tresexy101 Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Rock on. I think we need to stay on topic. So I'm going to stop the back and forth with you. I love you, though.
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 We don't know his frame of mind during any recording.
Eric Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jake69 said: Not really..... It seems like every single time someone on here criticizes a GD song you get very pissy for no reason. People have different opinions. Don't take it so to heart. I don't take it to heart, if I really did I would be logged on all day bitching about the stuff being said. I see however feeding into Steven and crying about what he says whether you think he is trolling or not so don't even give me this opinion crap. I still fail to see the generic lyrics but whatever Mr. Jake
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 So, is RevRad doing mediocre or well at this point?
Eric Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: So, is RevRad doing mediocre or well at this point? Doing so mediocre , because it's generic !
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, Eric said: I guess it's generic now! So, now GD's copying other artists' sales to stay relevant. jk
End Of The World Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 3 hours ago, MikeDirntConfused said: So, is RevRad doing mediocre or well at this point? Glad to see the discussion over. RevRad as an album is doing pretty mediocre. At this point, Uno had already been certified Gold in Italy and its sales are lower. If you're talking about singles, BB and SB, in the alternative chart, peaked #1 and #4 (so far). That's pretty good.
DeJennsitized Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 7 hours ago, Eric said: Or should of said you guys have such extreme standards when it comes to music lol there's nothing wrong with having "extreme standards". Jeez, people can think whatever they want about SB. It doesn't affect anyone else's opinion on it. If someone, god forbid, has standards about the music they listen to then just let them? idk just a thought Anyway, hope Still Breathing does well. I agree that it's no BOBD but I like it a lot more than WMUWSE.
UNICORN VOMIT Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, Jenn. said: Anyway, hope Still Breathing does well. I agree that it's no BOBD but I like it a lot more than WMUWSE. ☹️ 2 for 2
DeJennsitized Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, Tinkle said: ☹️ 2 for 2
End Of The World Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Jenn. said: Anyway, hope Still Breathing does well. I agree that it's no BOBD but I like it a lot more than WMUWSE. If Still Breathing was released in 2005, when GD were at their peak, I'm sure it would have charted on the Top 10 of the singles chart. Too bad we're in 2016, and no one gives a shit about Punk Rock and similar things. No one but us.
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 39 minutes ago, End Of The World said: If Still Breathing was released in 2005, when GD were at their peak, I'm sure it would have charted on the Top 10 of the singles chart. Too bad we're in 2016, and no one gives a shit about Punk Rock and similar things. No one but us. The same thing could've been said about most of the songs from 21CB that weren't singles or successful singles, or about songs from the trilogy like Oh Love or 99 Revolutiions. If you replaced one song from AI with one of those songs, there would be more people saying it's brilliant and they would've been successful
Second favourite son Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Still Breathing's doing pretty well, and it was still climbing the last time I checked. These things take time, BOBD was released as a single in Nov '04 and only peaked (at 2) on the Hot 100 on March 5th 2005 - and AI was released even earlier, in September. That's almost 6 months between album release and peak chart position - RevRad hasn't even been out for 3 months yet, there's still a lot of time left for SB to chart well. Obviously the music industry has changed massively since then, but things aren't looking bad at all.
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 9 hours ago, End Of The World said: Glad to see the discussion over. RevRad as an album is doing pretty mediocre. At this point, Uno had already been certified Gold in Italy and its sales are lower. If you're talking about singles, BB and SB, in the alternative chart, peaked #1 and #4 (so far). That's pretty good. In the end, its the album sales that matter. People on this forum can say "it's relevant to me", "I like it", or "numbers don't really matter anymore for GD" as much as they like, but a band's position is determined by the amount of albums sold/music downloads. GD's mediocre at this point like stale bread. If the album was as stellar as people on here think, then it would still sell well - quality always sells.
St. Jonny Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Not if people choose to just not listen to it which is usually the case. Green Day fans care, who else would? People buy and listen to the bands they like, the album sales aren't low because the album isn't good enough, it's because we are living in the age of the anti-music robotic tide and most people are too cheap to buy music, let alone give it the time to understand it and let it grow on them. Nobody who is not a Green Day fan are going to sit and listen to the album for what it is, so they certainly won't buy it either. It is like this for every band, they are only relevant to those who actually listen to them.
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 A lot of bands get hype to this day, and are actively promoted. If RevRad sold well, people would brag about how GD is still relevant, how age doesn't matter, quality sells, how many grammy's they would win, etc. When the band sells poorly, it's always music doesn't sell well anymore, GD is old, rock is dying, etc. People on here will always have an excuse to save GD.
End Of The World Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: In the end, its the album sales that matter. People on this forum can say "it's relevant to me", "I like it", or "numbers don't really matter anymore for GD" as much as they like, but a band's position is determined by the amount of albums sold/music downloads. GD's mediocre at this point like stale bread. If the album was as stellar as people on here think, then it would still sell well - quality always sells. I couldn't disagre with you more. IMO nowadays what makes a band/singer relevant is no longer the album, but the single. Look at the Chainsmokers, for example: singles like don't let me down and closer have sold like 9 million copies togheter, while their albums don't have even one certification. (I don't like the Chainsmokers).
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, End Of The World said: I couldn't disagre with you more. IMO nowadays what makes a band/singer relevant is no longer the album, but the single. Look at the Chainsmokers, for example: singles like don't let me down and closer have sold like 9 million copies togheter, while their albums don't have even one certification. (I don't like the Chainsmokers). Ok, but it's more likely that the Chainsmokers album/singles were much, much better than RevRad. People on here will blame the decline of rock and GD's age for RevRad's lackluster sales. If RevRad sold well, then people on here would boast about how none of that matters.
Thatsername Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 29 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: If the album was as stellar as people on here think, then it would still sell well - quality always sells. What a wonderful world this would be! If quality was all that matters, Justin Bieber would be a flop. Cool! No way man, you really can't say every album that doesn't sell so well is bad quality. That's just nonsense. There is so much great music out there that never got the attention and appreciation it deserves. Doesn't mean it's all shit.
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 Just now, MMwhatsername said: What a wonderful world this would be! If quality was all that matters, Justin Bieber would be a flop. Cool! No way man, you really can't say every album that doesn't sell so well is bad quality. That's just nonsense. There is so much great music out there that never got the attention and appreciation it deserves. Doesn't mean it's all shit. But GD's a known name. The other bands may be under the radar, so to speak. I remember the hype RevRed had, and it was pretty big. The quick decline illustrated that it wasn't as good as people were expecting it to be.
End Of The World Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 52 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: Ok, but it's more likely that the Chainsmokers album/singles were much, much better than RevRad. People on here will blame the decline of rock and GD's age for RevRad's lackluster sales. If RevRad sold well, then people on here would boast about how none of that matters. "Oh I, don't wanna think about Chainsmokers, don't wanna think about it oooh, it doesn't matter anyway." Sorry I had to ahah. Seriously, I hate Closer. That song is no way better than ANY song on RevRad. It's just that people like it, and that's a big difference. If GD just wanted to sell they could have made a fucking annoying riff that stucks in your head, like that song's one. But they didn't. Decisions like this make GD a high quality band. Just my opinion, as usual.
MikeDirntConfused Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, End Of The World said: "Oh I, don't wanna think about Chainsmokers, don't wanna think about it oooh, it doesn't matter anyway." Sorry I had to ahah. Seriously, I hate Closer. That song is no way better than ANY song on RevRad. It's just that people like it, and that's a big difference. If GD just wanted to sell they could have made a fucking annoying riff that stucks in your head, like that song's one. But they didn't. Decisions like this make GD a high quality band. Just my opinion, as usual. A hit isn't made that easily or else everyone would be successful. GD tried that with SB and kind of failed. RevRad's sales numbers show it's reception to the public.
DeJennsitized Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 4 hours ago, MikeDirntConfused said: In the end, its the album sales that matter. People on this forum can say "it's relevant to me", "I like it", or "numbers don't really matter anymore for GD" as much as they like, but a band's position is determined by the amount of albums sold/music downloads. GD's mediocre at this point like stale bread. If the album was as stellar as people on here think, then it would still sell well - quality always sells. Do you honestly believe that, in this day and age? In the modern music era, your music only sells if memes can be made out of you. Sure, people might eventually buy stuff if they like it, but they have to have a reason to check it out first. Celebs with "interesting" personal lives sell better than others. Plus the number of sales for albums in general have declined, because why buy something when you can rip it from youtube or stream it on spotify?
End Of The World Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 43 minutes ago, MikeDirntConfused said: A hit isn't made that easily or else everyone would be successful. GD tried that with SB and kind of failed. RevRad's sales numbers show it's reception to the public. Now I'm asking myself, do you like GD? Because it seems you don't. I can understand the negativism, but... I don't know. Alright, anyway GD didn't fail with SB. It's doing well on the US charts and I'm still hopeful it to do even better. If you think they're not good, or their "relevance" influences you, well, just don't listen to them. I don't get the point.
Christian's Inferno! Posted December 22, 2016 Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, MikeDirntConfused said: A hit isn't made that easily or else everyone would be successful. GD tried that with SB and kind of failed. RevRad's sales numbers show it's reception to the public. Clearly SB hasn't reached its peak yet as it's still rising in the charts. I don't see SB as a failure. It's their most successful non-lead single since 21 Guns
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