Tubbie Head Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Possibly. It seemed like here was some type of theme though. They could have easily condensed the tracklist down to 14-21 tracks and it would still be good and there would be no way of any lineral theme etc running through it. Some of the explict songs, I feel just invades all the other songs. Yes, Billie you may" need the Friction" and you maybe given to go-ahead about writing about finding a stranger.....but seriously? Maybe I am just Btthurt cos I dont like the theme of it. I just dont think that crude songs fit at all. Crude explict songs just dont work under Green Day. But I just could be butthurt due not liking crude sexual words etc. I think that some could have been taken out and some other songs included. I dont remember Green Day being crude and explict about sex (with others) - maybe in private - I hear them and they are like an unnessary invasion of a collection of punk songs. Some could have been taken and pulled to B-sides. I get really disgusted actually. Not a fan of that type of chat at all. Thats why I kept on saying how I think some could been pulled under FHTs and then depersonalised as it would just a meaningless unpersonal themed Garage Rock. What to listen to more Punk B-sides not songs that speak to the person/imaginary person like a common Hooker. I like that they're doing stuff like that though. If it's what they felt like doing at the moment, then why not? You don't need to love every single concept they put in there, every single lyric. That's to me the great thing about the trilogy. It generated many diverse opinions... There are people who love songs I didn't enjoy as much, and people who hate the ones I really love. I think it's one of those albums where there is at least one song you'll fall in love with it and one song you'll completely despise. But this happens because it's so varied, which is a good thing, in my opinion.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 They where punk - came from Punk - their orgin and subculture. Alternative? 90s Journalist Label or that one the 2000s journalists gave them??? Pop-punk, through and through. 21stCB were rock operas though, definitely not punk, although there were punk elements in both. The Trilogy actually has more in common with classic rock than punk in a lot of songs.
Beezey Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Pop-punk, through and through. 21stCB were rock operas though, definitely not punk, although there were punk elements in both. The Trilogy actually has more in common with classic rock than punk in a lot of songs. Garage Rock possible more in the trilogy and so the 2000s Journalist Label has stuck. I remember in the 90s Journalists Labelled them as alternative. I guess they will never shake off that label those journalists gave them. Pity really. - it was some journalists and flim-maker called them that. I dont think Operation Ivy is going to be pleased. Nor the owner of Gilman. Who knows, possible on Pop Punk. who knows.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 i don't agree with the pop-punk tag, that to me is Blink 182 who make much more immature/pop-like music than GD. i'd say GD are more punk-rock than pop-punk. they're a fair amount heavier than Blink so i just don't see how they are remotely pop.
Spike Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Punk is all about not being able to play your instruments and swearing a lot. Add anything more and you're straying into other territories That said, Green Day sit on the punk side of pop punk, whereas Blink are clearly on the pop side.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Garage Rock possible more in the trilogy and so the 2000s Journalist Label has stuck. I remember in the 90s Journalists Labelled them as alternative. I guess they will never shake off that label those journalists gave them. Pity really. - it was some journalists and flim-maker called them that. I dont think Operation Ivy is going to be pleased. Nor the owner of Gilman. There's only about 3 or 4 songs at most on the trilogy that would be considered Garage Rock? In the 90s journalists labeled everything that they didn't have a tag for as alternative. U2, Radiohead, and Green Day were all alternative. It's a bullshit genre made up by lazy journalists. What have Op Ivy and Gilman got to do with anything? i don't agree with the pop-punk tag, that to me is Blink 182 who make much more immature/pop-like music than GD. i'd say GD are more punk-rock than pop-punk. they're a fair amount heavier than Blink so i just don't see how they are remotely pop. Green Day's songs have always been too melodic to be truly "punk". That's why the Gilman crowd didn't like them, remember? Also, blink's first couple of albums are just as heavy as anything Green Day have done, so that doesn't make any sense http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkb7L20kCeY
Tubbie Head Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Ugh labels again. I gave up a long time ago trying to put GD in a single category.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Green Day's songs have always been too melodic to be truly "punk". That's why the Gilman crowd didn't like them, remember? Also, blink's first couple of albums are just as heavy as anything Green Day have done, so that doesn't make any sense see i can't see any resemblance between GD and Blink. they're two very different bands in my eyes. one is much more pop than the other. i'm not saying GD are punk, i'm just saying they're more punk rock than pop punk, if you get what i mean. they aren't even remotely pop to me. if i had to tag them as something that wasn't punk rock, i'd say plain old rock. because fuck if i'm calling them pop punk
Beezey Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 i don't agree with the pop-punk tag, that to me is Blink 182 who make much more immature/pop-like music than GD. i'd say GD are more punk-rock than pop-punk. they're a fair amount heavier than Blink so i just don't see how they are remotely pop. Agree and I do remember a music journalist giving Green Day that label when going through their bio. It was very funny. Blink, Good Charlotte etc are the copycat PopPunk/Punk Pop and while the journalist sat there writing about those they somehow tired to attempt to stick Green day in there trying to convinence everyone they where founders of that so-called genre of Punk Poseurs and it stuck like glue to them from what - 13 years. AI is a bit more Poppy though. You can go on and on for years discussing their Punk orgins etc.....since this a B-side thread.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 yeah this conversation just doesn't belong here at all. i doubt we'll ever agree or come to some form of understanding so eh
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Blink have been around since 1992, they're definitely Green Day copycats
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Blink have been around since 1992, they're definitely Green Day copycats they're just a shitty pop version in my eyes not copycats, just kinda crap.
Beezey Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Remember when the journalist called John Lydon a Punk? Then that label stuck too.... Maybe they are pop punk - oh welll - they are Green Day that is what matters and need to release more songs and b-sides.
Spike Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Blink have been around since 1992, they're definitely Green Day copycats But but but... Billie Joe has been around since 198-fucking-8. He's not fucking Justin Bieber, you motherfucker!
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 But but but... Billie Joe has been around since 198-fucking-8. He's not fucking Justin Bieber, you motherfucker! Tom DeLonge has traveled through time and space. Your argument is invalid.
Beezey Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 But but but... Billie Joe has been around since 198-fucking-8. He's not fucking Justin Bieber, you motherfucker! 1987 - and also I have to say how completely uncomfortable i get when people quote Billies' embarassing Drunk/Pills angry rant - whatever the reason for that - he was so wasted. I have never seen him so out of it like that before. I dont like people quoting him and making fun of it. He added a rant into the concerts now though in Letterbomb, but I dont like it. I hope its not going to be made into some B-side Rap or something. He doesnt want or doesnt like being reminded of what was said and what he did ONE year ago and a total Blackout. Being Self-righteous and all, and I know I need to know my place, but I dont like the quote.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 Then why'd they release 21CB? This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Also, I know where you're going here, so let's not and say we didn't, hm?
Spike Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 1987 - and also I have to say how completely uncomfortable i get when people quote Billies' embarassing Drunk/Pills angry rant - whatever the reason for that - he was so wasted. I have never seen him so out of it like that before. I dont like people quoting him and making fun of it. He added a rant into the concerts now though in Letterbomb, but I dont like it. I hope its not going to be made into some B-side Rap or something. He doesnt want or doesnt like being reminded of what was said and what he did ONE year ago and a total Blackout. Being Self-righteous and all, and I know I need to know my place, but I dont like the quote. I know it was 87, obviously I was just quoting him. And it's just my humour, I didn't mean anything by it. What am I gonna do, cry about it? Maybe if his meltdown was the end of him I'd be more sensitive, but he seems to be doing well as far as we can tell. I'd also be less trollish in that respect if I thought there was any chance of him reading it and being upset by it, but that seems nigh on impossible. With respect, if you're upset/offended by swearing, songs about sex and drug-influenced behaviour, there can't be a lot you do like about Green Day, surely? I'm sorry you were upset by my comment, though, I was just having a laugh with the biggest troll on the forum and it was never my intention to offend anyone.
Beezey Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 I know it was 87, obviously I was just quoting him. And it's just my humour, I didn't mean anything by it. What am I gonna do, cry about it? Maybe if his meltdown was the end of him I'd be more sensitive, but he seems to be doing well as far as we can tell. I'd also be less trollish in that respect if I thought there was any chance of him reading it and being upset by it, but that seems nigh on impossible. With respect, if you're upset/offended by swearing, songs about sex and drug-influenced behaviour, there can't be a lot you do like about Green Day, surely? I'm sorry you were upset by my comment, though, I was just having a laugh with the biggest troll on the forum and it was never my intention to offend anyone. OK sure, but i am not a troll. Just because I dont like something doesnt make me a troll. I like Green Days music. I like Dookie and many other albums. bet if I wrote what you wrote that I would have got removed.
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 OK sure, but i am not a troll. Just because I dont like something doesnt make me a troll. I like Green Days music. I like Dookie and many other albums. the troll he was referrin to was Ceadagh (Miley Cyrus). he is like no.1 troll on here
Spike Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 OK sure, but i am not a troll. Just because I dont like something doesnt make me a troll. I like Green Days music. I like Dookie and many other albums. I wasn't saying you were, I was referring to Miley.
WhiteTim Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 the troll he was referrin to was Ceadagh (Miley Cyrus). he is like no.1 troll on here No that's dookielukie
Guest Posted September 27, 2013 Posted September 27, 2013 No that's dookielukie i have my own description for dookielukie that i shan't share because i'll get told off for being too mean again
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