gaslight13 Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 I don't feel like his voice has ever been consistently struggling enough to warrant a "recovery". The only time I've been concerned was with Still Breathing at times earlier in the year. However, it seems like that was asthma related because once he started using the inhaler it seemed to really improve. He sounded great on that song this past August/September when I saw them a few times. I don't think he's wrecked his lungs necessarily since he can still sing currently. I'm more worried about all those years of abuse leading to something more serious developing that can't be fixed by an inhaler. It'll be interesting (and scary) though to see how his voice changes (or doesn't) in the coming years.
Brooklyn Baby Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 I thought we all agreed way back when that Billie sounded rlly good in 2010-ish because he did vocal training while he was on Broadway in the musical and that he's declined since then because he stopped giving a single fuck about that Broadway shit, like a real punk should.
Chin for a Day Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 At both my shows, hubby thought he was lip syncing since he sounded so good.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 *yawn pls not this again. He really doesn't sound bad enough for it to justify 10 pages of debate 1 hour ago, Linda1979 said: It’s a nebulizer or a breathing treatment not vaping. I’m not sure why he said vaping. It's called a "joke"
jengd Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 I don’t really get this either, SB is a really difficult song to sing and I think he just got better at it. He sounded fantastic when we saw them in February, he is human and some days his voice will sound better than others.
Asik Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 No his voice will never be as good as it was in 2009-2010. He is just getting old. Well it still sounds good
Linda1979 Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Billie Joe Armstrong said: *yawn pls not this again. He really doesn't sound bad enough for it to justify 10 pages of debate It's called a "joke" I know it was joke I should of been more clear about that so I wouldn’t of received sarcasm for it. All I said was that asthma could cause problems with his voice it wasn’t meant to start another debate I was stating a fact.
Schlappy Posted December 15, 2017 Posted December 15, 2017 19 hours ago, Asik said: No his voice will never be as good as it was in 2009-2010. He is just getting old. Well it still sounds good He doesnt sound as good the older he gets but apparently his best singing was when he was almost forty? Hmmm. I think being involved with the musical at the time effected they way he sang around 2009-10. But like you said he sounds good now. Hes always had his highs and lows 21 hours ago, Brooklyn Baby said: I thought we all agreed way back when that Billie sounded rlly good in 2010-ish because he did vocal training while he was on Broadway in the musical and that he's declined since then because he stopped giving a single fuck about that Broadway shit, like a real punk should. Wow.
The Bellie Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 It amuses me that this thread was started in early 2015 while I think Billie's voice has never been better than in 2017. I'm pretty much amazed by the variations in his voice that were noticeable through this tour, and I must say the raspy voice is not my least favorite.
grene cniht Posted December 17, 2017 Posted December 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Kuromignonne said: It amuses me that this thread was started in early 2015 while I think Billie's voice has never been better than in 2017. The OP was a huge troll. He would just find plesure coming on here to bash the band and try to get on people's nerves.
Miko Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 I'm 100 % sure that his voice was it's peak in 21CB-era. It will never top that and it will never sounds as amazing as it was, but that doesn't mean his current voice sucks. I still love his voice from trilogy records, but something changed during his rehab and his voice was awful and weak during 2013 when Green Day visited in Finland. You can blame drugs and alcohol, but after 2012 his voice has always been lower and more quiet than 2009-2012. I still watch GD-live show's in 2017 and they sound awesome; just little more weaker than 21CB-era, but nothing to be worry about. And yes, i'm drunk so forgive me for errors and shit.
Guest Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 I will always think his voice is amazing. Of course it will alter over the years but at least he isn't like Shania Twain who's voice was permanently changed forever after a disorder. I like how his voice stands out from most rock bands and can be always recognized. So can't we just all be happy and grateful?
jengd Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 6 hours ago, missmiley said: I will always think his voice is amazing. Of course it will alter over the years but at least he isn't like Shania Twain who's voice was permanently changed forever after a disorder. I like how his voice stands out from most rock bands and can be always recognized. So can't we just all be happy and grateful? Totally agree, I think Billie’s voice is always instantly recognisable, I love his voice in all its incarnations.
Guest Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 My favorite vocal era is 39/Smooth. It was the first original and raw material they ever produced and during this time, Billie still had his typical antics in his voice before any alterations or enhancers were added in the studio production phase.
Toms Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 15 minutes ago, missmiley said: My favorite vocal era is 39/Smooth. It was the first original and raw material they every produced and during this time, Billie still had his typical antics in his voice before any alterations or enhancers were added in the studio production phase. YES! I'm not sure if it's my favourite but I do love it. It is very different and just works with songs so well. I wonder what it would sound like if Billie decided to redo them.
LaughingClock Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 On 3/28/2015 at 3:40 AM, Hermione said: Billie's had alcohol problems for years (been openly saying so since at least Nimrod times), the trilogy era wasn't the only time he was drinking and taking drugs, it just happened to be the time he realized he was overdoing it and got some help with it. And his voice sounded totally fine on the last tour (as well as on Foreverly - some of the best singing he's ever done!) to me. Really don't get what people are on about when they say his voice is bad now Agree. WHAT IN THE FUCK is the OP talking about? Go listen to David Lee Roth, or Axl Rose and you'll hear what bad sounds like. Billie, for any age, has an exceptional voice (at least as it pertains to live music and recreating his voice from studio). With all due respect, .... I'll just leave it there. Let's see, randomly and quick searches. This And Billie's "below par" voice. WTF? You guys need to start enjoying GD for what they are and stop nit picking because they aint gonna be around forever. Its amazing how much time and good music and live performances we've had. THANK THE LORD how much they love each other. THANK THE LORD Billie writes like s Jedi fucking master. THANK THE LORD he has built nice calluses on his fingers. THANK THE LORD he was built like a little tiny Sherman tank and fuck the OP. His voice is just fine. I bet you are one of the people that judge Paul McCartney's beautiful voice ever though he's still rocking while pushing 80. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT? Put on your seatbelt and enjoy the ride but don't start threads complaining about it for fuck's sake. Im out of the country so I'm not gonna read this shit but I can't believe there is 6 pages discussing it. You'll never be satisfied:
Jesus of Seneca Posted December 23, 2017 Posted December 23, 2017 8 hours ago, missmiley said: I will always think his voice is amazing. Of course it will alter over the years but at least he isn't like Shania Twain who's voice was permanently changed forever after a disorder. I like how his voice stands out from most rock bands and can be always recognized. So can't we just all be happy and grateful? I think 'happy' and 'grateful' are a bit much to ask from this place
deleteduser7593 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 ...I think, honestly, that the main problem is NOT that much about his voice ''going older'' or tired and stuff BUT about HOW he uses it. Our hero seems to lose all of his breath after 10 seconds of the 1st song of set. And NOT 'cause he's 44, 45 or 46. He shouts. And that's ok, sometimes, when you wanna scream something to the crowd in a sort of ''energic'' way. If you do it when you sing, spitting every letter harder than you can, well, you easily end up stranded before the chorus starts. That's what I think. I could be wrong. Let me know about you, in the meantime.
Z J Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 He's had trouble standing out over the mix for the last 5 years or so, and yeah after all of that touring I'd guess his vocal cords are pretty fried. In a lot of ways the screaming/yelling is a way to avoid missing the actual notes because he can't hit them loud enough (or perhaps can't hit them at all. My hope has always been that Green Day goes in a more stripped down route in the future, for Billie's sake but also because down-tempo is Green Day's wheelhouse for making hit songs.
deleteduser7593 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 I tried, for years, to sing in a sort of much ''powerful'' way 'cause I couldn't stand and accept the ''weakness'' (turned into ''sweetness'' when I learned how to use it) of my voice. Then I realized I can sing SO MUCH BETTER without destroying it (screaming, shouting) pretending to hear something that wasn't me. Billie Joe has a way stronger voice than mine but I used to do the same mistake. He doesn't even need to turn the volume up (torturing his throath) to get a biggest ''sound''. He has quite good bass frequencies in his vocal range. And mid and high spots too. You can hear it in all of Green Day's discography. C'mon, soulmate, you're ma' star 3 minutes ago, Z J said: He's had trouble standing out over the mix for the last 5 years or so, and yeah after all of that touring I'd guess his vocal cords are pretty fried. In a lot of ways the screaming/yelling is a way to avoid missing the actual notes because he can't hit them loud enough (or perhaps can't hit them at all. My hope has always been that Green Day goes in a more stripped down route in the future, for Billie's sake but also because down-tempo is Green Day's wheelhouse for making hit songs. Remember that TV performance for ''Good RIddance'' with ''alternate'' lyrics? He's so SWEET, IN TUNE and MARVELOUS! And he's not even trying to be good, he is. If you hear it live, he seems to force himself even for an easy song like that one. I don't know.
Sarcasm Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 what did you expect, he ain't old but he isn't exactly young either, at least in body. In his head he'll always be an angry teenager and thats where the good shit comes from anyway.
Hermione Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, disappearingfs said: ...I think, honestly, that the main problem is NOT that much about his voice ''going older'' or tired and stuff BUT about HOW he uses it. Our hero seems to lose all of his breath after 10 seconds of the 1st song of set. And NOT 'cause he's 44, 45 or 46. He shouts. And that's ok, sometimes, when you wanna scream something to the crowd in a sort of ''energic'' way. If you do it when you sing, spitting every letter harder than you can, well, you easily end up stranded before the chorus starts. That's what I think. I could be wrong. Let me know about you, in the meantime. Your thread is pretty much a continuation of the discussion in this one so I've merged yours with it. I'm not the biggest fan of the title or OP of this one but seems the sensible thing to do. Discussion of Billie's allegedly worsening singing voice can carry on here.
BilIie Joe Armstrong Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Z J said: down-tempo is Green Day's wheelhouse for making hit songs. This is the single wrongest sentence in history of GDC.
jengd Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 On 23/12/2017 at 2:31 PM, LaughingClock said: Agree. WHAT IN THE FUCK is the OP talking about? Go listen to David Lee Roth, or Axl Rose and you'll hear what bad sounds like. Billie, for any age, has an exceptional voice (at least as it pertains to live music and recreating his voice from studio). With all due respect, .... I'll just leave it there. Let's see, randomly and quick searches. This And Billie's "below par" voice. WTF? You guys need to start enjoying GD for what they are and stop nit picking because they aint gonna be around forever. Its amazing how much time and good music and live performances we've had. THANK THE LORD how much they love each other. THANK THE LORD Billie writes like s Jedi fucking master. THANK THE LORD he has built nice calluses on his fingers. THANK THE LORD he was built like a little tiny Sherman tank and fuck the OP. His voice is just fine. I bet you are one of the people that judge Paul McCartney's beautiful voice ever though he's still rocking while pushing 80. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT? Put on your seatbelt and enjoy the ride but don't start threads complaining about it for fuck's sake. Im out of the country so I'm not gonna read this shit but I can't believe there is 6 pages discussing it. You'll never be satisfied: YES. Could not agree more. So happy to quote you in the hope people read your response again. I wonder if people have got so used to special effects/perfect recordings and miming that they can’t recognise genuine, human performances?
deleteduser7593 Posted January 5, 2018 Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Hermione said: Your thread is pretty much a continuation of the discussion in this one so I've merged yours with it. I'm not the biggest fan of the title or OP of this one but seems the sensible thing to do. Discussion of Billie's allegedly worsening singing voice can carry on here. Sorry, I'm totally ok with Billie Joe, I love him and always will. I'm not a part of the ''un-satisfied users agenda'' (), just shared my thoughts 'bout this topic, I would NEVER give power or support to something against him or Green Day in general. I like discussion if there's an interesting argument, I'd do the same with the guys too about songs and stuff and I'm pretty sure they, as mature and great musicians, would appreciate. A lil' bit more than the casual ''oh my god i love you so much!'', at least PS: What ''OP'' stands for? X'0
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