Siddharth_471 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 17 hours ago, Steven Seagull said: Well Ramones were shit so noone cares about them You need to practice more on trolls
Siddharth_471 Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 10 hours ago, desertrose said: New Study Attempts to Definitively Demonstrate the True Meaning of "Punk" The results are sure to stir up conversation in your local Hot Topic line — it turns out that Green Day and Blink-182 are the most referenced bands on playlists that include the word “punk” in the title, appearing on 50 percent or more of the mixes. Despite how much this might piss off “KBD OOP” Discogs dweebs and other punk traditionalists, Daniels argues that Blink-182 is ultimately an accurate representation of “punk” today. “I have a theory: in 2015, Blink-182 epitomizes punk culture, just as the Ramones, Sex Pistols, Black Flag, etc. did ten years ago,” he writes. “For the masses, Blink-182 isn't just pop-punk – it's real punk.” http://exclaim.ca/music/article/new_study_attempts_to_definitively_demonstrate_the_true_meaning_of_punk I guess out of these bands GD, Offspring, Rise Against, Bad Religion and NOFX are the only ones from the first wave and rest are from the new wave and are called the "Ramones" and "Black Flag" of present because not only punk but many other genres are evolving from what they were while originating but I'am still against "pop-punk".
She_92 Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 I had this kind of conversation with my big brother, who introduced me to Green Day by the way lol, and he thinks that Green Day are no longer a rock band. Not after American Idiot. Everyone can think what they want but I think that we cannot take away the rock in them. They will be always a rock band, and the subgenre that they can face in their music are not so important. This, of course, is my opinion. So, yeah, I agree with who said that music is subjective. And I hate labels and genrse, subgenres, too.
unextraordinarygirl Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 16 hours ago, WhiteTim said: personally i have two categories good music and bad music Same here Tim. And if it's bad I just don't listen to it.
That Dude Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Punk Rock started out because Rock N Roll in the 70s was turning into this boring, "prog-rock" style with 10 minute guitar solos and no substance ("the excesses of 1970 rock". Punk rock, as wild as appeared - was all about taking the genre back to it's roots. The early punk bands (the ones credited with starting this whole mess anyway) definitely had pop influences and weren't ashamed of them. Green Day is the same way. The Ramones had very catchy, short fast songs about heartbreak over a girl and being the underdog. The Clash and certainly the Sex Pistols stray into deeper lyrical territory but the song structures were pop influenced. What do people want Punk to sound like, breaking glass, baseball bats and buzz saws? The simple answer to this though has already been said. They are popular. They are punk (which is just a silly label.....they are a Rock band)
Guest Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 8 hours ago, Siddharth_471 said: I guess out of these bands GD, Offspring, Rise Against, Bad Religion and NOFX are the only ones from the first wave and rest are from the new wave and are called the "Ramones" and "Black Flag" of present because not only punk but many other genres are evolving from what they were while originating but I'am still against "pop-punk". Any punk poll that doesn't include the Ramones, Black Flag, the Sex Pistols and the Clash is automatically invalid.
Guest Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 6 hours ago, thatdude03 said: the Sex Pistols stray into deeper lyrical territory I have literally never heard anyone claim this before. I'm not denying their influence, but Rotten's lyrics never went beyond vaguely controversial anti-establishment statements. You might be confusing them with The Clash, but I really don't see how you possibly could have done that.
PursuitOfEpicness Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 3 hours ago, Pikachu said: Any punk poll that doesn't include the Ramones, Black Flag, the Sex Pistols and the Clash is automatically invalid. I try to have a open mind about people's different interest in punk rock but i sorta agree. I could possibly do without Black Flag though, still a really important band.
That Dude Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 6 hours ago, Céadóg said: I have literally never heard anyone claim this before. I'm not denying their influence, but Rotten's lyrics never went beyond vaguely controversial anti-establishment statements. You might be confusing them with The Clash, but I really don't see how you possibly could have done that. Should have worded differently. I simply meant that they sang about more than getting dumped or unrequited love. I in no way, shape or form think of the Sex Pistols as "deep". The Clash were political but had some really catch songs about girls as well. But I forget what we're evening talking about now. Oh. Pop Punk. All pop is punk, all punk is pop and it's all rock n roll.
desertrose Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 Entertainment Music January 20, 2016 10:57 pm Neck Deep’s Ben Barlow Talks Singapore, Pop Punk And Billie Joe Armstrong The lead singer of Green Day recently tweeted that his new year’s resolution is to “destroy the phrase ‘pop punk’ forever”. What do you think he meant by this? As a pop punk band, are you offended by this statement? Who knows! I think it’s kinda ironic because arguably Green Day created the genre with “Dookie”. It was one of the first times punk music was accepted by the mainstream and had ‘poppy’ structures and hooks. For years he toured with pop punk bands too. Maybe he’s being a little elitist. Billie Joe is the ultimate punk, at least in the modern era don’t get me wrong, so maybe he’s playing up to that. I really look up to the guy, he’s truly a legend but I don’t quite get that statement, maybe he’s doing it to stir up a fuss. I think it kinda sucks he would be like that but whatever, it has no effect on what we do. If you like the music then you like the music, if you don’t then you don’t. Fuck labels and fuck being swayed by people’s views and opinions, no matter how highly regarded their opinions may be. You do you, that’s the most important thing, and that’s ‘punk’. Rank the top three bands in the genre that you’d die to tour with. Blink 182 New Found Glory Green Day http://popspoken.com/entertainment/2016/01/neck-deeps-ben-barlow-talks-singapore-pop-punk-billie-joe-armstrong
Overjoyyed Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 think of the roots of what pop means- it means popular. I would consider a AI, Dookie, and 21CB as popular- therefore pop works. I consider green day to be rock music. I don't care to put them into an even smaller category.
Wearethewaiting837 Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Since ¡UNO! theyve been pop,admit it.
XXXNoOneKnowsXXX Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Green Day were a Punk Rock band until Insomniac. After that, they leave the Punk Rock to make music more "pop" with some songs of Punk Rock style. I will never understand why there are people insulting to Green Day because they make "Pop Music" when they consider bands like Ramones or The Clash (especially The Clash) 100% Punk Rock, when The Clash has more albums of Reggae music that Punk Rock. And Ramones has much songs like Baby I Love You, The KKK Took My Baby Away, Needles & Pins, Don't Go, I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend, I Want You Around, Don't Come Close, Howling At The Moon, Do You Remember Rock And Roll Radio, We Want The Airwaves, 7-11, Come On Now, Sitting In My Room.... The logic of the haters: This is Pop Music (Of course, this is pop) But this is Punk Rock
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