Fuzz Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, Kyle Serlington said: does anyone know what green day's contract with the label is like? i feel like i remember hearing that the original contract back in the 90's was a 5 album deal, which means it would have ended after American Idiot. I wonder how many albums they have left on their contract. at this point i'm wondering if once their contract is fulfilled they just start putting stuff out on Adeline and do everything on their own terms. I don't think anyone really knows the deal anymore. I am curious about it as well though.
Sixtrix Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, JJ1964 said: When a band has made a label as much money as Green Day has, the label gives alot of concessions and leeway to the band. As Tim said, they are already doing things on their own terms. They have earned the right. Not every label though, it all depends on the contract an artist signs at a label
WhiteTim Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, Kyle Serlington said: every little thing though? you don't think the label pressures them for hits? if it weren't for pressure from the label then American Idiot may have never happened after that whole Cigarettes and Valentines thing. and weren't they under a lot of pressure after Warning had lackluster sales? As someone who used to work for Atlantic (owned by Warner) I can say the label doesn't make GD (or any artist) do any song they don't want to do as for GD goes they've always been given free reign at Warner never had a deadline as far as you have to have an album every year and so forth the songs and albums are all GD choices
Siddharth_471 Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 I want Rob Cavallo to produce it. He's more like a member than a professional producer. It was no one but him who motivated them about their true potential which resulted into AI.
WhiteTim Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Sixtrix said: Not every label though, it all depends on the contract an artist signs at a label Yeah when a band or artist has as much sales and influence labels will overlook one or two "flops" as long as they recoup the money spent escp now that most artists are on 360 deals and labels now get tour and merch profits 5 minutes ago, Fuzz said: I don't think anyone really knows the deal anymore. I am curious about it as well though. In GW or one of the magazine interviews he did for the trilogy he did mention the contract was up and that they were gonna start doing a 1 album extensions from then on
Chin for a Day Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, Sixtrix said: Not every label though, it all depends on the contract an artist signs at a label That is true, but an established artist like Green Day would have creative control. 6 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said: I want Rob Cavallo to produce it. He's more like a member than a professional producer. It was no one but him who motivated them about their true potential which resulted into AI. You have enough Rob Carvallo produced albums to choose from. It is time for a new look.
Sixtrix Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: In GW or one of the magazine interviews he did for the trilogy he did mention the contract was up and that they were gonna start doing a 1 album extensions from then on Does that mean the contract can be ended after each new album they release?
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 No that means it wasn't extended for a given number of albums as before but they make individual contracts for each following album. So they're always obliged to make only one album.
Chin for a Day Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, Sixtrix said: Does that mean the contract can be ended after each new album they release? Of course, just like any contract. Once that contract is fulfilled it can be extended or renewed. But, think of it this way, put the Trilogy aside, there were alot of external factors with that. If you had to bet, the chances are really good that a GD album is going to make money, if marketed properly. The record company knows that and they are going to want to keep them. I wouldn't doubt that the one album deal is at GD's request, not the record label, but I don't know that for sure, just a guess.
inthehallwaynow Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 I agree passing on Rob could be a good thing a new perspective would definitely change things up. Of course whether its in a good way or bad way thats unknown haha but I think Rob is such a fan of them its hard for him to be critical now. (thats just my opinion though) who knows how he actually functions.
Chin for a Day Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, inthehallwaynow said: I agree passing on Rob could be a good thing a new perspective would definitely change things up. Of course whether its in a good way or bad way thats unkown haha but I think Rob is such a fan of them its hard for him to be critical now. (thats just my opinion though) who knows how he actually functions. Well stated. I also think he is too close to them to critical when he needs to be. I just thought of a good example of the record label letting them do their thing, Foreverly. Who would have ever thought that Billie Joe Armstrong and Norah Jones doing a country album would work so well?
Siddharth_471 Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 42 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: You have enough Rob Carvallo produced albums to choose from. It is time for a new look. I don't think to have a new look its compulsory to change the producer, Green Day have full control over their creativity for their music and who really gives a toss? I want the new album to leave us unable to compare it with any of their previous works. In short, another overproduced stuff SIMPLY THEIR BEST RECORD \m/
Chin for a Day Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said: I don't think to have a new look its compulsory to change the producer, Green Day have full control over their creativity for their music and who really gives a toss? I want the new album to leave us unable to compare it with any of their previous works. In short, another overproduced stuff SIMPLY THEIR BEST RECORD \m/ See the previous posts, Matt stated it very well. Rob is too close to them to be objective. AT least that is how I feel. And yes, I do give a toss who the producer is. That is a very, very important part of the album. A bad producer can take a great song and make it shit.
Sanity Loan Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 The only thing I know about number of albums in the contract is that the trilogy counted as one album.
Siddharth_471 Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, WhiteTim said: id take a overproduced album actually 3 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: See the previous posts, Matt stated it very well. Rob is too close to them to be objective. AT least that is how I feel. And yes, I do give a toss who the producer is. That is a very, very important part of the album. A bad producer can take a great song and make it shit. Well yes producer does matters a lot but many of you are bashing Rob only because of the trilogy. Yes, it IS overproduced, but I must say it was musically a good attempt but the production in it, too many fillers and terrible lyrics ruined it. Even if they choose someone else for production, they will make the record they wish like.
WhiteTim Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 Just now, Siddharth_471 said: Well yes producer does matters a lot but many of you are bashing Rob only because of the trilogy. Yes, it IS overproduced, but I must say it was musically a good attempt but the production in it, too many fillers and terrible lyrics ruined it. Even if they choose someone else for production, they will make the record they wish like. the trilogy is not overproduced if it is then AI is beyond the fucking roof... its actually the least produced album since the Lookout days...
Siddharth_471 Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 AI, 21stCB and even some of Warning was overproduced but it was more noticed in trilogy, not because it was experimental but it was really a back to roots attempt and all that stuff didn't worked in it.
Chin for a Day Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said: Well yes producer does matters a lot but many of you are bashing Rob only because of the trilogy. Yes, it IS overproduced, but I must say it was musically a good attempt but the production in it, too many fillers and terrible lyrics ruined it. Even if they choose someone else for production, they will make the record they wish like. I'm not bashing Rob at all and if I was it was not because of the Trilogy. In any situation when someone is too close or had been in a position for quite some time they lose their ability to be objective. Any artist needs a producer that is willing to say something is great or something sucks. I don't believe that Rob has that ability anymore. I could be wrong, but he is just too close to them. And Warning was hardly overproduced.
YoungBlood Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 Any guesses on what the album will be called ?
WhiteTim Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 11 minutes ago, Siddharth_471 said: AI, 21stCB and even some of Warning was overproduced but it was more noticed in trilogy, not because it was experimental but it was really a back to roots attempt and all that stuff didn't worked in it. The trilogy was not over produced in not sure you know what you're talking about vocal effects doesn't make it overproduced...
localinsomniac Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 What part of Warning was overproduced?
Sanity Loan Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 59 minutes ago, ElectricBlue said: Any guesses on what the album will be called ? 'The Target of an Armageddon'
Chin for a Day Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, localinsomniac said: What part of Warning was overproduced? None of it
localinsomniac Posted February 2, 2016 Posted February 2, 2016 18 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: None of it Thank you, that's how I felt.
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