Guest Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 India. They've never been here even though they have a rather big fanbase. They've gone to Singapore so many times and Singapore is so fucking close to India. Mike's even said that he's love to come here but, there's been no news of a tour here The thing about India is, it's fucking huge. There might be a lot of Indian Green Day fans, but if they're spread across a country that large, no matter where they have a show, a lot of people won't be able to make it. Heck, it might even be easier for some Indian fans to fly to Singapore for a show than go to a show on the other side of India.
Steven Seagull Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 In that case it is, actually. Everyone says "There's huge fanbase in my country" and then at the concert half of the venue is empty. When Green Day play in country like Germany, there are many fans from abroad. In Poland I didn't meet anyone from other country. I understand it. I also would rather go to Germany or Austria than to small post-comunist country in east Europe. And why are so many foreign fans in Germany? Because the only way to see Green Day is to go to the nearest county you can. Why would germans go to Poland if they have a concert at home like every year multi times. And why Green Day never went to India? There is like a billion people there. They just go to "markets" they know.
TheJesusOfSuburbiaIsALie Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 The thing about India is, it's fucking huge. There might be a lot of Indian Green Day fans, but if they're spread across a country that large, no matter where they have a show, a lot of people won't be able to make it. Heck, it might even be easier for some Indian fans to fly to Singapore for a show than go to a show on the other side of India. That is true. Maybe they could play two or three places? Metallica did the same thing a few years back and while one concert did get cancelled due to some sort of an issue, a lot of people did get to go and Metallica has a huge, huge fanbase here. Going to Singapore would be difficult cause parents. No one would allow any 13-17 year old to go to Singapore for a band concert
Steven Seagull Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 The thing about India is, it's fucking huge. There might be a lot of Indian Green Day fans, but if they're spread across a country that large, no matter where they have a show, a lot of people won't be able to make it. Heck, it might even be easier for some Indian fans to fly to Singapore for a show than go to a show on the other side of India. How is a country to big? So let them come to Slovenia. It's a very small country you can get anywhere here in less than 2 hours. But wait ... you will say that now we are to small? I call that bullshit excuses.
Guest Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 That is true. Maybe they could play two or three places? Metallica did the same thing a few years back and while one concert did get cancelled due to some sort of an issue, a lot of people did get to go and Metallica has a huge, huge fanbase here. Going to Singapore would be difficult cause parents. No one would allow any 13-17 year old to go to Singapore for a band concert You see again, same problem. Every show you have dilutes the amount of people who'll attend. Of course the die hard fans will try all three, but that'd be nearly impossible all things considered. Unless they have 3 smallish shows, rather than 1 huge one. But then you have to factor in travel costs and stuff. It's just not financially viable for them. The reason countries like England and Germany get lots of shows is because it's easy for people and the band to travel to and around them, so they're easy money. India is kinda the opposite. How is a country to big? So let them come to Slovenia. It's a very small country you can get anywhere here in less than 2 hours. But wait ... you will say that now we are to small? I call that bullshit excuses. And I call bullshit on your complaining. If you can travel anywhere in Slovenia in two hours, add another two hours on and go to a Green Day concert in Italy or Austria. Just because it's not in your country doesn't mean it's not close. I'm seeing Green Day next week, and I'm taking an hour long flight and a 4 hour bus ride. Do you hear me complaining? Man up.
Steven Seagull Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 And I call bullshit on your complaining. If you can travel anywhere in Slovenia in two hours, add another two hours on and go to a Green Day concert in Italy or Austria. Just because it's not in your country doesn't mean it's not close. I'm seeing Green Day next week, and I'm taking an hour long flight and a 4 hour bus ride. Do you hear me complaining? Man up. Tell that to all the fans who don't have that chance.
JellyTime Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 And why are so many foreign fans in Germany? Because the only way to see Green Day is to go to the nearest county you can. Why would germans go to Poland if they have a concert at home like every year multi times. I met Germans in Austria and Norway, so fact that they usually have many Green Day concerts, doesn't mean that they don't travel abroad for the band. Same thing with fans from UK or USA. Some countries are just more open for people from abroad than the others. That's it. I understand you, because I have been waiting eight years for concert in Poland. But I also realized that I can't sitting here and waiting for Green Day. Sometimes our dreams need some help to come true
Firecracker Lell Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 It can also be political problems. Where on Earth they could come to Iran? Even if they had thousands of fans here, they still couldn't! I just wish they'd have a concert in Turkey so I could see them too. And it's the truth about most of fucking middle eastern countries. Here sucks huge balls. I would travel to see GD, but well, here's another big problem, my parents! They'd never spend money on that. I'm still waiting for the Asian dates, maybe I could satisfy my parents 'till that time....pfff
Guest Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Tell that to all the fans who don't have that chance. I would, because I can guarantee that there's not that many. Any who really want to see the band will travel those extra couple of hours. Any who would rather sit at home and bitch about the gig being just over the border don't deserve to see GD. Also, because Slovenia is so small as you say, there probably isn't a big enough fanbase to justify travelling there. There's no point in them rolling up in Ljubljana to play a show to a half empty venue.
Steven Seagull Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I just say it's not fair for other countries to be left out all the time, while others get shows like every year. Ok I understand USA since it's there home country but other than that ... Germany is not the only place left with Green Day fans.
Mary711 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Just because the population is big it doesn't mean that the fanbase is bigger than in other countries. In that case it is, actually. Everyone says "There's huge fanbase in my country" and then at the concert half of the venue is empty. When Green Day play in country like Germany, there are many fans from abroad. In Poland I didn't meet anyone from other country. I understand it. I also would rather go to Germany or Austria than to small post-comunist country in east Europe. Exactly. Look at the number of records being sold. And another point is, that they're able to fill up several venues here, which doesn't happen in other countries. And if you want to see them so badly, there should've been enough time for you to save up to see them somewhere nearby.
TheJesusOfSuburbiaIsALie Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 You see again, same problem. Every show you have dilutes the amount of people who'll attend. Of course the die hard fans will try all three, but that'd be nearly impossible all things considered. Unless they have 3 smallish shows, rather than 1 huge one. But then you have to factor in travel costs and stuff. It's just not financially viable for them. The reason countries like England and Germany get lots of shows is because it's easy for people and the band to travel to and around them, so they're easy money. India is kinda the opposite. The chances of the number of people not attending a concert here is not a very big problem in my opinion. Like if they have a concert in the capital (which is closer to North), the most number of people will be from Central and North India. And if they have a concert in the South, then the people from the South will attend and people from cities in Central India that is closer to the South can attend. So I don't think that is too big of a problem. And financially, the cost won't be very big, like in countries like Europe. Cause the value of the rupee is, unfortunately or fortunately depends on how you look at it, is low. They will earn a bit less than compared to European or even American concerts here but it won't be very costly for them.
Mary711 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I would, because I can guarantee that there's not that many. Any who really want to see the band will travel those extra couple of hours. Any who would rather sit at home and bitch about the gig being just over the border don't deserve to see GD. Also, because Slovenia is so small as you say, there probably isn't a big enough fanbase to justify travelling there. There's no point in them rolling up in Ljubljana to play a show to a half empty venue. I'm absolutely with you there. I just say it's not fair for other countries to be left out all the time, while others get shows like every year. Ok I understand USA since it's there home country but other than that ... Germany is not the only place left with Green Day fans. Have you thought about the costs of a tour? If you won't sell enough tickets, it's not worth it to play certain areas.
Steven Seagull Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Have you thought about the costs of a tour? If you won't sell enough tickets, it's not worth it to play certain areas. Who says you wont? Atleast give it a try.
Iain Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Who says you wont? Atleast give it a try. They can't book a show in a certain city if there isn't a sure chance that the tickets will sell.
Guest Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 The chances of the number of people not attending a concert here is not a very big problem in my opinion. Like if they have a concert in the capital (which is closer to North), the most number of people will be from Central and North India. And if they have a concert in the South, then the people from the South will attend and people from cities in Central India that is closer to the South can attend. So I don't think that is too big of a problem. And financially, the cost won't be very big, like in countries like Europe. Cause the value of the rupee is, unfortunately or fortunately depends on how you look at it, is low. They will earn a bit less than compared to European or even American concerts here but it won't be very costly for them. It's still a huge commitment with no guarantee of success. And the currency doesn't have much to do with it, because GD would most likely fly everywhere, given the size of the country. Who says you wont? Atleast give it a try. You said Slovenia is a tiny country. Why bother with a tiny country on the edge of Europe when you're playing shows in two countries beside it?
Iain Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Right folks, that's plenty. Quit the bitch fest because both sides have completely arguable points. I may have gone thousands of miles to see a Green Day show but in no way does someone not willing to drive into another country not make them any less deserving to see Green Day. Sheesh. Font size abused for emphasis, don't be a dick.
Steven Seagull Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I talk for myself here, but there were bands like Nirvana, The Killers who sold out here. If that is not good enough to give it a try I don't know what is.
Mary711 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I talk for myself here, but there were bands like Nirvana, The Killers who sold out here. If that is not good enough to give it a try I don't know what is. I don't get why it's so important for you that they play in a specific country if they played venues in other countries nearby. As in Italy in your case, which got plenty of shows this summer. You could've easily gone there if you want to see them so badly. I've traveled the whole world to see them, so a few hours seriously shouldn't bother you and are always affordable.
Guest Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Right folks, that's plenty. Quit the bitch fest because both sides have completely arguable points. I may have gone thousands of miles to see a Green Day show but in no way does someone not willing to drive into another country not make them any less deserving to see Green Day. Sheesh. Font size abused for emphasis, don't be a dick. Don't backseat mod mate. Someone not being willing to travel doesn't make them any less deserving to see GD. However, someone not being willing to travel, and then BITCHING about GD not coming to them to save them a couple of hours travel, well that's just horseshit. I don't get why it's so important for you that they play in a specific country if they played venues in other countries nearby. As in Italy in your case, which got plenty of shows this summer. You could've easily gone there if you want to see them so badly. I've traveled the whole world to see them, so a few hours seriously shouldn't bother you and are always affordable. This, 100%. The only difference is the name of the country.
TheJesusOfSuburbiaIsALie Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 It's still a huge commitment with no guarantee of success. And the currency doesn't have much to do with it, because GD would most likely fly everywhere, given the size of the country. That's the thing, India seems big, but when you travel on a plane you can reach everywhere withing two hours. I'm pretty sure I lost my point somewhere along the way so I'll just go away now
Mary711 Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Don't backseat mod mate. Someone not being willing to travel doesn't make them any less deserving to see GD. However, someone not being willing to travel, and then BITCHING about GD not coming to them to save them a couple of hours travel, well that's just horseshit. This, 100%. The only difference is the name of the country. Yeah, and as if that'd make a difference.
Guest Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Yeah, and as if that'd make a difference. It's not like they're gonna change the setlist that much YES. I'm sure it isn't too much of a chore to drive or fly to other European countries. It's really not that much effort. Brixton was last minute for me, and my travel expenses are just €120. If I had booked that a month or two ago, it could be as low as €60. Plus I'm saving on hotels and shit by freezing my ass off on the street
Iain Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 Don't backseat mod mate. Someone not being willing to travel doesn't make them any less deserving to see GD. However, someone not being willing to travel, and then BITCHING about GD not coming to them to save them a couple of hours travel, well that's just horseshit. First of all, the fuck you going to do about it? Secondly, I raised a fair point, but you're all acting like absolute man-children regardless, so yeah, even if I am not of moderation status at least someone that can actually feel pain can say something, and I don't see you being any more rational. MATE. Thirdly, I can see where this stands, but you should have emphasised that right at the start. There's been many, many, many times I haven't seen a Green Day show yet it's just a border away, and while I haven't whinged about it I haven't been that fortunate to have the time, money or opportunity to go all that way, and maybe some of these things should be taken into consideration for people who are in these countries as they might be in the same sort of situation. EDIT: Having said that, I have also expressed why they don't go to those countries, so no, I'm not on either side of your arguments here.
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