¡Trilogy! era has come to an end

[munns6691]

I feel it will be over because the band wasn't happy with the overall product, looking back. They barely play songs from Uno, Dos or Tre and have switched focus to Dookie. I feel a break is coming until closer to the Australia dates, which will be Dookie-centered. After those dates they might go back into the studio.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

i really liked this era. regardless what they wrote about. fucking. drugs. love. sorrow. anger. i dont care

it was a nice to go back to the basics of pre American Idiot days and write albums that don't have any story behind it. just writing about whatever they wanted to

Yeah, contrary to the few above posts, I felt like the lyrics of these albums were maybe not the most well-written, but very easy to relate to from a human element. They weren't just sex, drugs and rock and roll... there were a lot of genuine emotions in there in songs like Stay the Night, Lazy Bones, X-Kid, Fell For You and Missing You that shouldn't be overlooked at all. Those will be some of my favorite Green Day songs of all time.

Although I like the song Fuck Time way too much too, so what do I know?

And I'm genuinely confused as to how someone could feel nothing after one of their shows... no matter how it was... it's like, they're right there in front of you... I couldn't help but be overwhelmed with a swell of emotions that lasted for weeks later. Granted, it was my first show, so I had nothing to compare it to, but 5 months later I still get butterflies thinking about Pittsburgh.

[stories and songs]

FINALLY. Someone who feels exactly the same as I do. Green Day shows have always been some of the best of my life, but when I saw them last April I felt almost nothing. And a lot of the lyrics, especially the whole "sex drugs & rock n roll" thing came off as unrelatable and contrived and I just felt alienated and turned off by it.

Everything has felt so unlike the band I fell in love with almost nine years ago. Green Day is still my favorite band, but I can't see myself being an active fan if the next era is like the Trilogy (and honestly I haven't really been following the news that closely lately anyway).

I've been wondering if anyone feels the same way I do, too! Makes me feel a little better.

I think what still keeps me coming back to GDC is that I WANT them to be that band I was crazy in love with again. You can't just stop caring about a band that was so important to your life for so many years. But things just feel so different these days, and there is a very large part of me that feels completely indifferent toward them. That kills me. By default they're still my favorite band, and I don't know if that will change anytime soon. But that concert in April - it really screwed me up as a fan. I think it really illustrated what a huge disconnect had grown between me and the band. Even now, I see these interviews from Idiot Club that they've been doing and things just seem so weird to me. I don't even know anymore.

I need a new era because if things don't get a fresh vibe soon, my "relationship" with the band genuinely isn't going to make it. I've had times in the past when I'm not super into Green Day for one reason or another, but never like this. At this point in time, I'm kinda just hoping that one day they'll win me back, but I'm somewhat moving on, because I'm not sure what else is left.

And I'm genuinely confused as to how someone could feel nothing after one of their shows... no matter how it was... it's like, they're right there in front of you... I couldn't help but be overwhelmed with a swell of emotions that lasted for weeks later. Granted, it was my first show, so I had nothing to compare it to, but 5 months later I still get butterflies thinking about Pittsburgh.

It confuses me too, and I'm the one who didn't feel anything! I genuinely wish I did. Something was just different from past GD shows for me. There was nothing at all wrong with the show - they sounded amazing and played a great set. But it was just weird. I really don't have another way to describe it! They did a great job, but for some reason it just didn't connect with me like usual.

Also - I do like a TON of songs from this era. Some of them have become all time favorites - Lazy Bones, Rusty James, Amy, X-Kid - they're all amazing.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

It confuses me too, and I'm the one who didn't feel anything! I genuinely wish I did. Something was just different from past GD shows for me. There was nothing at all wrong with the show - they sounded amazing and played a great set. But it was just weird. I really don't have another way to describe it! They did a great job, but for some reason it just didn't connect with me like usual.

Also - I do like a TON of songs from this era. Some of them have become all time favorites - Lazy Bones, Rusty James, Amy, X-Kid - they're all amazing.

How many shows have you been to? Just curious. Like I said, I think it being my first show made my perspective understandably a little different than yours.

[stories and songs]

That was my fourth show.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

That was my fourth show.

Lucky! You probably got to see them during the AI days, right? I'm sure if I got to see that, my perception of the trilogy era would be lackluster as well. Either way, I hope you figure out the disconnect and a way to remedy it. I think we're all just in a weird place right now. It's such an awkward limbo. Are they touring or not? Are they releasing CDs or not? Is my show canceled or not? Is this song a single or not? Everything has been so mixed up and nothing's been official, so it makes everything strange and uncertain.

[stories and songs]

^ I agree. This has most definitely been an era of uncertainty. That's an excellent way to describe it, actually!

I saw them once during AI touring and twice during 21CB - the 21CB show at Madison Square Garden was absolutely one of the best nights of my life. That show was absolutely magical.

Thank you for your well wishes, though! And I'm very glad that you enjoyed your show so much!

[Clockwise]

I've seen them 8 times now, and my favorite show was from this last tour (Rochester). I feel like their vibe did change, but in my opinion, it was a welcome change. The shows seemed to be more about living in the moment, cherishing life, etc. And I could see how happy they were to be playing again, and it was great.

I'd love for them to go on another North American tour right away, but if they need to chill out then that's totally understandable.

And when Green Day "chill out", it's never really chilling out. They're always working on something.

[munns6691]

I'm curious to see how Billie's songwriting will be effected from rehab

[WestboundSign!]

I do hope this era isn't completely over yet, it would feel so wrong as things were really different this time. I'm hoping for more shows next year, no matter under which tour name they go. I just don't want my favourite band to 'disappear' again for a long time.

Anyways.. concert wise I have to say that from the six Green Day shows I've been to so far, the three ones this year stand out a lot. Of course the one in 2010 does stand out as well since it was my first concert, but if I compare the two 2012 and the three 2013 dates, it feels like I've seen two different bands there, in an entirely positive way. I loved the two shows last year but they couldn't put me into the moment as much as the shows this year managed to. They reached me a lot more, touched me a lot more and everything felt a tad more real, special and beautiful. It's something I can't quite explain but at the same time something I know a lot of others felt the same way about. A reason for this might also be that from the moment I heard about Billie's rehab and then the following journey, I felt even more connected to this band. Never thought this would or could happen, but it did.

[michael1989]

It shouldn't be over. They need to release a greatest hits package, 10-12 tracks from the trilogy. Release a couple singles. And promote on shows, radio, etc.

The lack of promotion/radio play is why it wasn't successful. Nothing to do with the music itself. Radio play counts for a lot when it comes to album sales. In Australia, Oh Love was the only song from the trilogy that was played. And most would agree that it wasn't the greatest song from the trilogy.

One album would have been much easier to promote, hence why a greatest hits release would be a grand idea.

[Nova-Caine]

Something was missing from this whole era for me from the band, it was detached, they felt detached and not quite ready, they rolled the shows off like a car production line, same thing exactly one after another, its gotten to a point where I think fuck sake throw something new at us.

Dookie was a good experience to have again but was lost on the Festival people, they don't know as many songs off Dookie as they think they do. I went ape at Brixon when he announced they'd play the whole album, I didn't have that vibe at Reading but that's Festivals for you, so many people there to see so many diff bands.

I don't want this Era to be over unless the band need it done with, the Trilogy is growing on me more and more, however I think two albums could have been enough but I am not Billie I didn't write this and don't know what he put himself through to bring it to us, sometimes I think he stretches himself too far and this time the end product was the meltdown.

I am going to step back and dig deeper into the Trilogy, try and enjoy it, the whole thing is tainted by Billie's rehab but doesn't mean we can't end this era on a high *pardon the pun* I don't know why but I just need word that they at least enjoyed us still.

x

[JOE THE X-KID]

Even though I love the trilogy, I feel like this era was kind of a mid life crisis for Green Day

[scatteredminority]

In my opinion, eras don't end until they start dressing differently. It's a weird, but effective way of marking the beginning of new eras.

[JOE THE X-KID]

I think people have felt underwhelmed by the live shows this tour because of the lack of presentation Green Day had in the past. Where's the fancy lighting, pyro and confetti. I know it doesn't change the music but it helps the shows feel more "grand". I don't now if its because of the lack of sales or what but its kinda sad.

[alienlifeform]

I think people have felt underwhelmed by the live shows this tour because of the lack of presentation Green Day had in the past. Where's the fancy lighting, pyro and confetti. I know it doesn't change the music but it helps the shows feel more "grand". I don't now if its because of the lack of sales or what but its kinda sad.

i frefer this kinda raw shows than the fancy ones..

[JOE THE X-KID]

Well I do in some ways but some confetti would be nice...

[Hermione]

Getting loads of friend requests all of a sudden?

Not gonna lie, I had a little nosy to try and find his account!

It's no secret, he's had it for years and adds everyone (although it sometimes takes a while as he hardly ever uses it). He even mentioned in an interview once and said to add him, along with a description of the profile pic so people would know it's the right one. Here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/trecoolsdrums?fref=ts

[stories and songs]

I think people have felt underwhelmed by the live shows this tour because of the lack of presentation Green Day had in the past. Where's the fancy lighting, pyro and confetti. I know it doesn't change the music but it helps the shows feel more "grand". I don't now if its because of the lack of sales or what but its kinda sad.

I think it was even more of an identity crisis than a midlife crisis. And I totally understand it. Because at this point, they're stuck between grand rock albums with social commentary and goofy, lighthearted, short pop-punk tunes. The diversity in their music is why I love them, but I think it proves to be a challenge to them when they try to come up with what to do next. As much as the guys don't care what people think, at the same time, this band is definitely a band that likes to prove things about themselves with their music. American Idiot was to prove that they had grown up and were concerned about the state of the country. And the trilogy most DEFINITELY felt to me as though they were trying to prove that they didn't turn into a band that was serious and grown up all the time - that they still had the ability to let loose, be crazy and leave the politics behind. In trying to prove that, though, it sounded like a midlife crisis.

[Nova-Caine]

It's no secret, he's had it for years and adds everyone (although it sometimes takes a while as he hardly ever uses it). He even mentioned in an interview once and said to add him, along with a description of the profile pic so people would know it's the right one. Here it is:

https://www.facebook.com/trecoolsdrums?fref=ts

He once jumped up at me on fb chat and left just a one word message'Grouch' my status was 'The world owes me so fuck you' almost wet my pants haha....

I think it was even more of an identity crisis than a midlife crisis. And I totally understand it. Because at this point, they're stuck between grand rock albums with social commentary and goofy, lighthearted, short pop-punk tunes. The diversity in their music is why I love them, but I think it proves to be a challenge to them when they try to come up with what to do next. As much as the guys don't care what people think, at the same time, this band is definitely a band that likes to prove things about themselves with their music. American Idiot was to prove that they had grown up and were concerned about the state of the country. And the trilogy most DEFINITELY felt to me as though they were trying to prove that they didn't turn into a band that was serious and grown up all the time - that they still had the ability to let loose, be crazy and leave the politics behind. In trying to prove that, though, it sounded like a midlife crisis.

I think they do care and a lot more than people realise, I think the whole meltdown and lack of live songs played from the Trilogy are a nod to this.

[stories and songs]

^ You're right. They act like they don't care, and to a certain degree, they don't (as in, they don't mold themselves to be what people expect of them, they just do as they please), but I think they care very much in the same way that all artists care. And that isn't a bad thing - anyone who creates something wants to get good feedback from it. But they definitely seem extremely self-conscious about the trilogy songs. Whether that's because the trilogy didn't do well sales-wise or they just associate the songs with a dark time or whatever, they have been very shy about playing the new songs. Just from different documentaries and such, it seems as though they get really freaked out about how people will respond before they play something new.

[jacknovella]

Maybe it's for the best that they sweep this era under the rug as others have said, it's definitely been a pretty profound chapter in their career for better or worse and I'm looking forward to whatever they decide to do next ^_^ If they do end up doing another rock opera with the low-fi sound Billie Joe talked about, I honestly believe it could be one of their best albums so far.

[Nova-Caine]

So are we saying they have another 'Dookie' or 'AI' in them

[jacknovella]

So are we saying they have another 'Dookie' or 'AI' in them

Sure, why not? American Idiot came along after Warning, which was from what I understand a pretty low point in their career success and popularity wise. If this forum existed back then, and you asked that question (obviously excluding the AI part ) I bet a lot of people would have said 'No way'...but they would have been wrong. So who knows really? We'll find out one way or the other

[WestboundSign!]

Yeah, I think if we got another rock opera next, it could easily, after all they've been through in this era, become their best album ever. Especially songwriting-wise. I'm really curious.