Alan86 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Do Metallica, foo fighters and the red hot chilli peppers get this much shit from their own fans too? Seems like most green day fans are green day critics too. If you cant afford to go to this one off type gig then go see them when they are touring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Do Metallica, foo fighters and the red hot chilli peppers get this much shit from their own fans too? Seems like most green day fans are green day critics too. Metallica do, that's for sure. Lars Ulrich anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan86 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Metallica do, that's for sure. Lars Ulrich anyone? Well thats more of a criticism of one member rather than the band. But yeah Lars does get alot of shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Psycho Sexy Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Do Metallica, foo fighters and the red hot chilli peppers get this much shit from their own fans too? Seems like most green day fans are green day critics too. If you cant afford to go to this one off type gig then go see them when they are touring. Just searched on FF forum and RHCP forum about dreamforce and not a single complain For FF: http://bbs.foofighters.com/showthread.php?t=126988 http://bbs.foofighters.com/showthread.php?t=127673 And RHCP http://stadium-arcadium.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44317&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 To be fair it isn't $1000 to see Green Day, it's $1000 for the whole 4 day programme. Such things are usually expensive, but it's a catchment audience. The people that go to these things can't not go, for the most part. It's their world. Green Day being there is just a reflection of the corporate powers flexing their muscles to provide the best on-site entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desertrose Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Another write up about it.. Green Day Sign on for Expensive Dreamforce Gala Gig at AT&T Park East Bay punk-rock-turned-Broadway band Green Day is confirmed to headline the Dreamforce Gala, a networking event organized by San Francisco based cloud-computing company Salesforce, at AT&T Park on November 19. The booking was announced by Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff, who also welcomes tech stars, such as Facebook COO Sherrly and Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer, to the event’s speaker lineup. But the big names come at a premium—tickets to the conference are $1,099 if. Dreamforce has a history of hosting top tier musicians at their conference, such as the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Metallica, Stevie Wonder and Foo Fighters. In addition to the concert and keynotes at Dreamforce, attendees can opt for SalesForce training, visit an on-site expo and network with other business pros. http://www.sfstation.com/2013/08/29/green-day-sign-on-for-expensive-dreamforce-gala-gig-at-att-park/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizziebix Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 You guys do realize that $1,100 is not for a concert ticket, right? There's a massive, multi-day business seminar attached to this? For the seminar itself, $1,100 is a very, very reasonable price. If you think that companies are buying Dreamforce tickets purely so their employees can see Green Day, you're nuts. It's not a damn $1,100 concert; it's an $1,100 professional seminar that happens to include a concert. And food, don't forget that they feed these people breakfast, snacks and lunches over the 4 day conference and usually the dinner on the night of the concert. And they have to cover all the costs of the hotel/convention center where the meeting is being held. I know you know all this Ben, just adding to the accounting of why the conference costs so much and it's not just for a GD ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slave To The Network Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Well this is strange. By bet is that Green Day didn't choose to play here themselves. It's probably the record company making them do it. No Green Day fan I know could even come close to affording a ticket like that! So if they aren't playing to fans, what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 So if they aren't playing to fans, what's the point? $$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boringdays Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 That's complete hypocrisy...surely Green Day are big enough and rich enough now that they don't need to play corporate gigs anymore? yeah.. I love green day but that's kind of a sell-out move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Well this is strange. By bet is that Green Day didn't choose to play here themselves. It's probably the record company making them do it. No Green Day fan I know could even come close to affording a ticket like that! So if they aren't playing to fans, what's the point? Yeah cause it's Warner that does their bookings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 And food, don't forget that they feed these people breakfast, snacks and lunches over the 4 day conference and usually the dinner on the night of the concert. And they have to cover all the costs of the hotel/convention center where the meeting is being held. I know you know all this Ben, just adding to the accounting of why the conference costs so much and it's not just for a GD ticket. And somehow I knew that you'd be the one to bring up food. I do admittedly wonder if there's any point in trying to explain how this is not a concert, it's a conference, and conferences can cost $100,000+ to put on to a decidedly younger crowd. Green Day playing a venue does not automatically entitle you to a $20 pit ticket. Well this is strange. By bet is that Green Day didn't choose to play here themselves. It's probably the record company making them do it. No Green Day fan I know could even come close to affording a ticket like that! So if they aren't playing to fans, what's the point? Band Manager: Hey, Billie Joe, want to play a show on November 19th? BJ: Eh, I dunno. I was kinda planning on being lazy. Band Manager: They sent over a retainer check with lots of zeroes in it. BJ: How many zeroes? Band Manager: Lots. BJ: Call Mike and Tre, tell them they can't leave for Thanksgiving before November 20th. yeah.. I love green day but that's kind of a sell-out move. $%#@! Every band "sells out" the second they sign their first recording contract. Why? Because the second they sign that contract, they give up control over their music (including some/all creative control) to a record label in exchange for an up-front sum and back-end commissions and royalties. In short, they trade their music for money. Hence, sell-out. I'll say what I said last night in chat, and then I'm just gonna step away from this thread. It seems like most grasp the concepts in play here, but plenty of others do not and won't. It grinds on me a little that there are people in this thread who, if Green Day did a donation-supported show in Syria to support the families of the chemical attack victims, would be here pissing and moaning that Green Day did a free show and it wasn't in their fucking backyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 And somehow I knew that you'd be the one to bring up food. I do admittedly wonder if there's any point in trying to explain how this is not a concert, it's a conference, and conferences can cost $100,000+ to put on to a decidedly younger crowd. Green Day playing a venue does not automatically entitle you to a $20 pit ticket. Band Manager: Hey, Billie Joe, want to play a show on November 19th? BJ: Eh, I dunno. I was kinda planning on being lazy. Band Manager: They sent over a retainer check with lots of zeroes in it. BJ: How many zeroes? Band Manager: Lots. BJ: Call Mike and Tre, tell them they can't leave for Thanksgiving before November 20th. $%#@! Every band "sells out" the second they sign their first recording contract. Why? Because the second they sign that contract, they give up control over their music (including some/all creative control) to a record label in exchange for an up-front sum and back-end commissions and royalties. In short, they trade their music for money. Hence, sell-out. I'll say what I said last night in chat, and then I'm just gonna step away from this thread. It seems like most grasp the concepts in play here, but plenty of others do not and won't. It grinds on me a little that there are people in this thread who, if Green Day did a donation-supported show in Syria to support the families of the chemical attack victims, would be here pissing and moaning that Green Day did a free show and it wasn't in their fucking backyard. You sir rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 You guys do realize that $1,100 is not for a concert ticket, right? There's a massive, multi-day business seminar attached to this? For the seminar itself, $1,100 is a very, very reasonable price. If you think that companies are buying Dreamforce tickets purely so their employees can see Green Day, you're nuts. It's not a damn $1,100 concert; it's an $1,100 professional seminar that happens to include a concert. Same with SXSW in March. It's much more than one event, and there were no complaints there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Same with SXSW in March. It's much more than one event, and there were no complaints there Some did gripe about the price of SxSW but think SxSW is cool not realizing it is now a commercialized festival back when it started in the 80's 90's it was very selective on what was shown film wise (no movies backed by a major studio were allowed at all) bands that was signed to any majors were rejected but now any and everybody can get in I sold my passes for 2,500 (I had the all event plus backstage access) and got the GD passes from IdiotNation saw GD perform and went home that fest aint the same anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pismodiver Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 There's not much funnier than a bunch of people who were still crapping in diapers when Dookie came out getting all sanctimonious about Green Day being sell-outs. Come report back when you work and support yourself. Also, the vast majority of Green Day fans are not broke teenagers; they are the age of the band: In their forties! With commensurate income. There is nothing remotely dishonorable about the band accepting money for playing music. That's what bands do. I would also bet they are making at least 3 times $50,000. And to repeat what was said earlier - it is not $1000 for a Green Day show. It is $1000 for a 4 day conference. One of several social events scheduled happens to be a private show by a popular local band. There are no tickets for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 All I'm going to say on this is that Billie actually did bitch about corporations during his Letterbomb speech/rant at Reading pretty much likening them to murder and famine in his list of hateful things that we are negatively affected by daily. Honestly recently I feel the band members have had less and less say about the gigs they do etc... Why else would he feel so strongly about corporations then play a gig like this or as someone pointed out play the Montreaux Jazz Festival and ask why they were even there!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 All I'm going to say on this is that Billie actually did bitch about corporations during his Letterbomb speech/rant at Reading pretty much likening them to murder and famine in his list of hateful things that we are negatively affected by daily. Honestly recently I feel the band members have had less and less say about the gigs they do etc... Why else would he feel so strongly about corporations then play a gig like this or as someone pointed out play the Montreaux Jazz Festival and ask why they were even there!! Billie contradicts himself alot take what he says at shows at face value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hermione Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 All I'm going to say on this is that Billie actually did bitch about corporations during his Letterbomb speech/rant at Reading pretty much likening them to murder and famine in his list of hateful things that we are negatively affected by daily. Honestly recently I feel the band members have had less and less say about the gigs they do etc... Why else would he feel so strongly about corporations then play a gig like this or as someone pointed out play the Montreaux Jazz Festival and ask why they were even there!! Having a problem with some aspects of what some corporations do isn't the same as blindly hating every corporation. You wouldn't get far if you hated and attempted to having nothing to do with every single business/corporation in the world! Their record company is a corporation, so are the airlines they fly on and the chain stores they buy food from. It isn't as simple as everything about all corporations and business people is evil and we hate them.....it depends on the corporation and the person! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 Billie contradicts himself alot take what he says at shows at face value Hence the "last show in a long time" comment wasn't exactly worth freaking out over, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hero_Of_The_Hour Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 One of the things I love most about being a Green Day fan is that the fans (most of them anyway) know what Billie "really means" when he says something, they know that everything he says is to be considered a joke, a throwaway remark said on the spur of the moment or simply gibberish. His opinion on anything is not really his opinion unless the fans have validated it...he may be tired or joking if he dislikes something or someone as he hasn't cleared it with the fans before expressing his thought (translation joking because he is tired or ranting because it's what he does). The only words to ever be taken seriously from Billie are to be those which are postive - he must be happy, he must love his family, he obviously thinks *insert country here* is the greatest country in the world and he will play with Green Day until the earth implodes. These are unquestionable facts. Everything else is almost certainly completely dismissable...but never ever lies (he would never ever lie he just can't be taken seriously). Yep...it must be fun to know more about what's going on inside Billie's head than he does... I'm one of those foolish fans that actually listens when he speaks and with the exception of blatent lies/contradictions (the ones usually overlooked by many fans because perhaps it suggests he isnt perfect) I believe he means what he says & has a fully functioning brain capable of having thoughts and opinions and expressing those isn't simply idle rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Certified Nimrod Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 if i see one more person saying 'this is gunna be another iheart' i'm gunna stab someone i swear to god. JUST BECAUSE IT REVOLVES AROUND TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T MEAN BILLIE WILL SNAP. how little faith do you have in this man jesus christ. he is clean and sober, one video of him acting a bit off or doing a gig like this does not mean, i repeat NOT mean, he is on drugs/drinking again. i'm just excited for high quality videos tbh. Are there usually pro-shot videos from this conference? Yeah but you said no gd fan can afford it... im a GD fan and I can easily afford it just like I'm sure there are others who can as well... You're loaded bro. I wouldn't pay $1000 to see any band. Billie has been ranting against technology at every concert of the 99 Revolutions Tour, sober. I'm not saying he won't be classy at this event, (or that he'll stay quiet either) but his anti Steve Jobs rant was an extreme example under the influence. The man is capable of having an opinion against technology while he's sober, too. And the iHeart rant had nothing to do with technology. When has he ranted against technology on this tour? And yes, in Rolling Stone, he mentioned that Steve Jobs thing and he said it was just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heather. Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 When has he ranted against technology on this tour? He often has reeled against "cell phones, computer screens," etc versus reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 He often has reeled against "cell phones, computer screens," etc versus reality. Hasn't this always been in the context of a concert? I mean, the dude made an Instagram account for his DOG. He can't hate technology too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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