Private Ale. Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 4 hours ago, JJ1964 said: 8th Avenue Serenade is one of the Trilogy songs I would have torn up and thrown in the garbage. It sounds like a boy band song to me. No,it's Nightlife. Written for little girls to sing along to the rap part and autotuned by the boyband industry .8th avenue serenade is meaningful and good song and not the one a boyband would sing if they want to keep their fans aroused and wet.
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 16 minutes ago, Private Ale. said: No,it's Nightlife. Written for little girls to sing along to the rap part and autotuned by the boyband industry .8th avenue serenade is meaningful and good song and not the one a boyband would sing if they want to keep their fans aroused and wet. ... well then.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 27 minutes ago, Private Ale. said: No,it's Nightlife. Written for little girls to sing along to the rap part and autotuned by the boyband endustry .8th avenue serenade is meaningful and good song and not the one a boyband would sing if they want to keep their fans aroused and wet. Well I'm a little girl who likes to sing along to the rap part, the autotune makes me wet and the lyrics are totally arousing. Only thing that brings me the same satisfaction is Fifty Shades of Grey.
Chin for a Day Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 18 minutes ago, Private Ale. said: No,it's Nightlife. Written for little girls to sing along to the rap part and autotuned by the boyband industry .8th avenue serenade is meaningful and good song and not the one a boyband would sing if they want to keep their fans aroused and wet. Ahhh no. I find Nightlife to be fun and I love to sing along to the girl part. It is something different that they have never done before. Do I want an entire album of Nightlife, absolutely not, but it was fun for one song. I would love to see them do it live with me singing the girl part. And yes, the lyrics are very arousing. 8th Avenue Serenade has no meaning and it has such arousing lines as: "Meet me at the bathroom stall" I find the song childish, boring and bubblegumish. This is my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own. 3 hours ago, Hermione said: If we're talking songs that don't belong 99 Revolutions is the one. I do actually like it and I'd rather have heard it than not but it really doesn't fit the theme of the albums at all. It was also the worst possible choice of song to name the tour after, didn't reflect the new albums and made it sound like they hadn't moved on from American Idiot/21st CB and were still churning out more of the same. I agree that 99 Revolutions was a bad choice to head line the tour. It gives the impression that it is another political album, when it is not. I personally would have liked Missing You as a choice to name the tour. It is a song that I didn't care for at first, but have grown to like. Also, it is upbeat and would be a great opener and kind of shows that they are excited to be back on the road again.
Hermione Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 5 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: 8th Avenue Serenade has no meaning and it has such arousing lines as: "Meet me at the bathroom stall" I find the song childish, boring and bubblegumish. This is my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own. Aww but it's not just that, it's "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before all the flames burn out". I think those are great lyrics about wanting to keep a relationship alive, romantic but also blunt and honest in the same vein as Church On Sunday or Redundant.
Chin for a Day Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Just now, Hermione said: Aww but it's not just that, it's "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before all the flames burn out". I think those are great lyrics about wanting to keep a relationship alive, romantic but also blunt honest in the same vein as Church On Sunday or Redundant. Whoa!!!!!! I have to totally disagree with you there. Church on Sunday and Redundant are beautiful, thoughtful and meaningful. "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before all the flames burn out" is just not the same as anything in Church on Sunday or Redundant. I personally feel that Church on Sunday is the most beautiful and real love songs ever written. O love the way he switches the lines to show that a relationship is a compromise. Just look at the lines: "I hereby solemnly swear to tell the whole truth And nothing but the truth is what I'll ever hear from you now" I always thought it was so clever how he switched it from the "I" in the first line to "You" in the last one. It shows that this compromise applies to both of them. 8th Avenue Serenade just can't compare. If you can't tell, Church on Sunday means alot to me.
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Yeah, the trilogy lyrics can't really compare to any pre-triolgy lyrics. Even the pre-Dookie days seem more meaningful, inspired and genuine, lyrics-wise.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 8 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Yeah, the trilogy lyrics can't really compare to any pre-triolgy lyrics. Even the pre-Dookie days seem more meaningful, inspired and genuine, lyrics-wise. I think they're mostly comparable. I can't think of any 1,039 SOSH song that would stand out on the trilogy. Keprlunk is another story - I must admit.
moonflower93 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 20 minutes ago, Jane Lannister said: I think they're mostly comparable. I can't think of any 1,039 SOSH song that would stand out on the trilogy. Keprlunk is another story - I must admit. 409 is better than all of the trilogy combined
ThisUsernameHasBeenStolen Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 1. See You Tonight 2. Fuck Time (could be the title track) 3. 8th Avenue Serenade 4. Let Yourself Go 5. Kill The DJ 6. Stop When The Red Lights Flash 7. Lazy Bones 8. Baby Eyes (Demolicious bass intro) 9. Troublemaker 10. Stray Heart 11. Ashley 12. Makeout Party 13. X-Kid 14. Brutal Love 15. 99 Revolutions Apologies for including spacing, it wouldn't let me close them
Hermione Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 3 hours ago, JJ1964 said: Whoa!!!!!! I have to totally disagree with you there. Church on Sunday and Redundant are beautiful, thoughtful and meaningful. "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before all the flames burn out" is just not the same as anything in Church on Sunday or Redundant. I personally feel that Church on Sunday is the most beautiful and real love songs ever written. O love the way he switches the lines to show that a relationship is a compromise. Just look at the lines: "I hereby solemnly swear to tell the whole truth And nothing but the truth is what I'll ever hear from you now" I always thought it was so clever how he switched it from the "I" in the first line to "You" in the last one. It shows that this compromise applies to both of them. 8th Avenue Serenade just can't compare. If you can't tell, Church on Sunday means alot to me. Yeah Church On Sunday and Redundant have more to them and are more serious long term relationship songs while 8th Avenue Serenade is lighter and more simple. But it does share the romantic yet blunt/honest thing with them. I think it has simple but well written, pretty and heartfelt lyrics about wishing to maintain a relationship, I really have no idea why they wouldn't be considered comparable to earlier work or what seems less inspired or genuine about them. 1 hour ago, ThisUsernameHasBeenStolen said: 1. See You Tonight 2. Fuck Time (could be the title track) 3. 8th Avenue Serenade 4. Let Yourself Go 5. Kill The DJ 6. Stop When The Red Lights Flash 7. Lazy Bones 8. Baby Eyes (Demolicious bass intro) 9. Troublemaker 10. Stray Heart 11. Ashley 12. Makeout Party 13. X-Kid 14. Brutal Love 15. 99 Revolutions Apologies for including spacing, it wouldn't let me close them We have very similar taste in trilogy songs! Majority of my favourites are here. The See You Tonight and Fuck Time combo is the essential opener, genius way to start an album imo
Clayish Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Yeah, 8th Avenue is one of the better songs on the trilogy.
Chin for a Day Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 58 minutes ago, Hermione said: Yeah Church On Sunday and Redundant have more to them and are more serious long term relationship songs while 8th Avenue Serenade is lighter and more simple. But it does share the romantic yet blunt/honest thing with them. I think it has simple but well written, pretty and heartfelt lyrics about wishing to maintain a relationship, I really have no idea why they wouldn't be considered comparable to earlier work or what seems less inspired or genuine about them. I do not interpret 8th Avenue Serenade as a song about maintaining a relationship. I interpret it as a song about a affair. "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before the flames burn out." To me that is get over here in a hurry, and be quiet about it because no one can find out and we have to do this in a hurry. "Say hello from your window, say goodbye from your car, say goodnight from your pillow, say so long from the stars" To me this means say hello, then get out, but remember me when you are asleep alone. I dont' see this as any way shape or form comparable to the sentiments of Church on Sunday, which is a legitmate attempt to maintain a loving, caring relationship and how there has to be compromises.
The Great Saiyaman Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 5 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said: Even the pre-Dookie days seem more meaningful, inspired and genuine, lyrics-wise. Not to mention that they're actually good.
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 35 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: I do not interpret 8th Avenue Serenade as a song about maintaining a relationship. I interpret it as a song about a affair. "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before the flames burn out." To me that is get over here in a hurry, and be quiet about it because no one can find out and we have to do this in a hurry. "Say hello from your window, say goodbye from your car, say goodnight from your pillow, say so long from the stars" To me this means say hello, then get out, but remember me when you are asleep alone. I dont' see this as any way shape or form comparable to the sentiments of Church on Sunday, which is a legitmate attempt to maintain a loving, caring relationship and how there has to be compromises. I absolutely agree. "Meet me at the bathroom stall" is enough to indicate an affair in itself because in fairness why would anyone meet up with their wife in a public toilet stall Half the damn trilogy alludes to an affair and this is just another song, a pretty song though. You would have to be fairly deluded to think this is a song about a loving, long-term relationship/marriage if you actually listen to the lyrics.
Hermione Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 57 minutes ago, JJ1964 said: I do not interpret 8th Avenue Serenade as a song about maintaining a relationship. I interpret it as a song about a affair. "Meet me at the bathroom stall, meet me at the whispering wall, before the flames burn out." To me that is get over here in a hurry, and be quiet about it because no one can find out and we have to do this in a hurry. "Say hello from your window, say goodbye from your car, say goodnight from your pillow, say so long from the stars" To me this means say hello, then get out, but remember me when you are asleep alone. I dont' see this as any way shape or form comparable to the sentiments of Church on Sunday, which is a legitmate attempt to maintain a loving, caring relationship and how there has to be compromises. Good point, could be about an affair. But it's still about maintaining the relationship . I know the sentiments of the songs are different, like I said it's just the honest mix of romance and bluntness that made me link the two. I don't get how it being about a fling or whatever somehow makes it of less value than if it's about a long term relationship though? A lot of the criticism the trilogy gets seems to be because some of the lyrics are based on past relationship experiences or midlife crisis type thoughts of how it would be to have an affair etc rather than perhaps married life, but I don't see why there can't be room for him to write about that or why it's assumed it comes from a less genuine/inspired place (not saying you think that, just in general).
Guest Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Gonna record myself having explosive diarrhea and sell it as the Trilogy's Greatest Hits. No one will know the difference.
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 1 minute ago, Céadóg said: Gonna record myself having explosive diarrhea and sell it as the Trilogy's Greatest Hits. No one will know the difference. It would sound better...and you could release the demos on RSD...everyone would say how it sounds so raw and only listen to that version so as get the real studio toilet experience. 8 minutes ago, Hermione said: Good point, could be about an affair. But it's still about maintaining the relationship . I know the sentiments of the songs are different, like I said it's just the honest mix of romance and bluntness that made me link the two. I don't get how it being about a fling or whatever somehow makes it of less value than if it's about a long term relationship though? A lot of the criticism the trilogy gets seems to be because some of the lyrics are based on past relationship experiences or midlife crisis type thoughts of how it would be to have an affair etc rather than perhaps married life, but I don't see why there can't be room for him to write about that or why it's assumed it comes from a less genuine/inspired place (not saying you think that, just in general). I don't think I've seen many people criticising Billie for writing about having an affair or having flings or a midlife crisis and writing about it. He can write about whatever he wants. It's all good. It's all life. People criticise him for writing about his flings/midlife crisis/ affairs BADLY and spreading the crappy lyrics over three terrible albums. By all means if he writes about more flings but does it well in the future that's just perfectly fine. What kind of moral police would care about how he lives his life anyway? But keep writing shitty songs and I'm going to rant
Hermione Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 15 minutes ago, st_trillie said: It would sound better...and you could release the demos on RSD...everyone would say how it sounds so raw and only listen to that version so as get the real studio toilet experience. I don't think I've seen many people criticising Billie for writing about having an affair or having flings or a midlife crisis and writing about it. He can write about whatever he wants. It's all good. It's all life. People criticise him for writing about his flings/midlife crisis/ affairs BADLY and spreading the crappy lyrics over three terrible albums. By all means if he writes about more flings but does it well in the future that's just perfectly fine. What kind of moral police would care about how he lives his life anyway? But keep writing shitty songs and I'm going to rant I don't mean people object from a moral standpoint, I mean they act like it's a silly thing to write about and songs on those subjects are of lesser artistic value. I know there's also people who just think the lyrics are crap or way worse than on other albums regardless of what they're about (which I obviously disagree with as well ), but the subject matter has been the source of a lot of the criticism.
Chin for a Day Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 1 hour ago, Hermione said: Good point, could be about an affair. But it's still about maintaining the relationship . I know the sentiments of the songs are different, like I said it's just the honest mix of romance and bluntness that made me link the two. I don't get how it being about a fling or whatever somehow makes it of less value than if it's about a long term relationship though? A lot of the criticism the trilogy gets seems to be because some of the lyrics are based on past relationship experiences or midlife crisis type thoughts of how it would be to have an affair etc rather than perhaps married life, but I don't see why there can't be room for him to write about that or why it's assumed it comes from a less genuine/inspired place (not saying you think that, just in general). I have no problem with Billie writing about an affair. That is also not the reason I don't like the song, I have no moral objection to it. We will just have to agree to disagree on whether the song is good or not. I don't think it is well written or pretty. I find it boring. What I was really disagreeing on was that I don't believe the sentiments of 8th Ave serenade are the same as the semtiments of church on sunday.
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 40 minutes ago, Hermione said: I don't mean people object from a moral standpoint, I mean they act like it's a silly thing to write about and songs on those subjects are of lesser artistic value. I know there's also people who just think the lyrics are crap or way worse than on other albums regardless of what they're about (which I obviously disagree with as well ), but the subject matter has been the source of a lot of the criticism. I suspect a lot of these people are members of a strange and rather annoying bunch of "Billie loves 80 forever" obsessives who can't fathom the notion that Billie would write a song like Stray Heart unless it's about liking a dog he saw in the park and feeling bad when he got home to his own dog. I can see how the subject matter must have been tough on the likes of them. Like "there is no Santa" tough.
unextraordinarygirl Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 Here is my list of songs. I'm sure there will be people who disagree with me but I'm gonna post it anyway because its my opinion! From Uno: Carpe Diem - because I like the songs message Let Yourself Go - because the song rocks and gets me going Oh Love - just because I like it From Dos: Fuck Time - especially the FBH version because it rocks and I feel naughty singing it and watching Billie sing it. Stop When the Red Lights Flash - FBH version because It's an awesome song See You Tonight - It's a pretty song and would be a great duet with a women From Tre: Brutal Love - It reminds me of the records my mom played for me when I was little of music from the 50's and I liked it. Missing You - I just like this song, that's all X-Kid - The song is awesome and sad about his friend that committed suicide Dirty Rotten Bastards - Again I just like that song The Forgotten - It has a Paul McCartneyesque style to it. It reminds me of Let It Be.
Hermione Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 9 hours ago, JJ1964 said: I have no problem with Billie writing about an affair. That is also not the reason I don't like the song, I have no moral objection to it. We will just have to agree to disagree on whether the song is good or not. I don't think it is well written or pretty. I find it boring. What I was really disagreeing on was that I don't believe the sentiments of 8th Ave serenade are the same as the semtiments of church on sunday. Oh yeah I wasn't trying to say you did, I was speaking generally in the second paragraph of my post. 8 hours ago, st_trillie said: I suspect a lot of these people are members of a strange and rather annoying bunch of "Billie loves 80 forever" obsessives who can't fathom the notion that Billie would write a song like Stray Heart unless it's about liking a dog he saw in the park and feeling bad when he got home to his own dog. I can see how the subject matter must have been tough on the likes of them. Like "there is no Santa" tough. Yeah I'm sure it didn't please them . A lot of it isn't even to that level though, it's more just like he's 40 so it's silly or at least not as worthwhile for him to write about "immature" stuff.
Jirachi Posted December 13, 2015 Posted December 13, 2015 In no particular order 1.) Nuclear Family 2.) Let Yourself Go 3.) Kill The DJ 4.) Carpe Diem 5.) Stay The Night 6.) Fuck Time 7.) Makeout Party 8.) Stray Heart 9.) Lazy Bones 10.) Dirty Rotten Bastards 11.) Missing You 12.) Amanda 13.) X-Kid 14.) Brutal love 15.) Oh Love I wanted to include Angel Blue, Stop When The Red Lights Flash, Ashley, and Fell For You somewhere but meh Note that i havent ehard the trilogy in a long while, these are just the songs i remember liking at least decently from them, i bet if i relisten to them the list'd change or just rpetty much do demolicious and replace the accoustic stay the night with any of the songs on this
DirtyRottenForgotten Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 My ideal Trilogy compilation would definitely be called Nuclear Family and the only real difference in sound I would make would be to get a better guitar sound on most of the songs. 1.) Nuclear Family 2.) Fuck Time 3.) Stop When The Red Lights Flash 4.) X-Kid 5.) Missing You 6.) 8th Avenue Serenade 7.) Kill The DJ 8.) Lazy Bones 9.) Fell For You 10.) Loss of Control 11.) Dirty Rotten Bastards 12.) Brutal Love 13.) Stray Heart 14.) Let Yourself Go 15.) Angel Blue 16.) Rusty James 17.) 99 Revolutions 18.) Amy
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