Blasphemy & Genocide: Unpopular Green Day Opinions, Part 2

[Hermione]

I think it's just the highest falsetto he's done? I can't think of a time he's sung higher, and 21st CB was the first time he'd really tried to do falsetto aside from maybe on some Foxboro songs so it must've been a challenge. If I recall right he mostly attempted it near the beginning of the tour/when they first started playing it live and tended to do it less later, I guess it's just difficult (although I love him doing it perfect or not ). Even though it was quite late in the setlist I don't think that would've affected his ability much since as Ceadog mentions he's skipped it even when it's the only song he's singing, and also since he's able to do stuff like hanging on a strong "hey oh" for 30 seconds near the end of shows too, and I've just never really noticed his voice get much weaker as shows go on in general.

[Z J]

Interesting. I've heard him hit falsetto's live. Why not on 21 Guns. I'm not a singer but I wonder if it is just a hard song to sing.

It's a lot to do live, he proves he can do it at the end of the AAF version. But the live version is less soft, has more of a hard edge with the amped up guitars. So that great full-voice note he keeps hitting fits with the live version better, imo

[Anaïs.]

The problem with it is is that it drowns out the guitar. Drowning out Jason White is never good. Perhaps they ought to do one after the other when they do it live. More Jasons can only be good

How is Jason W. at all special enough that we miss anything by his being drowned out?

[Maid Meringue]

Putting in my two-cents about the 21stCB demo: I like it more than the album version and I will never let it go. I remember being completely heartbroken when the album came out and the song was changed. I guess I just didn't understand at the time what demo meant, but the lyrics are twice as good compared to what they released. The vocals were spot on too. That album version is weak in comparison.

My name is no-one, the long lost son, born on the 4th of July.
Raised in the bygones of heroes and cons, that left me for dead or alive.
There is a war that's inside my head that questions the results and lies,
I'm breaking my back till I'm damn near well dead, when enough ain't enough to survive.
I am my nation, a worker, a pawn
My debt to the status quo.
These scars on my hands and a means to an end, is all that I have to show.
I'm taking a loan on my sanity for the redemption of my soul,
but I am exempt from the tragedy and the 21st century fall.
Praise Liberty.

fucking ace man.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

21 Guns is better without the falsetto anyway.

[Certified Nimrod]

How is Jason W. at all special enough that we miss anything by his being drowned out?

My jimmies have been properly rustled by this post.

[Hermione]

How is Jason W. at all special enough that we miss anything by his being drowned out?

[Z J]

Graham is right though, Jason does nothing special. People on here just "love" him because its ironic

[Todd]

the WhiteTim emoticon would be appropriate too

[Sauli]

Graham is right though, Jason does nothing special. People on here just "love" him because its ironic

Postmodern life is rubbish. Why can't we like him without irony?

[Anaïs.]

My jimmies have been properly rustled by this post.

I'd be more than happy to have you tell me why I'm wrong and why he isn't as completely average as Billie!

[The Disappearing Boy]

I'd be more than happy to have you tell me why I'm wrong and why he isn't as completely average as Billie!

I just like his cool, understated nature. He seems to be happy to stay in the background a little and let everyone else fuss. I guess I like that cos I'm a bit like that. But I think White deserves a bit more of the limelight, which is why he shouldn't be drowned out.

[Certified Nimrod]

I'd be more than happy to have you tell me why I'm wrong and why he isn't as completely average as Billie!

Jason's a better guitar player than you. Bye.

[Hermione]

Graham is right though, Jason does nothing special. People on here just "love" him because its ironic

He's a great guitar player, singer and songwriter and his personality and understated performance style on stage is badass, and I'm a fan of his contributions to several excellent bands. Some people here might say they "love" him ironically now but that's just a silly new fad, some of us really love him

I just like his cool, understated nature. He seems to be happy to stay in the background a little and let everyone else fuss. I guess I like that cos I'm a bit like that. But I think White deserves a bit more of the limelight, which is why he shouldn't be drowned out.

Yeah I like that, he's there to play the music and isn't bothered about getting the attention on himself which is refreshing. But you can still see how much he enjoys playing which is really cool, and it means when he does do something extra to entertain it seems more special. Like when my sister and I were being silly waving at him during a show and he gave us a cool nod of acknowledgement it was great , or when we noticed him hip thrusting during St Jimmy once or doing a belly dance at the Foxboro show lol, or just when he does the awesome frantic guitar playing at the end of BOBD. I really enjoy watching him live, he's entertaining in his own subtle way and I'm equally happy to be on his side as Mike's.

[Anaïs.]

Jason's a better guitar player than you. Bye.

I never said he wasn't.

[Anaïs.]

I had my iTunes on shuffle in the car earlier and "Are We The Waiting" merged into "Haushinka" and well, it was amazing and now I want them to do that in concert.

Oh my god that sounds perfect.

[Certified Nimrod]

I never said he wasn't.

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Seriously, go listen to it! The pitch on Haushinka would need to be changed a bit for it to really flow seamlessly but it would be epic.

I'm going to try to find a way to make this flow better.

[Z J]

I just like his cool, understated nature. He seems to be happy to stay in the background a little and let everyone else fuss. I guess I like that cos I'm a bit like that. But I think White deserves a bit more of the limelight, which is why he shouldn't be drowned out.

None of that had anything to do with his actual guitar playing

He's a great guitar player, singer and songwriter and his personality and understated performance style on stage is badass, and I'm a fan of his contributions to several excellent bands. Some people here might say they "love" him ironically now but that's just a silly new fad, some of us really love him

Postmodern life is rubbish. Why can't we like him without irony?

WHY CANT I JUST COME IN THE UNPOPULAR OPINIONS THREAD AND STATE MY OPINIONS WITHOUT BEING HARASSED. ITS JUST MY OPINION FFS YOU CAN'T ARGUE IT.

/every new person that joins this thread with a shitty opinion

[Hermione]

He's a solid backup singer. He's a solid guitarist. And he hasn't written much of anything for Green Day, has he? His side projects don't really matter here because this is about his contributions to Green Day.

And I know that a lot of people actually do love him, I was half-kidding

Well that's true but I outlined why I enjoy him onstage with Green Day too. He isn't only a solid backup singer outside Green Day though!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neN8Mch1Frc

Jason White has dead eyes. I know because he bored them into me for 2 hours at a concert. It was disturbing.

Omg trying to catch his eye is one of my favourite things to do at a Green Day show. If you wave at him you can get a bashful little nod of acknowledgement, it's totally great . And the rest of the time you can see him quietly enjoying playing guitar and exchanging glances/having fun with the rest of the band, doesn't seem dead eyed to me.

[Sauli]

Based on the evidence the next thing Green day should do is that they should let Jason write songs, Mike sing and they should fire Billie. I'm only 50% ironic.

[Maid Meringue]

^ Billie can be a stage dancer while the rest of the band plays. I'm OK with this.

[Guest]

If California is anything to go by Jason White should never be allowed to write a song ever again.

[The Disappearing Boy]

None of that had anything to do with his actual guitar playing.

I never said it did

Also, the are we the waiting/haushinka thing is pretty good, that transition needs to be cleaned up though.

Actually, I do think that the jinx/haushinka transition is probably the best one. It's so smooth, you don't immediately realise you've gone to a new song, when you hear it for the first time.

[Todd]

If California is anything to go by Jason White should never be allowed to write a song ever again.

I still need to listen to them.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

Jason White was the first member of Green Day I ever saw in-person, when he was crouching off stage during the opening band. I don't know how I feel about this, because I was ecstatic at the time, but... it's... Jason, y'know?