Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[Tre_Archer]

 

I do think 21CB pales slightly in comparison to AI, but that's not to say that it's a sucky album. Sure it doesn't have a clearer linear storyline like AI, but I think the concept still works, even if it seems between the lines that the band was trying to replicate what they did in AI. The only real gripe I have with 21CB is pretty much on the technical side of things: the thing being somewhat kinda overproduced - Billie's voice sounding kinda filtered or something.

 

Yeah 21CB certainly pales, because AI was a fucking masterpiece, one of the defining albums of the 2000s. 

[WhiteTim]

I do think 21CB pales slightly in comparison to AI, but that's not to say that it's a sucky album. Sure it doesn't have a clearer linear storyline like AI, but I think the concept still works, even if it seems between the lines that the band was trying to replicate what they did in AI. The only real gripe I have with 21CB is pretty much on the technical side of things: the thing being somewhat kinda overproduced - Billie's voice sounding kinda filtered or something.

Billie has been using filters since Nimrod/Warning (and really every album as any album with vocals has some kind of filters used during the mixing and master phrase) 

 

but on 21st the filter was supposed to be appearent 

 

if if you listen to the AI Acapellas you'll hear the same filters that was used on 21st 

[Steven Seagull]

Yeah 21CB certainly pales, because AI was a fucking masterpiece, one of the defining albums of the 2000s. 

It pales but not because AI is a "masterpiece" but because it's just that bad. Also AI is full of "try to hard" generic songs with the "oh we hate war" theme all over, not to mention the awful singles like JOS. Wake Me Up When September Ends was the only good song on there.

P.S. Keep in mind that I am a notorious AI hater on GDC

[The Disappearing Boy]

Classic Seagull.

[Akshat Jain]

not to mention the awful singles like JOS.

0_0 0_0.. JOS and Awful? looks like it's your Alarm Tone or something..!!

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

It pales but not because AI is a "masterpiece" but because it's just that bad. Also AI is full of "try to hard" generic songs with the "oh we hate war" theme all over, not to mention the awful singles like JOS. Wake Me Up When September Ends was the only good song on there.
P.S. Keep in mind that I am a notorious AI hater on GDC

Besides Holiday, what songs do you classify as anti-war? Also, have you seen the video for WMUWSE? You can't get more anti-war than that.

Edited August 9, 2015 by AlissaGoesRAWR

[Chin for a Day]

What is so bad about an anti-war song, as long as it is done well.  Holiday is done well.

[Z J]

Yes, god forbid a song touches on one of the most impactful and harmful constructs that humanity has, war. I'd much rather hear another love song 

[The Disappearing Boy]

one of the most impactful and harmful constructs that humanity has

Some might argue that describes love too

[Z J]

Some might argue that describes love too

Touche, my friend, touche. 

[Guest]

[Akshat Jain]

Some might argue that describes love too

They should probably be writing about "Enlightenment" then.  

How about Tre getting inside that?

[Tre_Archer]

It pales but not because AI is a "masterpiece" but because it's just that bad. Also AI is full of "try to hard" generic songs with the "oh we hate war" theme all over, not to mention the awful singles like JOS. Wake Me Up When September Ends was the only good song on there.
P.S. Keep in mind that I am a notorious AI hater on GDC

None of the songs (except Holiday) were anti war, at all. I would agree most have a political theme to go along with the JOS narrative (which is very good imo), they're not anti war. I don't understand, what did you want the album to be like? Dookie was 10 years ago at this point. Billie Joe was older, Green Day was older. They weren't able to make a song like Longview anymore cause that's not who they were anymore. Also, 2004 was a much different America than 1994. America was still reeling from 9/11. They had to make an album to define the times like they did with Dookie, and AI very much defined the times. I guess I can't convince you that AI wasn't bad; as you say you're notorious for that opinion. But just my perspective on AI. 

 

P.S. I didn't know there are people that exist that didn't like THE 9 minute masterpiece o_o 

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

P.S. I didn't know there are people that exist that didn't like THE 9 minute masterpiece o_o 

There aren't. There are seagulls.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

 

 

P.S. I didn't know there are people that exist that didn't like THE 9 minute masterpiece o_o 

Every single time I listen to JOS I think "masterpiece".

[The Disappearing Boy]

Every time I listen to Sweet 16 (never) I think of that guy who said it was better than JOS and how he must be failing at life.

[Steven Seagull]

Every single time I listen to JOS I think "masterpiece".

Boooo

[BilIie Joe Armstrong]

Boooo

the only reason for your saying so can be the fact that birds have no ears. 

[mrtdaddy]

JOS is the best green day song ever, period.

[Tre_Archer]

Boooo

Why don't you like the song? I've never heard this side of things, should be interesting. 

[Ritz]

Oh come on, who the fuck is dissing JOS? 

[Hermione]

I assume there's probably quite a lot of people out there who are fans of Green Day's earlier work and aren't fans of the grander stadium rock American Idiot/21st CB stuff. It's different so liking one doesn't necessarily mean liking the other. I doubt Seagull's the only one . But yeah hearing the reasoning behind the dislike for it would be interesting.

[Guest]

The reason is because people pay attention when you say a controversial thing and it doesn't take much effort.

[The Disappearing Boy]

AI is great album

AI is great album

Well ummm....

[Akshat Jain]

 

Well ummm....

MEMORIES!