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¡Trilogy! era has come to an end


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The way I see it is they'll do a dookie anniversary and maybe an ai anniversary tour next year and probably release an album a year or two after that. And I really believe that it can be a world-class album. On the lines of Dookie or AI. They've got it in them and I'll be interested to see what this era has done to them in terms of song writing.

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I honestly don't think they have another massive, change the face of music for years to come album in them. How many bands can claim to have even one of those in them? Green Day have had two, and I can't see them doing it again. They'll never be as big as they were from 2004-2006 again.

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As fun as the Brixton gig was, I do see what you mean about the recent gigs somehow seeming less epic. The 21st Century Breakdown tour was just amazing, with the massive backdrops, pyros, more crowd interaction (getting more people on stage, running into the crowd etc) and more flowing sets. There's nothing wrong with what they're doing now, but it does seem to have a more pre-American Idiot vibe. Everything changed on the American Idiot tour, the shows got a lot bigger and more epic, so what they're doing now does seem like a step backwards. In actual fact, we're just spoiled really.

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I think it was even more of an identity crisis than a midlife crisis. And I totally understand it. Because at this point, they're stuck between grand rock albums with social commentary and goofy, lighthearted, short pop-punk tunes. The diversity in their music is why I love them, but I think it proves to be a challenge to them when they try to come up with what to do next. As much as the guys don't care what people think, at the same time, this band is definitely a band that likes to prove things about themselves with their music. American Idiot was to prove that they had grown up and were concerned about the state of the country. And the trilogy most DEFINITELY felt to me as though they were trying to prove that they didn't turn into a band that was serious and grown up all the time - that they still had the ability to let loose, be crazy and leave the politics behind. In trying to prove that, though, it sounded like a midlife crisis.

I think the whole back to basics thing came off a bit forced though. It was like they were trying to prove they were still punk or whatever by saying fuck all the time. It doesn't bother me at all but I just think it appeared this way.
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"Every ending is a new beginning"

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If I were Billie, I'd want this all behind me, besides, who knows how much shit he wrote during his rehab! they might be experimenting with it a bit in the studio, plus its almost 2014, so Dookie and American Idiots 20th and 10th anniversaries, there might be some action there, Tre could go play drums on the new Sum 41 album (wouldn't that be awesome!) there are so many things that the could do to get past this difficult part of their lives, I'm pretty sure they're trying to move on...

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The big stage is great for festivals and shit. They need to bring that back, it's very bare looking.

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The big stage is great for festivals and shit. They need to bring that back, it's very bare looking.

They'll probably spend some time doing that... Looking for what gets them going rather than just "bleeer" [best way for me to explain a song writing dry patch]

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They'll probably spend some time doing that... Looking for what gets them going rather than just "bleeer" [best way for me to explain a song writing dry patch]

I just moved that post to the Unpopular Opinions thread, accidentally posted in the wrong thread, sorry :P

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2014 will bring something with the 10th and 20th anniversary's.. i hope anyway

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idk, as amazing as the 21st century breakdown tour was, to me this tour has really proven that they don't need the pyro and big stage stuff and catwalks and bringing someone up onstage every other song to put on a hell of a show. i actually prefer it this way, even if it's not "epic". it feels a lot more intimate now that everything has been scaled down.

That's true. They're still amazing live, very tight as a band. But there's bound to be some people who prefer the 'big' shows, and if the band aren't putting them on (by choice, obviously), they'll see it as the band being 'in decline'. Take that as a good or a bad thing though, they always put their best work out after people write them off.

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idk, as amazing as the 21st century breakdown tour was, to me this tour has really proven that they don't need the pyro and big stage stuff and catwalks and bringing someone up onstage every other song to put on a hell of a show. i actually prefer it this way, even if it's not "epic". it feels a lot more intimate now that everything has been scaled down.

yea but its the audience onstage thing that gives fans something to really show off about...

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idk, as amazing as the 21st century breakdown tour was, to me this tour has really proven that they don't need the pyro and big stage stuff and catwalks and bringing someone up onstage every other song to put on a hell of a show. i actually prefer it this way, even if it's not "epic". it feels a lot more intimate now that everything has been scaled down.

I totally agree! I loved how everything was arranged during the 21st Century Breakdown tour, but this tour really showed that it's something they can easily add but at the same time something they don't need. They're absolutely killing it live without all that stuff and that's something that defines a great band as well! I did and do like their shows either way, but you're right about the fact that everything seems a lot more intimate and face-to-face now, even if the crowd's still just as big.

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I actually hated the circus at the end of the 21st CB tour, how many people were on stage? It made me cringe tbh.

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I actually hated the circus at the end of the 21st CB tour, how many people were on stage? It made me cringe tbh.

i hated that too! i'm so glad i didn't see that in person. it looked like a mess!

(also, JAX WHERE HAVE YOU BEEEEN?.. its belinda by the way :P)

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i hated that too! i'm so glad i didn't see that in person. it looked like a mess!

(also, JAX WHERE HAVE YOU BEEEEN?.. its belinda by the way :P)Hi

Hi sweetie,

Oh I disappeared into Motherhood lol, so exhausting, got my GD mojo bk now though haha....

I didn't see it in person or did I? Honestly I have no brain left, one word of advice don't have a baby they take your brain away and it doesn't come back haha

:wub:

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Hi sweetie,

Oh I disappeared into Motherhood lol, so exhausting, got my GD mojo bk now though haha....

I didn't see it in person or did I? Honestly I have no brain left, one word of advice don't have a baby they take your brain away and it doesn't come back haha

:wub:

i don't think you did either :P but yeah, even just seeing videos of it drove me crazy!!

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Well if the 99 Revolutions/Trilogy Era is over then next up would be another Un-themed Superhits tour like in 2002.

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Well if the 99 Revolutions/Trilogy Era is over then next up would be another Un-themed Superhits tour like in 2002.

why would that be next?

they didn't do anything after the AI tour or 21CB tour?

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I don't know, I really love when they bring fans on stage - it's pretty much the most you can interact with the crowd or at least with a part of it - but they really carried it to excess on their last tour. This time they did in my opinion strike the perfect balance between the two extremes! I hope they keep it this way!

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I don't know, I really love when they bring fans on stage - it's pretty much the most you can interact with the crowd or at least with a part of it - but they really carried it to excess on their last tour. This time they did in my opinion strike the perfect balance between the two extremes! I hope they keep it this way!

i was okay with one fan on at a time, but just not the whole 340240 people on! hahaha.

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I think the whole back to basics thing came off a bit forced though. It was like they were trying to prove they were still punk or whatever by saying fuck all the time. It doesn't bother me at all but I just think it appeared this way.

I agree with you. There was a lot of them trying to prove something in this era - that they can still be young, that they're still punk, that they don't just make serious rock operas now. But IDK - the idea of growing with your music and your songwriting sounds great to me. I'd much rather they keep moving forward and have their music age gracefully with them than have them trying to still make the music they would've made when they were 17. They seemed to grow up a lot in the AI and 21CB eras, personally and professionally. And I always thought that was great. So for them to then make the trilogy (and I agree, a lot did feel forced) felt like a step backwards in certain ways.

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I agree with you. There was a lot of them trying to prove something in this era - that they can still be young, that they're still punk, that they don't just make serious rock operas now. But IDK - the idea of growing with your music and your songwriting sounds great to me. I'd much rather they keep moving forward and have their music age gracefully with them than have them trying to still make the music they would've made when they were 17. They seemed to grow up a lot in the AI and 21CB eras, personally and professionally. And I always thought that was great. So for them to then make the trilogy (and I agree, a lot did feel forced) felt like a step backwards in certain ways.

The problem with that is this: what is the most common sentence you hear from people when talking about Green Day? "The old Green Day is better, they should create more music like Dooke again". And that repeated concept may have influenced what the trilogy came to be. I'm not saying that the band did not feel like doing that, or that they did this kind of music to please the people who wanted that style of music, but it has been a recurrent "petition" for Green Day since they made AI, and that's a long time asking for the same, which I think inevitably has had some influence in the band, and that's why it may seem forced and not as natural as it should be.

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