didn't want to piss him off.

 

Rob Cavallo, President of Something at Warner is the Chairman of Warner Brothers records, basically the Jesus Christ at Warner.  I find it very hard to believe he didn't know.    

I wouldn't get hung up on it too much - I mean its like going for the A -  you have to embellish ie lie.

[Chin for a Day]

2 minutes ago, Tinkle said:

I wouldn't get hung up on it too much - I mean its like going for the A -  you have to embellish ie lie.

That is a big freakin' lie.  And i"m not hung up on it, just stating my opinion.  Personally, I kind of liked the Jesus Christ reference for Rob Cavallo

[LaughingClock]

10 hours ago, Jake69 said:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/inside-green-days-revolutionary-rebirth-w438197

Nice. I know this album was gonna be a big one.

Buckle up and I am predicting a couple stadium shows for the states which generally would be a hard sell for them simply because of the number of shows and the geography of the US vs Europe. I bet they play a NY and possibly LA stadium show. Definitely NY I think.

[Chin for a Day]

2 minutes ago, crock6000 said:

Nice. I know this album was gonna be a big one.

Buckle up and I am predicting a couple stadium shows for the states which generally would be a hard sell for them simply because of the number of shows and the geography of the US vs Europe. I bet they play a NY and possibly LA stadium show. Definitely NY I think.

You are still my new favorite poster.  Thanks for sending the NY vibes.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

1 minute ago, crock6000 said:

Nice. I know this album was gonna be a big one.

. I bet they play a NY and possibly LA stadium show. Definitely NY I think.

@Scattered Wreck may be I will come to you - only if its warm though.

[Chin for a Day]

Just now, Tinkle said:

@Scattered Wreck may be I will come to you - only if its warm though.

That means you have from June through August by your metrics of warm.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Just now, Scattered Wreck said:

That means you have from June through August by your metrics of warm.

So its not happening this tour then

[Virtuous Xman]

1 hour ago, Scattered Wreck said:

Rob Cavallo, President of Something at Warner is the Chairman of Warner Brothers records, basically the Jesus Christ at Warner.  I find it very hard to believe he didn't know.    

Personally I believe Rob knew but he was the only one at the studio that knew and if anyone else knew.  They were meant to keep quiet about it so the band could make the album without deadlines or any type of pressure.  What the heck do they have to prove anymore than just make good music and keep it moving.  So I also agree with you mrs.

[LaughingClock]

I JUST READ the whole article and holy shit and oh my God! 

That made me laugh, cry, remember, love, hate and adore.   My life definitely parallels Billie's in a lot of ways.  No I'm not a rock star like he is but I've lived a life of excess and a career in a world where doing drugs and partying is the norm and not only is a method of being good, but also sometimes necessary at times.  

I don't do any drugs anymore but have most of my life.  I quit about the same time as Billie and for the exact same reasons but I didn't really know it until I read this article.  Also I never knew how for real Billie is about his sobriety as I do now after reading that. Only thing I still do is smoke weed and I'm stoned right now and for that reason it's hitting me harder but I had a daughter in 2012 and I was already becoming a better member of society during that time and when you all of a sudden have something that you love more than anything you could ever love and she/he relies on you for her existence, you change a lot about yourself (if you're a good person).

Billie is a great amazing person, Dirnt is someone that everyone that knows, loves and never have I heard a piece on GD capture that so well.  Tre's line about the bathroom mic got a belly laugh out of me.

But listening to Billie talk about his children and his old demons was therapeutic for me in so many way and I can't believe that even at my age (younger than Billie by about 7 years off hand), I can't believe that this band is still a part of my life as not just musicians but people helping me deal with who I am.  Never before have I been so connected to a band mentally.  My first show was with about 800 other people in 94 at the Tampa Fairgrounds and the day of the show, me and my then girlfriend met Mike and Tre at a music store I used to frequent and I was very young then and they were in a car with a girl and Mike and Tre were in the back with a boom box on his lap and wires where the radio should be. I remember thinking then, "I can't believe this huge band are traveling around like this".  Little did I know at that time, they were still poor as dirt.  But the story of the car breaking down on their way to Gillman's is amazing when thinking of that.  I just wish I was there for the Gilman years.  I was too young or I believe somehow I would have been as this band always comes calling me no mater how much space I think I've gained or separated from them by just getting older.  Nope, they are still the Kings as far as I am concerned and I love so many bands that are the opposite of Green Day.  I'm rambling but I don't know, I'm just so super fucking psyched and in tune with what I hope will be an amazing tour.

I remember feeling bad at the Pomona show (which was probably Billie's first ever sober show), and seeing how nervous he was that I wished he still did drugs.  That was a terrible thing to feel.  I just didn't understand the need to be sober as he had learned. Now I have (sorry ladies but all men take a lifetime to grow up. Some of us learn to hide it well but trust me, all men never grow up until in their 20s and 30s).  I finally have.

I am sorry for this rather self serving post, and possibly even rising to narcissistic post, but I wanted to get this out and I figured this place is anonymous and apro-pros as any so excuse the diatribe. However, this article has made me so ready for the tour.  It will be the first Green Day show I'll ever be at where I am not so wasted that it's insane, I'll be sober.

 

Billie and I.

[Teenage Lush]

4 minutes ago, crock6000 said:

 

this is so awesome and almost as much of an emotional read as the article itself was  really glad to see you posting around here again! 

[Stefano Bras]

Billie Joe Armstrong, my god does he ever age?, he must have found the fountain of yo- 

Oh... Damn.

[stories and songs]

@crock6000 I've been in and out of these boards for years and you probably don't even remember me, but some of my favorite times spent on this forum were chatting with you before, during, and after Trilogy Tour concerts we were stuck getting secondhand information from as we sat at our computers. I'm really, really happy for you. What a fantastic post. 

I'd like to think that both you and Billie will be enjoying yourselves extra on the latest tour—being part of such an amazing show sober can be pretty damn incredible, because you're able to clearly remember certain moments that will never leave you.

I was honestly overwhelmed when I read that Billie has been sober for four years. That's really amazing and I'm really, really proud of him. Dealing with anxiety and sleep issues...that's not easy on anyone, and learning new ways to cope must've been so challenging. I was always careful not to assume he'd kept his sobriety up—addicts slip up all the time. Sobriety is hard to maintain and that's completely understandable. But hearing how serious he knows his problems were, and how dedicated he is to doing better for himself and for his family—I'm just really proud. It sort of dawned on me recently that this band has slowly but surely become everything I'd hoped they were when I first fell in love with them as an idealistic tween. I was always fairly realistic about their flaws and issues, but...well, it's hard to describe. I feel like over time, as I've grown up and as they've grown up, we "fit" in ways maybe we never have before. I've now loved this band for half my life, which isn't nearly as long as some people here have. But it's wild to look back on everything—every time I fell in love with them all over again, every growing pain, every magical memory from a concert—and think that this is where we've ended up now, me and them. That 12 years brought us here, and they're still one of the best things that ever happened to me and one of the most significant impacts on who I am.

[LaughingClock]

25 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said:

@crock6000 I've been in and out of these boards for years and you probably don't even remember me, but some of my favorite times spent on this forum were chatting with you before, during, and after Trilogy Tour concerts we were stuck getting secondhand information from as we sat at our computers. I'm really, really happy for you. What a fantastic post. 

I'd like to think that both you and Billie will be enjoying yourselves extra on the latest tour—being part of such an amazing show sober can be pretty damn incredible, because you're able to clearly remember certain moments that will never leave you.

I was honestly overwhelmed when I read that Billie has been sober for four years. That's really amazing and I'm really, really proud of him. Dealing with anxiety and sleep issues...that's not easy on anyone, and learning new ways to cope must've been so challenging. I was always careful not to assume he'd kept his sobriety up—addicts slip up all the time. Sobriety is hard to maintain and that's completely understandable. But hearing how serious he knows his problems were, and how dedicated he is to doing better for himself and for his family—I'm just really proud. It sort of dawned on me recently that this band has slowly but surely become everything I'd hoped they were when I first fell in love with them as an idealistic tween. I was always fairly realistic about their flaws and issues, but...well, it's hard to describe. I feel like over time, as I've grown up and as they've grown up, we "fit" in ways maybe we never have before. I've now loved this band for half my life, which isn't nearly as long as some people here have. But it's wild to look back on everything—every time I fell in love with them all over again, every growing pain, every magical memory from a concert—and think that this is where we've ended up now, me and them. That 12 years brought us here, and they're still one of the best things that ever happened to me and one of the most significant impacts on who I am.

I might have tried, but I did not put it nearly as eloquent as you just did. Why am I so fucking emotional? Somebody's gonna come knocking for my man card soon!  Seriously beautiful and thank you Lush for your kind words.

I truly love you all.

[Haushinka!]

Well I haven't even read the article yet, but if the album is indeed "louder, faster, and angrier" like the cover says then i'll be as happy as this guy...

[tdlyon]

Wow, this article is fantastic. They really cover everything

[Thatsername]

Well this was really a great read. I think we all underestimated how serious Billies condition really was. And none of the other articles showed that as clearly as this one. I think it's very brave how open-heartedly they talk about that time. I'm just hoping that Billie' sobriety really is steady enough for the tour. I mean, it will be harder during the tour than at home, won't it? But it's great to see how all the bad events drew them even closer together, and I'm sure we will feel that spirit at the shows

Plus I don't understand your age discussion, I think they look better than ever. Yeah, there are crinkles, but that makes them look naturally. I would be confused if they still looked like 20-year-old boys. They look mature, like they have lived for a while, and maturity suits them. They've always looked a bit too shiny on many other pictures. Love the new natural look