Trilogy not "good enough" for Radio One

[WhiteTim]

Green day should do an "In Utero" for their next album just because...

Billie been talking about doing an In Utero (recording style) since AI but has yet to pull the gun

[Beezey]

Not really, Live Lounge is generally about who is popular at the moment. I've got all the albums. The only alternative artists tend to be the ones doing well in the charts at the time, like Kings of Leon and Coldplay. Maybe one or two indie sounding bands… but they'll have been tipped off as being the next big thing. It IS all about popular music trends.

yeah, fair point. But they arent getting radio play on Kerrang as much either. But I could be wrong.

Billie been talking about doing an In Utero (recording style) since AI but has yet to pull the gun

Recording Style underline - hmmmm not sure what is meant by that - must find out. If is is some techinque or live recording or something - Pull the gun.

[JackInABox86]

Sorry but just because the "shitty pop music" is not good enough for you, doesn't mean it's not good enough for the radio, I happen to like that "deep house stuff" more than the trilogy so suck on that one.

[Beezey]

Sorry but just because the "shitty pop music" is not good enough for you, doesn't mean it's not good enough for the radio, I happen to like that "deep house stuff" more than the trilogy so suck on that one.

Yeah sure, there are some catchy tunes. I liked Lady Gaga and Katy Perry singles.

[Caractériel]

I personally couldn't care less what Radio1 deem 'good enough' for airplay as I despise mainstream Radio anyway. They can keep force feeding people the same old shit for all I care, and I'm sure the band wouldn't lose any sleep over it. The top 40 charts is not an indicator of quality after all.

[The Disappearing Boy]

To be fair it's kinda true. I quite like the trilogy, but compared to their other albums it, well, doesn't compare. I can't blame them for saying that.

[WhiteTim]

yeah, fair point. But they arent getting radio play on Kerrang as much either. But I could be wrong.

Recording Style underline - hmmmm not sure what is meant by that - must find out. If is is some techinque or live recording or something - Pull the gun.

It was done live as 99% of Steve Albini recordings are hence albums he does are credited with recording by steve albini instead of produced by

[Beezey]

To be fair it's kinda true. I quite like the trilogy, but compared to their other albums it, well, doesn't compare. I can't blame them for saying that.

unfortunately, didnt Billie Joe admit he was taking loads of pills at the time of the writing and recording process and some people where saying that there is a scene in Cuatro either as a deleted scene or one in the documentary where they where all on LSD and then someone else said - think it was on one of threads - that they thought that it looked like he was flimed snorting Coke. Anyway, in the Rolling Stones Magazine interview he said he was at the very least, while writing Amy, was taking a cocktail of pills - it could explain why it could not be as up to parr as it could have been and there where no promotion or hardly any as Billie sought very much needed treatment.

It was done live as 99% of Steve Albini recordings are hence albums he does are credited with recording by steve albini instead of produced by

Sounds interesting...

[The Disappearing Boy]

unfortunately, didnt Billie Joe admit he was taking loads of pills at the time of the writing and recording process and some people where saying that there is a scene in Cuatro either as a deleted scene or one in the documentary where they where all on LSD and then someone else said - think it was on one of threads - that they thought that it looked like he was flimed snorting Coke. Anyway, in the Rolling Stones Magazine interview he said he was at the very least, while writing Amy, was taking a cocktail of pills - it could explain why it could not be as up to parr as it could have been and there where no promotion or hardly any as Billie sought very much needed treatment.

Sounds interesting...

It wouldn't surprise me if drugs influenced this album. And I think that is why it wasn't as good as it could have been, although I doubt the band would ever admit to that. I don't know of any other album which has split the fandom as much as this has. The interesting thing is, I bet much of their earlier stuff was written while under the influence and they still managed to produce pretty decent music, but I guess that now that BJ is over 40, it may affect him worse?

[Guest]

It wouldn't surprise me if drugs influenced this album. And I think that is why it wasn't as good as it could have been, although I doubt the band would ever admit to that. I don't know of any other album which has split the fandom as much as this has. The interesting thing is, I bet much of their earlier stuff was written while under the influence and they still managed to produce pretty decent music, but I guess that now that BJ is over 40, it may affect him worse?

I don't think that drugs had that much to do with it. It was far more the fact that the Trilogy was rushed and had no quality filter.

We should also consider that perhaps Green Day have taken their "4 chords verse verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus" style as far as it is possible to go. Maybe they need to evolve or die?

[The Disappearing Boy]

I don't think that drugs had that much to do with it. It was far more the fact that the Trilogy was rushed and had no quality filter.

We should also consider that perhaps Green Day have taken their "4 chords verse verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus" style as far as it is possible to go. Maybe they need to evolve or die?

I would agree with that too. To be perfectly honest, we will never know if/how much influence bill's problem had on the recording. Maybe lots, maybe none. Luckily for us, Green Day are pretty good at evolving, but I do wonder where they can go from here.

[Guest]

I would agree with that too. To be perfectly honest, we will never know if/how much influence bill's problem had on the recording. Maybe lots, maybe none. Luckily for us, Green Day are pretty good at evolving, but I do wonder where they can go from here.

They've changed a lot since their early days, but those changes have come mainly in their sound. There's no real structural difference between songs like Angel Blue and The Judge's Daughter.

[Spike]

They've changed a lot since their early days, but those changes have come mainly in their sound. There's no real structural difference between songs like Angel Blue and The Judge's Daughter.

But then there's Uptight, WMUWSE, 21CB, Homecoming, Jesus of Suburbia, American Eulogy, Panic Song, Brutal Love... It's not like they've never done anything different. And the common structure is just that. Everyone has been doing it forever.

[Guest]

But then there's Uptight, WMUWSE, 21CB, Homecoming, Jesus of Suburbia, American Eulogy, Panic Song, Brutal Love... It's not like they've never done anything different. And the common structure is just that. Everyone has been doing it forever.

I know, it's hardly shocking that they haven't exactly changed up their structure much. But at this stage, with their money made, and at a crossroads in their career, they might as well experiment properly. I'd like for them to do something that pleasantly surprises me next time, y'know? Too much of the Trilogy was bland, and the bits of experimentation mainly flopped.

[Spike]

I know, it's hardly shocking that they haven't exactly changed up their structure much. But at this stage, with their money made, and at a crossroads in their career, they might as well experiment properly. I'd like for them to do something that pleasantly surprises me next time, y'know? Too much of the Trilogy was bland, and the bits of experimentation mainly flopped.

Well yeah, I agree with that. It'd be nice for them to seriously throw caution to the wind and write some Knights Of Cydonia type shit. I know they get unfairly criticised for their musicianship, but they've only got themselves to blame for hiding their talent as much as they do.

[Beezey]

I would agree with that too. To be perfectly honest, we will never know if/how much influence bill's problem had on the recording. Maybe lots, maybe none. Luckily for us, Green Day are pretty good at evolving, but I do wonder where they can go from here.

there are drugs who make you think the user is amazing at what they are doing at the time of taking the drug, some Pill you loose you inhibitions and then if you combine with alcohol the person ends up talk trash and getting angry and irriatable.

I don't think that drugs had that much to do with it. It was far more the fact that the Trilogy was rushed and had no quality filter.

We should also consider that perhaps Green Day have taken their "4 chords verse verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus" style as far as it is possible to go. Maybe they need to evolve or die?

Also a probable factor too but didnt they have some writen before entering in the studio. Maybe he gets writers block and writes anything down or wrong inspiration.

[Guest]

Also a probable factor too but didnt they have some writen before entering in the studio. Maybe he gets writers block and writes anything down or wrong inspiration.

Nimrod was written entirely in studio.

Also, Drama Queen, Fuck Time, Stray Heart, and Stay The Night were all written and performed pre-recording.

[Clockwise]

Fuck him. It's good enough, but the promotion was doomed the second the band fell of the face of the earth. If you're seriously going to tell me that the quality of something like Know Your Enemy is better than Nuclear Family, X-Kid, Stray Heart, Oh Love, Stay The Night, etc. you have to be kidding me. It seems like he's putting down artists for the sake of it, but the reality is that the label gave up on promoting the trilogy.

[Beezey]

Nimrod was written entirely in studio.

Also, Drama Queen, Fuck Time, Stray Heart, and Stay The Night were all written and performed pre-recording.

so they did some before going to the studio. Weed is supposed to be good for creativity. At Uni some flatmate used to sit there and smoke it right in front of me, gushing over the credentuals of the drug - pills dont do anything other than stop concentration. DONT DO DRUGS KIDS... I dont use any but peoole have claimed that about it - loose the pills and boose and chil out with a Green Day Splif. Creative Banana Skin.

[Spike]

Fuck him. It's good enough, but the promotion was doomed the second the band fell of the face of the earth. If you're seriously going to tell me that the quality of something like Know Your Enemy is better than Nuclear Family, X-Kid, Stray Heart, Oh Love, Stay The Night, etc. you have to be kidding me. It seems like he's putting down artists for the sake of it, but the reality is that the label gave up on promoting the trilogy.

Yep. Especially the bit about Know Your Enemy!

The fact is, radio 1 is for promotion. Radio 2 seems to be more about music for the sake of music. That's why radio 1 is full of One Direction - it's all about the product. If a band are unwilling or unable to promote for whatever reason, they won't be on radio 1.

[The Disappearing Boy]

Nimrod was written entirely in studio.

I was surprised to hear that when billie said that recently. it's probably one of their best albums lyrically.

[Beezey]

Fuck him. It's good enough, but the promotion was doomed the second the band fell of the face of the earth. If you're seriously going to tell me that the quality of something like Know Your Enemy is better than Nuclear Family, X-Kid, Stray Heart, Oh Love, Stay The Night, etc. you have to be kidding me. It seems like he's putting down artists for the sake of it, but the reality is that the label gave up on promoting the trilogy.

they might have to go for a stategic promotion to get sales up - possibliy why they are released those documentaries. Green Day defintely fell - big time. But we all know it never should have gotten to that stage of a public embarassment and humilation - can you imagine how embarassing and humilating it would have been then? It all went viral - including the Interview and what he said to qwen backstage. They need to do some type of new promotion for it and release more singles or recording additional bonus tracks and re-release and void out any of the rehab and re-promote the albums including the documentaries etc...and pretend it never happened (cos it never should have happened in the first place and he never should have been able to get that angry etc). Not going to speak about it anymore or you get a cyberslap so I wouldnt.

[Certified Nimrod]

Nimrod was written entirely in studio.

No, it wasn't. In Cuatro, Billie said that he wrote a bunch of the lyrics in the studio (I forget how many songs he said, though).

I really want to know which ones...

[Guest]

No, it wasn't. In Cuatro, Billie said that he wrote a bunch of the lyrics in the studio (I forget how many songs he said, though).

I really want to know which ones...

Ehhhh, once again I'll have to use the excuse that I was very drunk when I watched Cuatro

[Certified Nimrod]

Ehhhh, once again I'll have to use the excuse that I was very drunk when I watched Cuatro

Excuse accepted