Where do you personally think Green Day should go sonically with their next record?

[Ham Pascale]

18 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

Well AI is an "epic" and a concept record, and it is considered signature Green Day.

 

The thing is, Green Day let American Idiot grow organically. They weren't like, "Okay, let's do a concept album." But with 21st Century Breakdown and the Trilogy they tried (but eventually failed) to live up to American Idiot's greatness, because everyone expected (and still expects) them to do so. Because that all of sudden became "their thing", like, "signature Green Day". And that's what kind of took all the fun out of it.

[Chin for a Day]

2 minutes ago, Ham Pascale said:

 

The thing is, Green Day let American Idiot grow organically. They weren't like, "Okay, let's do a concept album." But with 21st Century Breakdown and the Trilogy they tried (but eventually failed) to live up to American Idiot's greatness, because everyone expected (and still expects) them to do so. Because that all of sudden became "their thing", like, "signature Green Day". And that's what kind of took all the fun out of it.

 

Actually they did say: "Let's do a concept album"  Billie always wanted to write one and that is what they decided to do the "lost tapes" incident.  

 

I personally love 21 CB, so I don't consider it a failure.  

[Ham Pascale]

35 minutes ago, JJ1964 said:

 

Actually they did say: "Let's do a concept album"  Billie always wanted to write one and that is what they decided to do the "lost tapes" incident.  

 

I personally love 21 CB, so I don't consider it a failure.  

I mean, they didn't decide to do a concept album the moment they stepped foot in the studio. First came the music and only then came the storyline and Green Day's decision to do this thing. But later on, it has somehow lost its punch, really. It was Green Day trying to be Green Day.

 

Neither do I. It was great, but it didn't quite live up to American Idiot.

[Chin for a Day]

2 minutes ago, Ham Pascale said:

I mean, they didn't decide to do a concept album the moment they stepped foot in the studio. First came the music and only then came the storyline and Green Day's decision to do this thing. But later on, it has somehow lost its punch, really.

 

 

 

I don't know that that is true.  I thought that Mike came up with that one line from Homecoming and Billie got the Jesus of Surburbia concept while on a walk.  I thought they did go into the studio with the idea of a concept album.  I could be wrong though.

[Ham Pascale]

1 minute ago, JJ1964 said:

 

I don't know that that is true.  I thought that Mike came up with that one line from Homecoming and Billie got the Jesus of Surburbia concept while on a walk.  I thought they did go into the studio with the idea of a concept album.  I could be wrong though.

Yes, you are absolutely correct, but I believe it is implied that they didn't go into the studio intending to record a concept album in American Idiots & The New Punk Explosion biography.

[That Dude]

On 10/24/2015 at 9:53 PM, DookieLukie said:

 

 

American.  Idiot.  II.   The.  Forgotten. Decade.

[Westside Highway]

Green Day should pull a radiohead and go electronica! shoegaze or folk would be cool too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvet_E4JgLo

[That Dude]

Pirate Sound.

 

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[SomeNimrod97]

8 hours ago, thatdude03 said:

Pirate Sound.

 

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Looking good. Swap out the roman numerals on the second one for the word "LIVE" and it could be the companion live album cover after the tour. If one of those covers were used, it would just make it a whole lot better than the Trilogy's artwork, consisting of 3 faces with average backgrounds and stock typeface found in Microsoft Office.

[PleasedToMeetMe]

On December 10, 2015 at 10:09 AM, DookieLukie said:

 

On December 10, 2015 at 10:09 AM, DookieLukie said:

Yeah if fans had control, Billie Joe might think 99 Revs is the best song he's ever written! Oh wait...

 

Well AI is an "epic" and a concept record, and it is considered signature Green Day.

Indeed, but it's been done. They tried too hard to recreate AI with 21st Century Breakdown and then went overboard with the trilogy. I love 21st Century Breakdown and the trilogy but id like the next album to be in the vein of songs like Letterbomb and Murder City.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

I realized today how much I really need some new Green Day in my life. I went a while without listening to any of their stuff, I think partially because I was burned out on it after the spring festivities, and partially beacuse I was pissed that Nifi got canceled. I listened to American Idiot and Jesus of Suburbia back-to-back today for the first time in months and I actually got chills. That hasn't happened in years. I need to sit down and listen to the whole album again soon, I guess. I think it really resonates with where I'm at right now in my life.

Some new Green Day sounds pretty fucking good right now though, too. I need some inspiration.

/endsappypost

[inthehallwaynow]

under the sea

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

1 minute ago, inthehallwaynow said:

under the sea

[Brutal-xkid2]

36 minutes ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

I realized today how much I really need some new Green Day in my life. I went a while without listening to any of their stuff, I think partially because I was burned out on it after the spring festivities, and partially beacuse I was pissed that Nifi got canceled. I listened to American Idiot and Jesus of Suburbia back-to-back today for the first time in months and I actually got chills. That hasn't happened in years. I need to sit down and listen to the whole album again soon, I guess. I think it really resonates with where I'm at right now in my life.

Some new Green Day sounds pretty fucking good right now though, too. I need some inspiration.

/endsappypost

I actually quite enjoy reading posts like that, feels good when other people are at the same conditions)) i need a new stuff right now)

I think their new songs will be more poppish than punk. A lot of vocals, and Billie will finally show his voice off

[DookieLukie]

17 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

 I actually got chills. That hasn't happened in years.

Sex therapy is a very normal and quite popular treatment that you and your man should consider. After many years of boring, uneventful marriage, many women can no longer feel a strong enough emotional bond with their mate to climax. In a few weeks, or maybe a few months depending on how much you've both let yourselves go, sex therapy can get you up and orgasming again. If you have good communication with your mate, you can also order Sex Therapy for Boring Couples online for 25 easy payments of $19.99. That's right, just 25 easy payments of $49.99. One more time, 25 easy payments of $99.99. We'll also throw in a complimentary fruitcake for you and your man to enjoy as a celebration after reaching that cherished point of no return. Just go to www.myhusbandcannolongerpleasemeihatehimhedoesnthelparoundthehouseomghisfriendsaresogrossineverhavetimetotreatmyselfmaybeishouldcheat.com and retore your youth today.

[Hermione]

11 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

Sex therapy is a very normal and quite popular treatment that you and your man should consider. After many years of boring, uneventful marriage, many women can no longer feel a strong enough emotional bond with their mate to climax. In a few weeks, or maybe a few months depending on how much you've both let yourselves go, sex therapy can get you up and orgasming again. If you have good communication with your mate, you can also order Sex Therapy for Boring Couples online for 25 easy payments of $19.99. That's right, just 25 easy payments of $49.99. One more time, 25 easy payments of $99.99. We'll also throw in a complimentary fruitcake for you and your man to enjoy as a celebration after reaching that cherished point of no return. Just go to www.myhusbandcannolongerpleasemeihatehimhedoesnthelparoundthehouseomghisfriendsaresogrossineverhavetimetotreatmyselfmaybeishouldcheat.com and retore your youth today.

Making creepy/sexual replies to random innocuous posts is uncalled for and inappropriate. Don't do it.

[SmoothedOut]

I think I'd love anything they put out now. When I got into rock in the last decade, I did not dig the emo scene/culture. Although Green Day were one of those eyeliner-sporting bands that were the subject of much hate, I sensed in them what I thought captured the spirit of rock n'roll: FUN and DANGER. Sure enough, Green Day got me looking at older rock music: AC/DC, the Who, the Sex Pistols, etc. Basically all the bands in the School of Rock. I think they shared characteristics in the theatrical sense, they captured the audience with their appearance and antics on-stage. Forgive me if I'm breaking away from a critique of just their 'sound', but I think that the greatest bands were those that brought more than just music on-stage.

Almost 2016. It alarms me that rock music in the mainstream has declined drastically in so little time. When UNO came out in 2012, I was relieved that a huge band like Green Day was going back-to-basics sound-wise and I thought it was going to be the start of something new. But iHeart Radio happened and I don't think the Trilogy reached enough places to make the impact I expected. Punk is now nowhere in the mainstream.

It appears that (where I'm from at least), 'Indie Music' has risen from the ashes of those 2000s bands. I'll say that I'm happy for this because back in the 2000s, the Strokes and the Arctic Monkeys were the only few bands who were young and played rock n' roll music. They were much like Green Day in that they did not have overly distorted guitars or extremely whiney vocals. I was listening to them when others were content with Story of the Year, Yellowcard, and Good Charlotte. They didn't dress like emos either, they weren't mainstream, and certainly didn't whine about their break-ups. Green Day should have been at the forefront of this movement as they always had this rock and roll edge to them that I feel their 2000s contemporaries didn't, and their break-away from that mainstream punk rock scene with the Trilogy was the first of its kind. Now indie is mainstream and Green Day is nowhere to be found. Why? Rock N' Roll was always supposed to be dangerous but why are the Ramones, Sex Pistols, or Green Day nowhere to be found when that music has returned, sound-wise at least?

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST

but I just think that 'rock music' right now is too safe. You get pop fans who say they like rock music when they really just listen to the Arctic Monkeys... and nothing louder than that. Sound-wise, maybe volume does not matter but what about life-style associated with that music? Penny-boards are fine but skateboards are too dangerous. Its like indie kids have become the new hippies. They just smoke weed, talk about love and shit, but never get anything done. And I know people will say "its always like this, theres good music in the underground". But I find that kids, more so than ever, aren't discovering Kurt Cobain anymore and it's worrying.

Again, this is how its like where I'm from. Anyone have opinions on the current state of rock music in their locations?

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

19 hours ago, DookieLukie said:

Sex therapy is a very normal and quite popular treatment that you and your man should consider. After many years of boring, uneventful marriage, many women can no longer feel a strong enough emotional bond with their mate to climax. In a few weeks, or maybe a few months depending on how much you've both let yourselves go, sex therapy can get you up and orgasming again. If you have good communication with your mate, you can also order Sex Therapy for Boring Couples online for 25 easy payments of $19.99. That's right, just 25 easy payments of $49.99. One more time, 25 easy payments of $99.99. We'll also throw in a complimentary fruitcake for you and your man to enjoy as a celebration after reaching that cherished point of no return. Just go to www.myhusbandcannolongerpleasemeihatehimhedoesnthelparoundthehouseomghisfriendsaresogrossineverhavetimetotreatmyselfmaybeishouldcheat.com and retore your youth today.

1. I guarantee I'm having more sex than you.

2. Fuck off. You're not funny.

[unextraordinarygirl]

On Friday, December 18, 2015 at 0:30 AM, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

Oh Great Thanks, now I have that song stuck in my head, complete with corney Caribbean accent! LoL 

4 hours ago, SmoothedOut said:

I think I'd love anything they put out now. When I got into rock in the last decade, I did not dig the emo scene/culture. Although Green Day were one of those eyeliner-sporting bands that were the subject of much hate, I sensed in them what I thought captured the spirit of rock n'roll: FUN and DANGER. Sure enough, Green Day got me looking at older rock music: AC/DC, the Who, the Sex Pistols, etc. Basically all the bands in the School of Rock. I think they shared characteristics in the theatrical sense, they captured the audience with their appearance and antics on-stage. Forgive me if I'm breaking away from a critique of just their 'sound', but I think that the greatest bands were those that brought more than just music on-stage.

Almost 2016. It alarms me that rock music in the mainstream has declined drastically in so little time. When UNO came out in 2012, I was relieved that a huge band like Green Day was going back-to-basics sound-wise and I thought it was going to be the start of something new. But iHeart Radio happened and I don't think the Trilogy reached enough places to make the impact I expected. Punk is now nowhere in the mainstream.

It appears that (where I'm from at least), 'Indie Music' has risen from the ashes of those 2000s bands. I'll say that I'm happy for this because back in the 2000s, the Strokes and the Arctic Monkeys were the only few bands who were young and played rock n' roll music. They were much like Green Day in that they did not have overly distorted guitars or extremely whiney vocals. I was listening to them when others were content with Story of the Year, Yellowcard, and Good Charlotte. They didn't dress like emos either, they weren't mainstream, and certainly didn't whine about their break-ups. Green Day should have been at the forefront of this movement as they always had this rock and roll edge to them that I feel their 2000s contemporaries didn't, and their break-away from that mainstream punk rock scene with the Trilogy was the first of its kind. Now indie is mainstream and Green Day is nowhere to be found. Why? Rock N' Roll was always supposed to be dangerous but why are the Ramones, Sex Pistols, or Green Day nowhere to be found when that music has returned, sound-wise at least?

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST

but I just think that 'rock music' right now is too safe. You get pop fans who say they like rock music when they really just listen to the Arctic Monkeys... and nothing louder than that. Sound-wise, maybe volume does not matter but what about life-style associated with that music? Penny-boards are fine but skateboards are too dangerous. Its like indie kids have become the new hippies. They just smoke weed, talk about love and shit, but never get anything done. And I know people will say "its always like this, theres good music in the underground". But I find that kids, more so than ever, aren't discovering Kurt Cobain anymore and it's worrying.

Again, this is how its like where I'm from. Anyone have opinions on the current state of rock music in their locations?

Please don't call Green day Emo because they're not. They are a rock band that are sometimes associated with Punk. 

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

41 minutes ago, unextraordinarygirl said:

Oh Great Thanks, now I have that song stuck in my head, complete with corney Caribbean accent! LoL 

Sebastian isn't corny! He is de best!  

 

Spoiler

I've got it stuck in my head too, so now we can suffer together! 

 

[DookieLukie]

10 hours ago, AlissaGoesRAWR said:

1. I guarantee I'm having more sex than you.

2. Fuck off. You're not funny.

Eh, disagree on both points.

13 hours ago, SmoothedOut said:

I think I'd love anything they put out now. When I got into rock in the last decade, I did not dig the emo scene/culture. Although Green Day were one of those eyeliner-sporting bands that were the subject of much hate, I sensed in them what I thought captured the spirit of rock n'roll: FUN and DANGER. Sure enough, Green Day got me looking at older rock music: AC/DC, the Who, the Sex Pistols, etc. Basically all the bands in the School of Rock. I think they shared characteristics in the theatrical sense, they captured the audience with their appearance and antics on-stage. Forgive me if I'm breaking away from a critique of just their 'sound', but I think that the greatest bands were those that brought more than just music on-stage.

Almost 2016. It alarms me that rock music in the mainstream has declined drastically in so little time. When UNO came out in 2012, I was relieved that a huge band like Green Day was going back-to-basics sound-wise and I thought it was going to be the start of something new. But iHeart Radio happened and I don't think the Trilogy reached enough places to make the impact I expected. Punk is now nowhere in the mainstream.

It appears that (where I'm from at least), 'Indie Music' has risen from the ashes of those 2000s bands. I'll say that I'm happy for this because back in the 2000s, the Strokes and the Arctic Monkeys were the only few bands who were young and played rock n' roll music. They were much like Green Day in that they did not have overly distorted guitars or extremely whiney vocals. I was listening to them when others were content with Story of the Year, Yellowcard, and Good Charlotte. They didn't dress like emos either, they weren't mainstream, and certainly didn't whine about their break-ups. Green Day should have been at the forefront of this movement as they always had this rock and roll edge to them that I feel their 2000s contemporaries didn't, and their break-away from that mainstream punk rock scene with the Trilogy was the first of its kind. Now indie is mainstream and Green Day is nowhere to be found. Why? Rock N' Roll was always supposed to be dangerous but why are the Ramones, Sex Pistols, or Green Day nowhere to be found when that music has returned, sound-wise at least?

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST

but I just think that 'rock music' right now is too safe. You get pop fans who say they like rock music when they really just listen to the Arctic Monkeys... and nothing louder than that. Sound-wise, maybe volume does not matter but what about life-style associated with that music? Penny-boards are fine but skateboards are too dangerous. Its like indie kids have become the new hippies. They just smoke weed, talk about love and shit, but never get anything done. And I know people will say "its always like this, theres good music in the underground". But I find that kids, more so than ever, aren't discovering Kurt Cobain anymore and it's worrying.

Again, this is how its like where I'm from. Anyone have opinions on the current state of rock music in their locations?

I agree on pretty much every point. Modern indie music is considered "rock" when it really isn't. Bands like Imagine Dragons and Artic Monkeys are safe and all talk. Sadly, they dominate what is considered rock music, when it's really just a slightly slower and harder version of pop music for angsty teens and little girls, similar to 5SOS and 1D. Fuck, Death Cab for Cutie is nominated for Best Rock Album, and Florence and the Machine is nominated for Best Rock Performance. Neither of these are stereotypical rock bands. Rock is an umbrella term, but there's a uniting similarity of energy and power. 

What sets Green Day apart from other bands like Blink-182 and Good Charlotte is that Green Day is aligned heavily with classic punk and classic rock. Modern "punk" sounds nothing like original punk. It's essentially pop with electric guitars. Green Day sounds like the Sex Pistols and the Ramones. They have the same feel to their music, plus actual vocal talent and varied sounds within their music. 

I would argue that plenty of people love Cobain, probably more than they should. Most of his biggest "fans" just love Teen Spirit and really have no idea about the other much better music he wrote. They like him because he's edgy, not bc Nirvana was a good band. 

So yeah, indie and alt fit under the rock umbrella, but they really don't embody the "rock" genre of the past century. Even Black Keys got terrible trying to catch a ride on the indie fangirl bandwagon. I honestly think people only like this genre bc they hate rock and are afraid to say they only like Top 40 music out of fear of being uncool.

[Ham Pascale]

14 hours ago, SmoothedOut said:

I think I'd love anything they put out now. When I got into rock in the last decade, I did not dig the emo scene/culture. Although Green Day were one of those eyeliner-sporting bands that were the subject of much hate, I sensed in them what I thought captured the spirit of rock n'roll: FUN and DANGER. Sure enough, Green Day got me looking at older rock music: AC/DC, the Who, the Sex Pistols, etc. Basically all the bands in the School of Rock. I think they shared characteristics in the theatrical sense, they captured the audience with their appearance and antics on-stage. Forgive me if I'm breaking away from a critique of just their 'sound', but I think that the greatest bands were those that brought more than just music on-stage.

Almost 2016. It alarms me that rock music in the mainstream has declined drastically in so little time. When UNO came out in 2012, I was relieved that a huge band like Green Day was going back-to-basics sound-wise and I thought it was going to be the start of something new. But iHeart Radio happened and I don't think the Trilogy reached enough places to make the impact I expected. Punk is now nowhere in the mainstream.

It appears that (where I'm from at least), 'Indie Music' has risen from the ashes of those 2000s bands. I'll say that I'm happy for this because back in the 2000s, the Strokes and the Arctic Monkeys were the only few bands who were young and played rock n' roll music. They were much like Green Day in that they did not have overly distorted guitars or extremely whiney vocals. I was listening to them when others were content with Story of the Year, Yellowcard, and Good Charlotte. They didn't dress like emos either, they weren't mainstream, and certainly didn't whine about their break-ups. Green Day should have been at the forefront of this movement as they always had this rock and roll edge to them that I feel their 2000s contemporaries didn't, and their break-away from that mainstream punk rock scene with the Trilogy was the first of its kind. Now indie is mainstream and Green Day is nowhere to be found. Why? Rock N' Roll was always supposed to be dangerous but why are the Ramones, Sex Pistols, or Green Day nowhere to be found when that music has returned, sound-wise at least?

SORRY FOR THE LONG POST

but I just think that 'rock music' right now is too safe. You get pop fans who say they like rock music when they really just listen to the Arctic Monkeys... and nothing louder than that. Sound-wise, maybe volume does not matter but what about life-style associated with that music? Penny-boards are fine but skateboards are too dangerous. Its like indie kids have become the new hippies. They just smoke weed, talk about love and shit, but never get anything done. And I know people will say "its always like this, theres good music in the underground". But I find that kids, more so than ever, aren't discovering Kurt Cobain anymore and it's worrying.

Again, this is how its like where I'm from. Anyone have opinions on the current state of rock music in their locations?

I disagree with absolutely everything. Rock music decline was made up by who 90's kids who can't come to terms with the fact that they are out of touch with what's cool anymore and refuse to accept that your rock idols are not spoon-fed to you by MTV and major labels. Are Sex Pistols dangerous? Just as edgy and dangerous as an old man swinging his fist in anger. Sex Pistols are practically 5SOS of the 70's. Are Nirvana dangerous? Nope, a heroin-slamming pseudo-artist with larger-than-life ego with his backing band is not. Nirvana's "genius" is nothing more than a marketing strategy to make you buy Nirvana biographies and watch crap like Montage of Heck (which I absolutely despise).

90's kids are like the burned-out hippies of 60's. They complaing about music "these days", but absolutely refuse to change anything.

Anyway, this is how it is in my area. Everyone listens to old shit. If it's old, then it's perfect af. If it's punk - then it's Sex Pistols, if it's grunge - then it's Nirvana, if it's just plain rock - then it's time to raid your parents' record collection. And a typical rock band is just four super macho 40-somethings with unkempt long hair who think they are beyond cool. And a typical scenester here geniunely thinks that rock music is the best, and put themselves above just about everyone because they own an Iron Maiden T-shirt and a pair of combat boots. That's why I'm not touching them with a ten foot pole. Too fucking sad. Barely anyone who owns a Penny board and smokes weed likes indie, though.

[Private Ale.]

16 hours ago, SmoothedOut said:

 But I find that kids, more so than ever, aren't discovering Kurt Cobain anymore and it's worrying.

Again, this is how its like where I'm from. Anyone have opinions on the current state of rock music in their locations?

I disagree.The nirvana hype was never fair ,it was always exaggerated and especially living in an area where it was everywhere,i prayed a lot for it to end.I still do actually.Don't get me wrong,i don't hate them.I just think they are overshadowing other artists so much.So many kids are Nirvana fans just to be cool.I was a teenager once so i tried to love them just to be cool as my friends.I didn't like it, and once i stopped pretending that i do, i was not so cool in my school for that fact.

 

If people want Rock to rise again, that shouldn't happen with Nirvana,in fact people should realize how many undeserved credit they gave to them.But if people actually expand their band choices,listen to different bands without worying about being cool ,i think that's a great way to "keep rock alive."

 

Also,the hatred for eyeliner is fake and prejudiced ,i guess it only doesn't work for nirvana.I realized how angry i am for all exaggerated credit they got.I should  stop now.

[Hero_Of_The_Hour]

Reading some of the comments on here is making my eyes bleed. I wonder if people realise they should not make generalised statements about millions of people such as all fans of a certain band believe blah or all kids from a certain era do/listen only to blah. It really does sound dumb because you can't sweep up millions of people and label them all the same or claim to know what they believe or feel or even listen to every day!

[WhiteTim]

3 hours ago, Private Ale. said:

I disagree.The nirvana hype was never fair ,it was always exaggerated and especially living in an area where it was everywhere,i prayed a lot for it to end.I still do actually.Don't get me wrong,i don't hate them.I just think they are overshadowing other artists so much.So many kids are Nirvana fans just to be cool.I was a teenager once so i tried to love them just to be cool as my friends.I didn't like it, and once i stopped pretending that i do, i was not so cool in my school for that fact.

 

If people want Rock to rise again, that shouldn't happen with Nirvana,in fact people should realize how many undeserved credit they gave to them.But if people actually expand their band choices,listen to different bands without worying about being cool ,i think that's a great way to "keep rock alive."

 

Also,the hatred for eyeliner is fake and prejudiced ,i guess it only doesn't work for nirvana.I realized how angry i am for all exaggerated credit they got.I should  stop now.

But yet Nirvana changed rock and what band has done that since? Teen Spirit was so huge that country stations jazz stations and even a few oldies stations were forced to play it no rock band has done that since 

4 hours ago, Ham Pascale said:

watch crap like Montage of Heck (which I absolutely despise).

Why do you despise MOH?