Green Day on the cover of Rolling Stone

[CrimsonArk]

37 minutes ago, Mato said:

That's really weird, right? Considering they're all 44..

I know, but still. It's never really been this apparent now (look at the hands, the hands never lie!) . Plus his comment on bands/artists using contemporary producers being pussies feels a little old man yelling at cloud-esque. Kind of feels like a little needless shade throwing at Fallout Boy, I'm assuming, because otherwise I have no idea who else he could be referring to. 

I mean, don't get me wrong. They still look good for their age, it's just that they've always had this mystique about them seemingly appearing to be permanently stuck in their late 20s,  early 30s. Like they're actually starting to look like they could be dads and shit now lol

[stories and songs]

32 minutes ago, AmyxLongview said:

I hate to say this, but I'm sick of the rehab thing being rehashed over and over. There was already a whole RS issue dedicated to it when it first happened and now this. Seriously, I felt like this whole article was about Billie's addictions and the album was mentioned like twice as a footnote. 

I don't think it's being rehashed without reason (not trying to say you're wrong for thinking that, this is just my opinion of course). It was a big crossroads in the band's career, and in their lives. Billie is for all intents and purposes the ringleader, and his mindset seems to really impact the band at all levels. They're a bit different now, I think. In good ways. They've finally stopped to take a breath, stopped trying to prove to themselves that they could be bigger and better every time they made music. They wouldn't have been forced to reevaluate had Billie not gone to rehab, so I think it's often talked about just because it started a significant shift for them. 

Although I do laugh every time they unveil a new album, because they have this habit of saying, "Last time around we were like THAT, thank god we're not doing THAT again." It's the one thing about them that genuinely drives me crazy. They always look on their past so critically and imply that they're not going to be those people anymore, instead of just making peace with their different phases. But we all do that, I suppose—that "What was I thinking?" lens we put on our past. And honestly in retrospect, even with my extreme love and devotion to 21CB, I can see how things spiraled into strange territory in the shadow of American Idiot, and I think they're being honest in recognizing that, too. 

[Chin for a Day]

That was a really good article.  However, there were a couple of points that seemed odd to me.  First, I thought Michael Mayer said that he never knew Billie had a problem.  In this article he said that there were moments.  The other was, how could the record company not know they were working on something until it was done?  They said they had some new songs at the Rock Hall induction ceremony and Billie was posting pictures from the studio as far back as January.     

[Billie Hoe]

1 minute ago, Scattered Wreck said:

That was a really good article.  However, there were a couple of points that seemed odd to me.  First, I thought Michael Mayer said that he never knew Billie had a problem.  In this article he said that there were moments.  The other was, how could the record company not know they were working on something until it was done?  They said they had some new songs at the Rock Hall induction ceremony and Billie was posting pictures from the studio as far back as January.     

New songs doesn't necessarily mean they're working on an album. Billie writes new songs all the time. And posting videos from the studio could have just meant they're just doing it for fun or recording something for FBHT or with Joey and Jakob.

[stories and songs]

Michael Mayer probably thought Billie just had his rockstar diva moments at times, not realizing it was because of a larger issue. Although every account I've ever heard of his time on Broadway only talks about how down-to-earth and hardworking he was, so I have no idea what he's referring to. 

[Marki.]

I like that they describe "Somewhere Now" as a "Who-ish anthem", really excited to hear that song. 

[Semi-automatic lonely boy]

great article making me even more hopeful for a great fast paced album. maybe i should have avoided all that stuff to be more positively surprised when listening to the album for the first time.

the best thing they could do was to record all by themself, without telling anyone. it will show in the songs, i'm sure.

[AmyxLongview]

16 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said:

I don't think it's being rehashed without reason (not trying to say you're wrong for thinking that, this is just my opinion of course). It was a big crossroads in the band's career, and in their lives. Billie is for all intents and purposes the ringleader, and his mindset seems to really impact the band at all levels. They're a bit different now, I think. In good ways. They've finally stopped to take a breath, stopped trying to prove to themselves that they could be bigger and better every time they made music. They wouldn't have been forced to reevaluate had Billie not gone to rehab, so I think it's often talked about just because it started a significant shift for them. 

Although I do laugh every time they unveil a new album, because they have this habit of saying, "Last time around we were like THAT, thank god we're not doing THAT again." It's the one thing about them that genuinely drives me crazy. They always look on their past so critically and imply that they're not going to be those people anymore, instead of just making peace with their different phases. But we all do that, I suppose—that "What was I thinking?" lens we put on our past. And honestly in retrospect, even with my extreme love and devotion to 21CB, I can see how things spiraled into strange territory in the shadow of American Idiot, and I think they're being honest in recognizing that, too. 

Yeah I get that I also love 21CB so I'm glad they didn't say anything too bad about it... just that they lost their goofiness, which was true. But that album is still probably in my top 3!

[Chin for a Day]

13 minutes ago, Billie Hoe said:

New songs doesn't necessarily mean they're working on an album. Billie writes new songs all the time. And posting videos from the studio could have just meant they're just doing it for fun or recording something for FBHT or with Joey and Jakob.

Please, we figured out they were recording, there is no way the record company was that clueless.   And at the rock hall they said they had a few songs and were going to be working on a new album.  Plus, they were hashtagging #revrad since January

12 minutes ago, dolce_amore93 said:

Michael Mayer probably thought Billie just had his rockstar diva moments at times, not realizing it was because of a larger issue. Although every account I've ever heard of his time on Broadway only talks about how down-to-earth and hardworking he was, so I have no idea what he's referring to. 

That was my point, this is the frist time he said there were moments.  Everything I've read before this was that he was totally professional. 

[Billie Hoe]

1 minute ago, Scattered Wreck said:

Please, we figured out they were recording, there is no way the record company was that clueless.   And at the rock hall they said they had a few songs and were going to be working on a new album.  Plus, they were hashtagging #revrad since January

I guess they just didn't officially tell Warner then, if that's a thing.

[Chin for a Day]

Just now, Billie Hoe said:

I guess they just didn't officially tell Warner then, if that's a thing.

Maybe not, but Rob Cavallo is not stupid, I just can't believe he didn't know. 

[Billie Hoe]

1 minute ago, Scattered Wreck said:

Maybe not, but Rob Cavallo is not stupid, I just can't believe he didn't know. 

Maybe he did but not the big bosses. It's not like he had anything to say this time anyway  

[Chin for a Day]

1 minute ago, Billie Hoe said:

Maybe he did but not the big bosses. It's not like he had anything to say this time anyway  

He is the big boss, he is the head of Warner Brothers records 

[Billie Hoe]

4 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

He is the big boss, he is the head of Warner Brothers records 

He is? Seriously?  I thought he was the head of Reprise, which is a daughter company of Warner.

[solongfromthestars]

21 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

That was a really good article.  However, there were a couple of points that seemed odd to me.  First, I thought Michael Mayer said that he never knew Billie had a problem.  In this article he said that there were moments.  The other was, how could the record company not know they were working on something until it was done?  They said they had some new songs at the Rock Hall induction ceremony and Billie was posting pictures from the studio as far back as January.     

Yeah I'm not sure if I buy it that the record company didn't know anything at all. It just doesn't seem likely with the way the music industry works, and I'm sure people who leaked info were being shut down very quickly before the record was done.

Really interesting to hear about Somewhere Now though.

[Chin for a Day]

1 minute ago, Billie Hoe said:

He is? Seriously?  I thought he was the head of Reprise, which is a daughter company of Warner.

Reprise Records owned by Warner Brothers.  It is where most of the alternative type acts are.  Rob Cavallo is the chairman of Warner Brothers.

Interesting tidbit on Reprise, it was started by Frank Sinatra to give artists artistic freedom.

3 minutes ago, Maria Gloria said:

Yeah I'm not sure if I buy it that the record company didn't know anything at all. It just doesn't seem likely with the way the music industry works, and I'm sure people who leaked info were being shut down very quickly before the record was done.

Really interesting to hear about Somewhere Now though.

Agreed.  The Who is also one of my favorites, so I'm really looking forward to hearing Somewhere Now

[MaraGreenDay]

Man, this interview made me cry a lot! lol, It makes me feel really bad to know everything Billie was going through, seriously he didn't care if he died wtf   ( not gonna lie, I don't think I'm gonna enjoy listen to the trilogy that much anymore) and to think Green Day could just disappear!  But on the other side it makes me so happy to see them good and happy, together and with their personal lives, and now I know that I'm gonna enjoy RevRad even more than I thought  Ugh these guys are just so important to me, I really don't wanna live in a world where they're not together. I think I need to read this again and again lol.

Ps. I need a friend like Mike Dirnt. 

[Rumpelstiltskin2000]

4 minutes ago, Scattered Wreck said:

Interesting tidbit on Reprise, it was started by Frank Sinatra to give artists artistic freedom.

I never knew that - I've learnt something new today!

[Hero_Of_The_Hour]

2 hours ago, Scattered Wreck said:

That was a really good article.  However, there were a couple of points that seemed odd to me.  First, I thought Michael Mayer said that he never knew Billie had a problem.  In this article he said that there were moments.  The other was, how could the record company not know they were working on something until it was done?  They said they had some new songs at the Rock Hall induction ceremony and Billie was posting pictures from the studio as far back as January.     

 

Maybe Michael Mayer lied, or more politely deliberately neglected to tell the entire truth, before since Jesse Malin described Billie's time as St Jimmy as "method acting" too so clearly Mayer knew he was high during his time in the musical. I mean he told Rolling Stone he was having meltdowns and was a functioning drug and alcohol addict so he saw it first hand.

From RS 

Michael Mayer, who grew close to Armstrong as the director of the Broadway version of American Idiot, calls him "the most functioning addict I've ever seen in my life. It seemed to go in phases as opposed to being a constant thing. It was not like he was drunk or on drugs all the time. But he'd go into these meltdowns occasionally, and it became harder for him to recover."

 

And yeah it makes no sense that Cavallo gave statements about hearing five songs etc and all of us knew they were recording since January yet we are supposed to believe that the record company were oblivious?!  Haha. Yeah right! Billie was clearly talking a lot of shit in this article because that is certainly ridiculous. 

[stories and songs]

I suppose the label could've known they were in the studio, but didn't know what point in the recording process they were at/when they'd be finished. Just because they have a handful of songs doesn't mean they'll make it on the album. My guess is that it means they didn't give the studio a date of when it'd be finished until it was almost done. Considering the fact that they went back to work around two years ago, even giving them an indication in January that they'd be putting something out before the end of 2016 is likely short notice from a business perspective, no? If they spent a year and a half or so working on it just them without telling their label, that's definitely working without that added pressure. We know they're working a little more tightly this time and not hyping things up too far in advance, because just yesterday they were like, "Hey! Mini tour this month." 

I don't know anything about the process, but that's my guess. I have no reason to believe they'd lie about something rather trivial. And after Billie's comments about recording with Norah Jones with absolutely no pressure and enjoying it so much, I suspected Green Day would take a similar approach this time.

[jumpsalty]

10 minutes ago, Hero_Of_The_Hour said:

 

Maybe Michael Mayer lied, or more politely deliberately neglected to tell the entire truth, before since Jesse Malin described Billie's time as St Jimmy as "method acting" too so clearly Mayer knew he was high during his time in the musical. I mean he told Rolling Stone he was having meltdowns and was a functioning drug and alcohol addict so he saw it first hand.

From RS 

Michael Mayer, who grew close to Armstrong as the director of the Broadway version of American Idiot, calls him "the most functioning addict I've ever seen in my life. It seemed to go in phases as opposed to being a constant thing. It was not like he was drunk or on drugs all the time. But he'd go into these meltdowns occasionally, and it became harder for him to recover."

 

And yeah it makes no sense that Cavallo gave statements about hearing five songs etc and all of us knew they were recording since January yet we are supposed to believe that the record company were oblivious?!  Haha. Yeah right! Billie was clearly talking a lot of shit in this article because that is certainly ridiculous. 

Dude, what exactly is your problem with Billie? You're obsessed with critiquing every last thing he says or does 😂 Having songs doesn't equal an album, rob hearing songs doesn't equal record company knowing they're recording songs. If we've learned anything about green day, having songs means nothing. I find it perfectly plausible that the record label were none the wiser to them making this record until at least a good chunk into the process. No studio to pay for, no producer - easy peasy. 

[Billie Hoe]

12 minutes ago, jumpsalty said:

Dude, what exactly is your problem with Billie? You're obsessed with critiquing every last thing he says or does 😂 Having songs doesn't equal an album, rob hearing songs doesn't equal record company knowing they're recording songs. 

People can love an artist and not worship the ground they walk on or condone everything they do or say without criticism. Doesn't mean she has a problem with him. You have to admit, their statements are a bit contradictory or confusing considering what we know. Sometimes it's nice to admit that they talk bullshit from time to time  

They probably meant something different though and didn't put it in perfect words. I'm sure they didn't intentionally lie about it.

[Ric503]

I think this is my favourite magazine cover of Green Day

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

3 hours ago, dolce_amore93 said:

I love that they're finally looking their age. They all look fantastic on that cover. 

In all honesty that hurt like hell to read, and I wasn't expecting it. But I'm glad it's all out there. I'm glad they're ok sharing the shitty parts of their life with us, that they're honest and not sugarcoating. I take much more stock in what they're saying now about that time than what they were saying back in 2012/2013, when they were still going through it. This, as a reflection, means a lot more. To read about how they approach the creative process so much more healthily now and that they're all in a really good, happy place makes me so, so happy. 

All that said, I never 100% enjoy RS articles about them. IDK why. I feel like their writers always paint them a little strangely or something. Can't quite put my finger on it.

I absolutely agree on points one and two, however it's interesting what you say about the RS articles. They are usually my favorite about them. Kerrang gives me impression it was written by an excited fan who has just time-travelled from 2005, with their edited photoshoots, it looks like the magazine is trying too hard to make them look cool. On the other hand, RS seems to treat them more like a well-estabilished band, with less stylization. Reading their articles feels better for me, they are well-written and have less of the usual 100 times rehashed clichés. Idk, RS articles rarely are corny but I agree they differ from the approach most other magazines have.

[stories and songs]

It's not that I don't like the RS articles—it's Rolling Stone, and I'm a journalist, so of course I respect them and certainly agree that what they put out is far more professional than Kerrang's general fangirling. There's just always something about the tone of their articles that throws me off a bit. I don't know if they break up quotes strangely or what, but the guys never come across normally in their interviews to me. For as weirdly written as Kerrang article are, the guys just sound more like themselves in that interview than they did in this one. I honestly have no idea why I feel that way, but it just sounds a little...off.