Oxymore Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I don't even see how putting JB on the cover would even be considered disrespectful to Green Day. (And I guarantee you somewhere in that issue the likes of Bob Dylan, The Beatles, and The Rolling Stones are all mentioned. Is the cover disrespecting them, too?) Just because Billie name-dropped Justin Beiber in a drunken rant once doesn't mean he is particularly meaningful to the Green Day psyche. Billie saying "I'm not fucking Justin Beiber" at iHeart once doesn't mean Green Day has a particular vendetta against him. Billie himself said he hasn't rewatched that rant, so he probably doesn't even recall mentioning Beiber. Fans have attached this quote to the Green Day mantra and built up an anti-Beiber philosophy around Green Day that frankly doesn't exist. Sure, Green Day hates "pop crap" and I'm sure has nothing good to say about Beiber. It doesn't make it "insensitive" to put him on the cover and include a Green Day article inside, though. I'm sure none of the Rolling Stone writers particularly like Beiber either, they're just reporting on a story. And Green Day was in no way expected to get this cover instead, so it's really a non-issue. We all hate Beiber, but that's because he sucks, not because he has done anything to Green Day. I have missed about the whole 4 pages of this thread but I don't think it's the fact that there's JB on the cover and BJ at the same time, just that there's JB on the cover of ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE, I mean...
Heather. Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 I have missed about the whole 4 pages of this thread but I don't think it's the fact that there's JB on the cover and BJ at the same time, just that there's JB on the cover of ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE, I mean... People were saying that JB on the cover is directly disrespectful to Green Day. I was responding to that. Besides, I don't think this is JB's first time on Rolling Stone, and anyway, is this any worse than Miley Cyrus Brittney Spears or any other many shitty pop artist that's been on the cover? Rolling Stone is a good magazine because it DOES put talented rock artists on its cover. But to delude yourself into thinking it has EVER been above putting lesser artists is ridiculous and anyone who is irate right now about their choice to put JB on clearly doesn't live in reality.
desertrose Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 How long is the article, is it a lot more than the preview we got? The article is filled with some old photos, which are not new, just what we have seen from the Dookie era. It is 4 pages with a double page of full photo of them in the trunk of the car. Article titled: "The Dookie Chronicles: 20 years later Green Day look back at the album that took punk from the gutter to MTV" Here is some from the article Green Day's roots in hardcore Berkeley ran deep. But when Green Day signed to Reprise, backlash was quick and vicious, Gilman Street banned the trio from the premises. And Armstrong tells a story from that confusing period, when he had a big record deal but none of the money yet. Armstrong went to a party a Berkeley squat with his then-girlfriend (immortalized in Dookie's "She"), an armload of beer and several loaves of fresh bread found in a dumpster. "I walked in ," he says, "and this guy goes, "This is that motherfucker from Green Day. He's signed to a corporation. You're a fucking fascist." Armstrong ended up coming to blows with the accuser, before they were separated. " I dropped the bread, kept the beer and left. I was fuming." Now he sounds sad. "Our career was opening up. But this thing that was so important to me was shutting down." About songwriting: "Dookie in turn was just telling the truth", Armstrong insists. "I looked at these songs like,"If I can get these songs down on paper, what I'm feeling, at least I'll know what's going on with myself" he quotes the opening line in "Burnout" -"I declare I don't care no more" - and acknowledges the suicidal tendencies in "Having a Blast", a song about wanting to blow yourself up because you're going through some kind of torment. They shelved a surefire hit. Armstrong had a bleakly wistful ballad, "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)" that he wrote in 1993 and presented to the others for Dookie. Cavallo and the band felt it was wrong for this album. "It didn't fit" Cavallo said. Another part talking about the anniversdary of Dookie Green Day marked Dookie's 20th birthday a little early, playing the whole album in sequence at two British shows last year. but they have been performing much of the record live, at every show, since it came out. " I will play 'She' for the rest of my life", Armstrong promises. " I love that song, and I think it has aged well with me. "Basket Case" too, for the opposite reason -it's about other people now. When I look at people as we play that song, they're having their own moment. At that point, I'm the audience. "I am just do fucking grateful for that album", he says, practically shouting his thanks. "It's something that keeps giving, keeps sharing. I'll get people saying, "God, that time, that memory -those first five years of the Nineties were so good." Armstrong laughs. "And I'll say, "You're right!" Then he reels off a list of reasons why: Radiohead's "Creep", Nirvana's "smells like teen spirit," Pearl Jam's "Alive", Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun" and boldly, his own "Basket Case." "We got to be a part of something where people were digging deeper into themselves, in rock & roll, more than they had in a long time," Armstrong declares. "and it was noticed."
stuart_and_the_ave Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 The article is filled with some old photos, which are not new, just what we have seen from the Dookie era. It is 4 pages with a double page of full photo of them in the trunk of the car. Article titled: "The Dookie Chronicles: 20 years later Green Day look back at the album that took punk from the gutter to MTV" Here is some from the article Green Day's roots in hardcore Berkeley ran deep. But when Green Day signed to Reprise, backlash was quick and vicious, Gilman Street banned the trio from the premises. And Armstrong tells a story from that confusing period, when he had a big record deal but none of the money yet. Armstrong went to a party a Berkeley squat with his then-girlfriend (immortalized in Dookie's "She"), an armload of beer and several loaves of fresh bread found in a dumpster. "I walked in ," he says, "and this guy goes, "This is that motherfucker from Green Day. He's signed to a corporation. You're a fucking fascist." Armstrong ended up coming to blows with the accuser, before they were separated. " I dropped the bread, kept the beer and left. I was fuming." Now he sounds sad. "Our carrer was opening up. But this thing that was so important to me was shutting down." About songwriting:"Dookie in turn was just telling the truth", Armstrong insists. "I looked at these songs like,"If I can get these songs down on paper, what I'm feeling, at least I'll know what's going on with myself" he quotes the opening line in "Burnout" -"I declare I don't care no more" - and acknowledges the suicidal tendencies in "Having a Blast", a song about wanting to blow yourself up because you're going through some kind of torment. They shelved a surefire hit. Armstrong had a bleakly wistful ballad, "Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)" that he wrote in 1993 and presented to the others for Dookie. Cavallo and the band felt it was wrong for this album. "It didn't fit" Cavallo said. Another part talking about the anniversdary of Dookie Green Day marked Dookie's 20th birthday a little early, playing the whole album in sequence at two British shows last year. but they have been performing much of the record live, at every show, since it came out. " I will play 'She' for the rest of my life", Armstrong promises. " I love that song, and I think it has aged well with me. "Basket Case" too, for the opposite reason -it's about other people now. When I look at people as we play that song, they're having their own moment. At that point, I'm the audience."I am just do fucking grateful for that album", he says, practically shouting his thanks. "It's something that keeps giving, keeps sharing. I'll get people saying, "God, that time, that memory -those first five years of the Nineties were so good." Armstrong laughs. "And I'll say, "You're right!" Then he reels off a list of reasons why: Radiohead's "Creep", Nirvana's "smells like teen spirit," Pearl Jam's "Alive", Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun" and boldly, his own "Basket Case." "We got to be a part of something where people were digging deeper into themselves, in rock & roll, more than they had in a long time," Armstrong declares. "and it was noticed."Thank you for typing that up.I'll keep a loom out for the issue in the UK but I think we are a couple of issue's behind.
Heather. Posted March 2, 2014 Posted March 2, 2014 Hard to believe no one has been able to scan it yet! FYI, there is a great free app for iPhones at least called "Cam Scanner". I've used it to scan legal documents onto my phone. If you have the magazine and a phone, I recommend I also just recommend the app in general
Ellenkc Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 It's been forever since I posted here, but now seems like a good time to quit lurking and post something useful. Here's the interview!
BeachBum Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Thanks for posting. I am going to have to pic it up, because it is a good read.
Whatsinaname Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Thank you for posting this article so I don't have to buy this issue. I know now "disrespectful" is not a word to use on GDC. Please don't come at me...I love all your opinions here
Lu_S Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Kind of weird they refer to Green Day by their last name... Mr. Cool ....it reminds me that they are getting old
beejeezee Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Would have bought this if that cover wasn't so horrid.
Give_Me_Novacaine90 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 It's been forever since I posted here, but now seems like a good time to quit lurking and post something useful. Here's the interview! Thank you so much
Sanity Loan Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 If anyone wants the full issue (or to archive Green Day's article), a PDF version is on a few torrent sites........ so I've heard
halfempty Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 This was a great article, and I actually found out several things I didn't know before about Dookie. It was especially nice that all the guys put in their two cents too. And love that Billie loves She.
desertrose Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Rolling Stone Australia New issue out today! David Fricke goes back in time with Green Day to look at the making of "Dookie" and how it took pop-punk to the top of the charts.
halfempty Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Expensive, $9 for a magazine. Is this only available in Australia?
Mar Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 Bless you, Australians. You care little enough about Bieber that they could justify switching out the covers there <3
Backyard Skulls Posted April 4, 2014 Posted April 4, 2014 I had no idea about this til now What a great read though! Billie has a way with words. Holy shit though the comments, I wonder who was spouting off about Adie
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