MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 If SB peaks higher, then yeah, it's a success. I'm not discounting the song completely since it's to early for that. Its just that at this point, it's not a success. I entirely believe that an album's success is determined by it's sales/downloads/streams. With RevRad, the band had so much hype to make a mark. I think Bang Bang was a success and it's too early with SB, but it seems that it didn't do as much as was expected on here. My love for GD wanes depending on the material. I don't unconditionally love the band anymore. If an interview is off, I call it out; if an album undersells, I call it out; if an album is great, I call it out; etc. I don't rationalize their disappointments or their achievements, I call it as it is.
St. Jonny Posted December 23, 2016 Posted December 23, 2016 How old are you man? You picked a good name, confused makes sense!
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 26 An album's success is measured by sales, digital sales, and streams - there's no other way. The band, record label, music outlets, etc. need to recoup their investments (recording, distributing, etc.). How much money is made after all the recoupment is measured. You can argue all you want that "it doesn't matter how much it sells". "i still liked it", etc. but if GD sells less and less, Reprise may eventually drop them and they'll resort to being independent. You can't let your personal feelings get in the way. I like RevRad. I loved Bang Bang, RevRad, Forever Now, and think SB is okayish. That being said, it rightfully sold as much as it did. The album didn't break any ground, wasn't that good, and seemed pale in comparison to a lot of recent albums. Take Drake and Taylor Swift, even though I'm not a fan of their music, I can tell how much work went into their albums. The singers gave it their all and tried to make an epic statement. RevRad had the hype to do so, but it just sank - they really could have left a dent if the album was better. GD has the potential to do something great. Billie's writing, with RevRad and Forever Now, show this guy still has the chops and hasn't let age get him down. It's just after AI, they release albums with a lot of filler material. Up to AI, there was a consistency in the albums that isn't there anymore. I mean, they still make gems but they're in between dirt. With that being said, I'm not counting GD out of the race but they're in a trying position right now where they will be losing more and more sales. The band needs to either get back to their roots, or up their quality.
St. Jonny Posted December 24, 2016 Posted December 24, 2016 It has only been out 2 and half months, hasn't been given the best opportunity to sell. RevRad is just as good as I expected it to be. Too many people are expecting another AI, but it has been done. The fact that they made an album ten years after that actually lived up to Dookie is crazy given how amazing Dookie is. I don't want either album to come out again, it's been done. Everything is always compared to AI now, because it has become the measuring stick for their music. Which is kind of dumb. It's not like AC/DC could ever recreate a Highway To Hell, or a Back In Black, but all their albums are fucking awesome!! I really don't think these later albums have a lot of "filler", some songs are just way better than others, simple as that. Gems in between dirt? That's funny because nobody here can write better songs. I'm sure they will believe they can, but people are also extremely full of themselves.
MaraGreenDay Posted December 25, 2016 Posted December 25, 2016 On 24/12/2016 at 10:01 AM, St. Jonny said: It has only been out 2 and half months, hasn't been given the best opportunity to sell. RevRad is just as good as I expected it to be. Too many people are expecting another AI, but it has been done. The fact that they made an album ten years after that actually lived up to Dookie is crazy given how amazing Dookie is. I don't want either album to come out again, it's been done. Everything is always compared to AI now, because it has become the measuring stick for their music. Which is kind of dumb. It's not like AC/DC could ever recreate a Highway To Hell, or a Back In Black, but all their albums are fucking awesome!! I really don't think these later albums have a lot of "filler", some songs are just way better than others, simple as that. Gems in between dirt? That's funny because nobody here can write better songs. I'm sure they will believe they can, but people are also extremely full of themselves. I think I love you
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 28, 2016 Posted December 28, 2016 Still Breathing US Rock Airplay - No. 2 from No. 3 last week US Alternative Songs - No. 3 from No. 4 last week US Mainstream Songs - No. 6 (same as last week) Revolution Radio is at No. 144 on the Billboard 200, up from last week's position of 177
Dakke Posted December 28, 2016 Author Posted December 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: Still Breathing US Rock Airplay - No. 2 from No. 3 last week US Alternative Songs - No. 3 from No. 4 last week US Mainstream Songs - No. 6 (same as last week) Revolution Radio is at No. 144 on the Billboard 200, up from last week's position of 177 Still climbin' those charts. The top spot might not even be too much of a stretch since nothing significant will be released this Friday.
TimmyChunks Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 For what it's worth, my dad actually still listens to the radio (yes, and old school radio listener) and he said that Still Breathing is all over rock radio here in the northeast U.S. He usually has a better idea of what's going on in music than I do, and for good reason- I am part of the Spotify/ Pandora/ got my iTunes in the car crowd. But he listens to the radio and hears it constantly. Believe me, it's doing well on the airwaves, even if the airwaves ain't what they used to be. And honestly, a poster on this thread is criticizing Still Breathing? I could give a rat's arse how it's doing on the charts, it's a great song and we're lucky to hear it and better for it. But I get it- this thread is about the charts. And it seems to be doing well by all measurables. So it's a success, and we'll just wait and see exactly how much of a success it becomes. But by no means is this single a failure.
End Of The World Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Great! #3 on the alternative chart... Mediabase charted it #4 this week. Better. Now I am asking you guys: in your opinion how long will it take to reach no. 1 (if so)?
St. Jonny Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Not too long if it's in the top 5 now! I don't honestly care all that much because the song and album are already gold in my mind!
RedundantIdiot Posted December 29, 2016 Posted December 29, 2016 Revolution Radio end of year charts positions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_Radio It's worth pointing out that most of the artists above GD are either Austrian/ Belgian artists, or artists that released their albums earlier in the year. I don't expect Rev Rad to be high up many end of year charts due to Rev Rad coming out in October Austria: #69 best selling album of 2016 Belgium (Flanders); #89 Belgium (Wallonia): #144
tomdsjames Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 Number 94 on year end charts in the UK. I'm interested to see where it will finish next year in the UK after they've played their shows over here. American Idiot actually charted higher in 2005 than it did in 2004 following their massive Milton Keynes shows and the success of Boulevard of Broken Dreams at the start of 2005. Hopefully they'll play Still Breathing on a few TV shows while they're over here and see a similar bump in sales with RevRad.
End Of The World Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, tomdsjames said: Hopefully they'll play Still Breathing on a few TV shows Am I the only one who thinks GD aren't giving a shit about SB? They played it once or twice in TV shows. It's actually doing well on the charts but it could do even better if GD promoted it a little more.
End Of The World Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 According to my calculations (based on percentages increase and decrease in spins), Still Breathing will reach #2 on the Alternative chart in 1/2 weeks and #1 in 3/4 weeks. Hopefully, and, I say, Hopefully, at the end of January we will see it at the top.
RedundantIdiot Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, End Of The World said: Am I the only one who thinks GD aren't giving a shit about SB? They played it once or twice in TV shows. It's actually doing well on the charts but it could do even better if GD promoted it a little more. I think they do give a shit about the song, but I think that they could've played it more. They haven't played it as much as Bang Bang, which is disappointing because SB has the potential to be huge. I'm surprised that its doing as well as it is in the charts given the few live performances they've given it so far. 2 hours ago, tomdsjames said: Hopefully they'll play Still Breathing on a few TV shows while they're over here and see a similar bump in sales with RevRad. After their 3 gigs in the UK in February they've got 3 weeks off before the US/Canada tour starts. Hopefully, they will appear on a few shows here during that time period. I'm surprised they didn't appear on TV in the UK when they were here in November- they did a load of radio shows and magazine interviews, but surprisingly, no TV shows.
Thatsername Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 1 hour ago, End Of The World said: Am I the only one who thinks GD aren't giving a shit about SB? They played it once or twice in TV shows. It's actually doing well on the charts but it could do even better if GD promoted it a little more. I don't think they give a shit about it, maybe it's the opposite. It's such a personal, intimate song, maybe they still feel a little uncomfortable playing it because they care so much about it... Billie seemed a bit nervous at the one TV performance when they played it. Don't know, maybe I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure we will see (TV-)performances of SB in the future and it has to be on the setlist for their European tour, too! I'll be pissed as hell if they don't play it at the shows I'm going to.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted January 1, 2017 Posted January 1, 2017 24 minutes ago, MMwhatsername said: I don't think they give a shit about it, maybe it's the opposite. It's such a personal, intimate song, maybe they still feel a little uncomfortable playing it because they care so much about it... Billie seemed a bit nervous at the one TV performance when they played it. Don't know, maybe I'm wrong. But I'm pretty sure we will see (TV-)performances of SB in the future and it has to be on the setlist for their European tour, too! I'll be pissed as hell if they don't play it at the shows I'm going to. They most definitely will play it. 1 hour ago, End Of The World said: Am I the only one who thinks GD aren't giving a shit about SB? They played it once or twice in TV shows. It's actually doing well on the charts but it could do even better if GD promoted it a little more. BB caught more attention thanks to current state of affairs I guess. Also it is more likely to appeal to rock fans which is the audience they are primarily targeting this time around.
luketrebilliemike Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 19 hours ago, Whatsername_123 said: I think they do give a shit about the song, but I think that they could've played it more. They haven't played it as much as Bang Bang, which is disappointing because SB has the potential to be huge. I'm surprised that its doing as well as it is in the charts given the few live performances they've given it so far. After their 3 gigs in the UK in February they've got 3 weeks off before the US/Canada tour starts. Hopefully, they will appear on a few shows here during that time period. I'm surprised they didn't appear on TV in the UK when they were here in November- they did a load of radio shows and magazine interviews, but surprisingly, no TV shows. They went on channel 4 news and kerrang tv if I remeber
RedundantIdiot Posted January 2, 2017 Posted January 2, 2017 Revolution Radio #71 in the Swiss end of year album chart. Obviously almost all of the albums above it are either Swiss artists, German speaking artists or albums that were released earlier in the year.
Dakke Posted January 2, 2017 Author Posted January 2, 2017 Top 100 is very solid for a rock album, particularly one that was released in the fall. Regarding Still Breathing, yes, they should have played it more prominently, but with a tour in Europa kicking off next week they have a good opportunity to make some promotion for Still Breathing in Europe before returning to the US for the March arena tour. It doesn't matter which song reaches the apex, as long as one does.
End Of The World Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Finally Still Breathing charted #1 on the Rock Airplay chart! http://www.billboard.com/charts/rock-airplay Still #3 on the Alternative chart and on the Canadian Rock one, and it's (as usual) the greatest gainer of the week. I don't understand why there is this discrepancy between Mediabase (that put SB #4) and Billboard (#3). Anyway it means that SB will take less time to (eventually) reach #1. If so, I think we all can define it a success. #6 on the Mainstream Rock chart and down at #17 on the Hot Rock chart.
St. Jonny Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Hell yeah!! They did it, not surprised, it is an amazing single. Let's see how long she stays!
End Of The World Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 24 minutes ago, St. Jonny said: Hell yeah!! They did it, not surprised, it is an amazing single. Let's see how long she stays! That would be great if it topped the Alternative chart too. SB absolutely deserves it.
Christian's Inferno! Posted January 4, 2017 Posted January 4, 2017 Woo! Great news. It definitely deserves it I doubt it'll top the Mainstream Rock Chart since it's been at No. 6 the last 3 weeks. Hopefully it will top the Alternative chart though. I'm still hopeful it'll enter the Hot 100 or at least Bubbling Under the Hot 100 chart EDIT: On the Billboard 200, RevRad is at 141, up from 144 last week. It is also back on the Top Album Sales chart at No. 75 after not being on the chart for the last 3 weeks
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