HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 20 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: But with every other setup it sounds noisy and too loud. So much buzzing and clipping on tracks. The fact that you have to change the volume during the songs to hear them properly doesn't help the album either. When it comes to mastering they couldn't do a worse job. I never needed to change the volume while listening to the record. And I listened to it through ear pods, computer speakers, analog and digital sound system.
Steven Seagull Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, J a c said: I never needed to change the volume while listening to the record. And I listened to it through ear pods, computer speakers, analog and digital sound system. Somwhere Now, Bang Bang, Outlaws, Too Dumb Too Die all these songs have intros you can barely hear on normal volume. But if you increase the volume you will hurt your ears when the guitars kick in.
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Just now, Steven Seagull said: Somwhere Now, Bang Bang, Outlaws, Too Dumb Too Die all these songs have intros you can barely hear on normal volume. But if you increase the volume you will hurt your ears when the guitars kick in. I think you should seriously question the quality of your headset/speakers, because I never had these issues. Always played the songs at medium-high/high volume.
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: Somwhere Now, Bang Bang, Outlaws, Too Dumb Too Die all these songs have intros you can barely hear on normal volume. But if you increase the volume you will hurt your ears when the guitars kick in. 3 minutes ago, J a c said: I think you should seriously question the quality of your headset/speakers, because I never had these issues. Always played the songs at medium-high/high volume. I'd question the quality of his ears
Alan86 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I'd question the quality of his ears
Steven Seagull Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, J a c said: I think you should seriously question the quality of your headset/speakers, because I never had these issues. Always played the songs at medium-high/high volume. Loudness war doesn't lie. Throw those songs in audacity and look at all that clipping.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, MysticManiac said: I'd question the quality of his ears I have a similar problem. It took me a while to figure out the right volume to play it. It's either very silent or very loud, I could imagine better dynamics.
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 8 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: Loudness war doesn't lie. Throw those songs in audacity and look at all that clipping. Loudness war and what you're describing are not the same thing.
DeJennsitized Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: Loudness war doesn't lie. Throw those songs in audacity and look at all that clipping. How have you lasted so long on this forum
That Dude Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Steven Seagull said: But with every other setup it sounds noisy and too loud. So much buzzing and clipping on tracks. The fact that you have to change the volume during the songs to hear them properly doesn't help the album either. When it comes to mastering they couldn't do a worse job. I do hear the buzzing and clipping, especially on Still Breathing.
Steven Seagull Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, J a c said: Loudness war and what you're describing are not the same thing. It's actually a great indicator that proves just that. The guitar intro in Somwhere Now is so quiet compared to the rest of the song. This is how Bang Bang looks: Troubled Times sounds better because the verse is louder. So even though the chorus is too loud it's still better to listen the song like that. 1 minute ago, thatdude03 said: I do hear the buzzing and clipping, especially on Still Breathing. Bouncing Off The Wall at 1:34, that's just too much
That Dude Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 6:56 AM, Scaramimi said: Nope....i looked into my pre order of revrad....and in my list of things in my xd said.... Download Bang Bang Digital Single Download Revolution Radio Digital Single Download Still Breathing Digital Single.... Sorry they're singles They are digital singles and all three are charting, but as far as "official singles", they might pick some others to have music videos, etc. Remember, nothing is official until Wikipedia says so. 4 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: It's actually a great indicator that proves just that. The guitar intro in Somwhere Now is so quiet compared to the rest of the song. This is how Bang Bang looks: Troubled Times sounds better because the verse is louder. So even though the chorus is too loud it's still better to listen the song like that. Bouncing Off The Wall at 1:34, that's just too much I usually skip bouncing because of the whole Missing S debacle so I haven't noticed. I'm missing S. I'm missing S. It's not around and the titles a complete disaster. I'm missing S.
Eric Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, thatdude03 said: They are digital singles and all three are charting, but as far as "official singles", they might pick some others to have music videos, etc. Remember, nothing is official until Wikipedia says so. I usually skip bouncing because of the whole Missing S debacle so I haven't noticed. I'm missing S. I'm missing S. It's not around and the titles a complete disaster. I'm missing S. How are these not official singles? This is kind of how singles are release nowadays for the people out of the times. Not everything has to have a music video.
HAPPY ZOMBIE UNICORN Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 19 minutes ago, Steven Seagull said: It's actually a great indicator that proves just that. The guitar intro in Somwhere Now is so quiet compared to the rest of the song. This is how Bang Bang looks: Troubled Times sounds better because the verse is louder. So even though the chorus is too loud it's still better to listen the song like that. Bouncing Off The Wall at 1:34, that's just too much Still, the effects you're describing are not connected to loudness war. Loudness war supposedly reduce the dynamic range, everything sounds at the same level, it's supposedly hard to distinguish the loudest part of a song from the lowest one. Or, supposedly, it creates distortion in the sound. What you're describing is something else, a volume of these tracks too low in the intro. Something that honestly I never experienced, neither with headset, computer speaker or sound systems.
Platypus2000 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Yo, I'm gonna sound like an idiot but with the lyric book I get the actual physical CD as well as the digital one yeah?
Eric Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 9 minutes ago, Platypus2000 said: Yo, I'm gonna sound like an idiot but with the lyric book I get the actual physical CD as well as the digital one yeah? Yup. Digital one should be available right away Thursday night like all the other singles have been released.
Platypus2000 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Does anyone know if the black checker cat hoodie will be available on the GD store too btw? I don't like the yellowy one
Strychnine. Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 18 hours ago, desertrose said: Hopefully he'll post some pictures of the booklet and actual CD.
DookieLukie Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I agree with Seagull to some extent on the topic of mastering. Volume levels are all over the place on this. It's not a loudness war issue, it's just poor balance. On Outlaws, the verses are hard to hear at medI'm volume, but you have to turn it down for the chorus. Same goes for Bang Bang with its intro. However, I think Somewhere Now and Too Dumb to Die handled volume changes well. So there's a lot of inconsistency.
Spike Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 I'm actually with Seagull and Lukie on this. And regardless, if you think all that clipping is a good thing, or not a direct result of the loudness war, check yo'self. You can expect some clipping in pretty much all mainstream music nowadays, but big chunks of red like in Seagull's screenshot are bad. Green Day are actually a really dynamic band, and it's a shame we're not being allowed to hear that these days. That said, still waiting for the official release.
Christian's Inferno! Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 Honestly I don't understand the Loudness War at all. If I listen to a remastered version of a song, it sounds exactly the same to me as the regular album version. I'm not saying it's not a thing, I'm just saying it doesn't really feel like it makes much difference to the quality of the music to me
moonj17 Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, Platypus2000 said: Does anyone know if the black checker cat hoodie will be available on the GD store too btw? I don't like the yellowy one I don't know, but I agree... The yellow one looks like mustard vomit. Why would they choose that color???
DookieLukie Posted October 4, 2016 Posted October 4, 2016 While I agree with Seagull and Spike that the mastering isn't great, I still really love the record and think that it still has a very raw feel to it. The mastering doesn't bug me a ton because I'm not really an audiophile (HDtracks is no different to me, for example).
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