Tubbie Head Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 hahah what? I didn't see that coming! Was this posted on GDA? I wanted the White Stripes to win.
Guest Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Shame on anyone who voted for Tré, he's probably the worst drummer on there, except for Meg White and Taylor Hawkins
Florence Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Shame on anyone who voted for Tré, he's probably the worst drummer on there, except for Meg White and Taylor Hawkins You're a wonderful fan okay shame on me and the 5% of GDCers who actually voted for Tré yay
Guest Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 You're a wonderful fan Excuse me for having diverse tastes in music
WhiteTim Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Tre is not a horrible drummer by any means I do think he dumbs down for GD songs tho...
green day is Posted August 2, 2013 Posted August 2, 2013 Tre is not a horrible drummer by any means I do think he dumbs down for GD songs tho... Considering his situation when he learned, I'd say he's probably doing his best, assuming he didn't have any lessons later on. That's not to say experience hasn't granted him a lot over the thirty+ years he's been playing, but it's no surprise everything he makes is so simple.
JackInABox86 Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Just gonna throw something out here, basic means absolutely nothing to how good a song is. Complexity means nothing. Green Day is the most worldwide commercially successful rock band that has broken out since 1990. That includes names like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, etc. Their simple formula of connect-4 chord progressions and 4:4 beats works very, VERY, effectively, and their 75 million worldwide album sales really proves that. What's been rated the best song of all time, and the best solo of all time, in Stairway to Heaven, isn't that complex a song... on any front. The iconic riff at the beginning isn't much harder than something that would be classified as a beginner song to learn on the guitar. A worldwide hit like Boulevard with a basic Em-G-D-A chord progression that has sold roughly the same amount of copies as One Direction's entire discography. Ignoring just guitar now, as this was a drumming contest, that TRE WON , a song like Holiday, with an extremely, extremely basic drumming pattern, can be just as effective, if not more effective than constant double-bass and cymbal smashing that Joey Jordison does. Jimi Hendrix>Eddie Van Halen. Jimmy Page>Kirk Hammett. Tre Cool>Joey Jordison. You'll notice that the person I list as better is more successful and more widely-listened to. It's also my opinion. Highway to Hell has some of the most effective drums ever IMO. They're also as basic as it gets. Who the hell is Phil Rudd, anyways? At the end of the day, the mainstream and the large crowds listen to what sounds good to them. And as hard as this may be to hear for some, simplicity is usually what people think sounds good. Still, it's basic.
Flyingdonutz Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Considering his situation when he learned, I'd say he's probably doing his best, assuming he didn't have any lessons later on. That's not to say experience hasn't granted him a lot over the thirty+ years he's been playing, but it's no surprise everything he makes is so simple. People can teach themselves stuff, you know. That's how a pretty wide crowd of people pick up and learn instruments.. including myself. Still, it's basic. tl;dr Shame on anyone who voted for Tré, he's probably the worst drummer on there, except for Meg White and Taylor Hawkins ALL HEIL! THE LORD OF ALL DRUMMERS! THE KING OF ALL WHO DRUM!
green day is Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 People can teach themselves stuff, you know. That's how a pretty wide crowd of people pick up and learn instruments.. including myself. No shit. Doesn't change the fact that he was 12 and had no musical experience whatsoever. Larry probably just taught him kick hat snare hat and a couple fills and that was it. It's not like he's even that good.
Flyingdonutz Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 No shit. Doesn't change the fact that he was 12 and had no musical experience whatsoever. Larry probably just taught him kick hat snare hat and a couple fills and that was it. It's not like he's even that good. He's a pretty unique drummer. Doesn't fucking matter what Larry taught him. I taught myself guitar from scratch. I'm not the best guitarist, but most legendary guitarists taught themselves too. You have no idea what Tre can do. What he does in Green Day songs couldn't possibly be better for Green Day's style. That's what makes him great. Not complexity.
green day is Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 He's a pretty unique drummer. Doesn't fucking matter what Larry taught him. I taught myself guitar from scratch. I'm not the best guitarist, but most legendary guitarists taught themselves too. He really isn't though. Nearly every song is built on the kick hat snare hat pattern with a couple fills thrown in here and there. Stop trying to take this as a personal attack on self-taught musicians, I taught myself everything I know. You have no idea what Tre can do. Right, cause I'm not a Green Day fan? If Tré can do more than what we hear on the records, then it's about damn time he started showing us. What he does in Green Day songs couldn't possibly be better for Green Day's style. That's what makes him great. Not complexity. I agree with the first part, but that doesn't make him great. In fact he isn't great, he's one of the most meh drummers out there. And it's not because he doesn't do anything complex, it's because he doesn't do anything. Nothing makes him stand out as a drummer. The only thing I can think of is that he kind of made the "little fills here and there" thing a "thing", but he didn't even invent it.
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