Todd Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Walk Away should be a single. That had to have been my least favorite song of Green Day's entire career when I first heard it. I woke up at 5:30 last december, Tre had been released in Australia the previous night, but it wasn't on the web yet, but I knew it'd be all over GDC by morning. So anyways, I got up at 5:30, downloaded it, put it on my ipod, started playing it. Brutal Love, for the first time, was beautiful. It was new. Heard Missing You from cuatro, 8th Ave Serenade from the Echoplex, Drama Queen from the Dos vinyl. X-Kid from Cuatro. Sex Drugs & Violence was new. Loved it. It was like a classic Green Day song. Little Boy Named Train was sorta new, I had only heard the shitty recordings of it from the Tiki Bar, but at that time we all thought that song was Gabriella. Amanda was good, didn't expect the lyric change that they made. But then Walk Away came on, oh boy did that song just suck. Anyways, of course I've warmed up to it now, it took a while to learn to love it, but if a die-hard Green Day fan hated it, I can't even imagine what other people would think of it. Like, seriously. If people hated Oh Love, they'd fucking shoot their radio if they heard Walk Away.
Certified Nimrod Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 That had to have been my least favorite song of Green Day's entire career when I first heard it. I woke up at 5:30 last december, Tre had been released in Australia the previous night, but it wasn't on the web yet, but I knew it'd be all over GDC by morning. So anyways, I got up at 5:30, downloaded it, put it on my ipod, started playing it. Brutal Love, for the first time, was beautiful. It was new. Heard Missing You from cuatro, 8th Ave Serenade from the Echoplex, Drama Queen from the Dos vinyl. X-Kid from Cuatro. Sex Drugs & Violence was new. Loved it. It was like a classic Green Day song. Little Boy Named Train was sorta new, I had only heard the shitty recordings of it from the Tiki Bar, but at that time we all thought that song was Gabriella. Amanda was good, didn't expect the lyric change that they made. But then Walk Away came on, oh boy did that song just suck. Anyways, of course I've warmed up to it now, it took a while to learn to love it, but if a die-hard Green Day fan hated it, I can't even imagine what other people would think of it. Like, seriously. If people hated Oh Love, they'd fucking shoot their radio if they heard Walk Away. Do you still dislike Walk Away?
WhiteTim Posted October 8, 2013 Posted October 8, 2013 Do you still dislike Walk Away? You didn't even read his post did you aside from first sentence? He said he warmed up to it
Spike Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 The reason JOS didn't get much radio play was because the radio edit sucked the life out of it. The edit was terrible and made it sound really unnatural. In the way that, dare I say, the album version of DRB does.
Certified Nimrod Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 You didn't even read his post did you aside from first sentence? He said he warmed up to it Calm down, I missed it.
Clockwise Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Yeah, I don't think we'll be seeing any more singles from the trilogy. Which is alright, the trilogy is one of my favorite things the band has done, but I'm excited for what's to come.
StuckWithInsomnia Posted October 9, 2013 Posted October 9, 2013 Not releasing Stay The Night as the first single was such a bad decision. Its just the obvious pick.
PanicAttack! Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Considering Warning is just a rip off of a shitty Kinks song still did ok as a single... The difference between a rip-off and a tribute is acknowledgement, and at the same time the fact that a rip-off is a matter of opinion and the similarities between those two songs are very trivial, and only apply to the riff. You can promote and make money off of a rip-off because it's yours until proven otherwise, you can't make money off of a tribute because you acknowledge that you do not own part of it.
WhiteTim Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 The difference between a rip-off and a tribute is acknowledgement, and at the same time the fact that a rip-off is a matter of opinion and the similarities between those two songs are very trivial, and only apply to the riff. You can promote and make money off of a rip-off because it's yours until proven otherwise, you can't make money off of a tribute because you acknowledge that you do not own part of it. Brutal Love isn't a tribute it's called sampling there is no such thing as a tribute clearence... And warning was more of a direct rip off than brutal love is but since Ray Davis owns The Kinks publishing and he refuses to sue artists they don't have to worry about a lawsuit
robinlovesbillie Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 well i will love the Single whatever it is Thank you. So. Will. I.
Kayfabe Posted October 10, 2013 Posted October 10, 2013 Would have made a great single. It got EJNed, in my opinion
BradGreenDay Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Lol i have never heard X-kid on the radio, but I have heard Brutal Love on it... Hey Im always down for some Green Day on the radio
PanicAttack! Posted October 11, 2013 Posted October 11, 2013 Brutal Love isn't a tribute it's called sampling there is no such thing as a tribute clearence... And warning was more of a direct rip off than brutal love is but since Ray Davis owns The Kinks publishing and he refuses to sue artists they don't have to worry about a lawsuit I think you missed my point entirely. Whatever which definition, it is the essence of what Brutal Love is compared to Warning. The band itself acknowledged, in the credits to the song, that the similarity to "Bring It On Home To Me" was intentional. They could then go on and release it as a single, but it would get torn apart by the public because you do not just take someone else's classic material, repackage it, and then release it as your own. It's best off as a more subtle album-track in that case. Warning is arguably a small rip-off, but not enough to take away any full right of ownership from Green Day. Warning in its entirety is not that close to "Picture Book", there's the similar riff, but it's not a riff that is so unique that other musicians couldn't have had come up with something similar completely independent of The Kinks. Brutal Love took a very distinct and unique melody from Sam Cooke, that would've been undeniable in any case.
Spike Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 I think Brutal Love and Warning are two different things entirely. Obviously Brutal Love is a tribute, but it's only the vocal melody that's the same, and I see nothing wrong with doing that kind of thing. Hell, I've done it myself. And anyway, the best bit of the song is the original bit at the end! With Warning, obviously it is similar to that Kinks song, but it's absolutely nothing creative. It's just up and down the A major scale in straight quavers, it's essentially a warmup exercise. In that respect I think the similarities are just coincidental.
Guest Posted October 14, 2013 Posted October 14, 2013 Rusty James would be even a worse single than Oh Love was... This. Even though I like the song quite a bit, Rusty James lacks a real hook and tends to meander. Bad idea for a single. Not releasing Stay The Night as the first single was such a bad decision. Its just the obvious pick. Even more this. Stay the Night is the best song on the trilogy, and it's not even close. Oh Love is another case of good song, bad single, especially terrible single given that it doesn't work without the musical context of Uno around it. I still think that STN should have been positioned as the new Minority in terms of concert placement, radio airplay and anthemic status.
sara_gd Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 I think you missed my point entirely. Whatever which definition, it is the essence of what Brutal Love is compared to Warning. The band itself acknowledged, in the credits to the song, that the similarity to "Bring It On Home To Me" was intentional. They could then go on and release it as a single, but it would get torn apart by the public because you do not just take someone else's classic material, repackage it, and then release it as your own. It's best off as a more subtle album-track in that case. Warning is arguably a small rip-off, but not enough to take away any full right of ownership from Green Day. Warning in its entirety is not that close to "Picture Book", there's the similar riff, but it's not a riff that is so unique that other musicians couldn't have had come up with something similar completely independent of The Kinks. Brutal Love took a very distinct and unique melody from Sam Cooke, that would've been undeniable in any case. Wow I didn't know this, I just checked the last page of the Tré book and in tiny little letters it says this: All music by Green Day except "Brutal Love" writen by Billie Joe Armstrong and Sam Cooke. All songs @2012 WB Music Corp/ Green Daze music adm. by WB Music Corp. (ASCAP) except "Brutal Love" @2012 WB Music Corp/ Green Daze music adm. by WB Music Corp. (ASCAP)/ ABKCO Music Inc. (BMI). This has also been discused in this thread: http://www.greendaycommunity.org/topic/91405-the-awesome-similarity-between-brutal-love-and-bring-it-home-to-me/
Akshat Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 Brutal Love and The Forgotten are not bad choices but 8th ave serenade, drb, amanda, 99 revolutions are better choices
Sanity Loan Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 The only way I see another trilogy single is if they release one for their Australia tour. Even then, I think they'd only do it if they plan on doing more shows after Australia. The trilogy era just needs to be done.
The Disappearing Boy Posted October 18, 2013 Posted October 18, 2013 I'm pretty certain this era is done. They'll play the shows in Australia, which'll probably be a mini greatest-hits tour, and then either follow that up with a Dookie celebration tour or new material.
Countrygirl Posted October 19, 2013 Posted October 19, 2013 Love that song. Wouldn't be a bad single.
desertrose Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Would have been nice to have had this as a single.
That Dude Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Does anything from trilogy get airtime in the States ?? In my town, I heard "Oh Love" and "Let Yourself Go" on the radio multiple times. and then...nothing. The only Green Day songs I really hear on the radio frequently are "Basketcase", "Longview" and "Good Riddance". Mostly just "Basketcase". I think even with Billie in rehab, they could have released a ton of singles to the radio to promote the trilogy. Here's my picks for singles. They are not necessarily my favorite songs off each album, but the ones that would be successful on the radio, in my opinion. (Brutal Love is in my list for sure). Stay the Night Let Yourself Go Kill the DJ Sweet 16 F(woo) Time Lazy Bones Stray Heart Nightlife Brutal Love Missing You X-Kid 99 Revolutions
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