Green Day remixing trilogy guitars

[Insomniac1984]

Was Poprocks and Coke out before IS? There's a band message where he says something to the effective of "We told you we were gonna show you Poprocks and Coke but not anymore" as if he had promised it for that one, but I didn't think it had been heard before IS.

Is the original mix available for download anywhere?

I think he meant Maria, not poprocks and coke.

[Akshat]

I think poprocks and coke was a bside to one of the warning singles, as i read in the song of the week forum

[St. Christian Of Suburbia]

I really enjoy the trilogy, but sometimes I think the guitars are... I don't know, too twang-y, if that makes sense. Pretty much all of the solos sound phenomenal, but most of the chords used for the other parts sound very light and poppy instead of heavy.

(I see myself as rather musically knowledgeable but I don't know all of these techy guitar terms, so it's entirely possible that I just repeated exactly what you guys have been saying all along, excuse me if that's the case. xP)

[Jesus Of Suburbia 2396]

I both like and dislike this idea, but the like definitely outweighs the dislike. I only somewhat dislike it because I love the original, but, unlike most re-mixes of GD songs, this one is actually being done by the band (or just Billie Joe I'm not sure lol). So it'll definitely be awesome as fuck no matter what . Not like those stupid fucking Dookiefied re-mixes. Looking forward to hearing them if they come out!

[Mar]

These probably aren't gonna be your typical "remixes" though. If anything I'd think he's just messing with the tones and possibly redoing some parts. Not like when electronic artists do it.

Oh I know that, but still, I think my brain has a hard time accepting anything but an original. I mean, even a good live version and I still am partial to the original. Irrational mental block. That's not saying I'll dislike this stuff, not at all, just that I'll be like, "Eh, cool," listen to it occasionally, forget about it for a while, etc.

[Insomniac1984]

I think poprocks and coke was a bside to one of the warning singles, as i read in the song of the week forum

Actually, there is a previous version of Maria (called Original version) included on Waiting's vynil single. It is available on iTunes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y73okqHrzy4

Poprocks and coke it is an unreleased song. I've never heard something about a "previous/original version" of that song.

[green day is]

I think he meant Maria, not poprocks and coke.

I thought about that, but Maria was rerecorded entirely, not remixed.

[WhiteTim]

I think poprocks and coke was a bside to one of the warning singles, as i read in the song of the week forum

It was Maria not Poprocks

And Maria wasnt remixed for ISH they had re recorded the song at a different sessions (kinda like they have a version of Good Riddance during the Insomniac sessions but re recorded during Nimrod sessions)

[jacknovella]

I'm sure Billie knows what he's doing by giving us a glimpse of what he's up to. Let's not forget that he announced the entire trilogy via a tweet. I can definitely see some sort of best of the trilogy, or even an entirely new album with a different title, made up of remixed trilogy songs. They still have a lot of promotion left to do, why not put it all towards this new enhanced album?

It's all speculation obviously but I think Billie/the band definitely have something up their sleeves;)

[michael1989]

This is just speculation but let's have some fun...say Green Day was a little (or more than a little) unhappy with how the whole Trilogy release went down in light of certain events (no need to rehash here, obviously). They, like many of us, would be frustrated with the lack of attention and promotion the trilogy had received as a result, and perhaps they weren't 100% thrilled with the sound on some of the songs. They have a few weeks before the European tour, so why not hit the studio, mess around with some of the songs a little bit, and if they like the results...well, there's a chance they could re-release this stuff, really catch the public's attention and properly promote the material, and then tour behind it this summer in Europe and again this fall in the U.S. They could re-release Stray Heart and release Stay the Night as proper radio singles and finally get some legs under the Trilogy. Most importantly, they would finally be able to get this material out there with proper promotion and a full touring cycle behind it. I think it would be a great approach, and this could end up being a brilliant idea. Just speculation, but seems perfectly reasonable. I'm getting excited thinking about it.

I LOVE this! Especially STN and SH as singles. All 4 songs they tweeted deserve to be singles!

Not too sure about remixing them - I'm happy with most of the songs, but I'm open to it. As long as they aren't substantially changed.

I think a "Best of the trilogy" release along with a couple b-sides would be ideal. They could approach it as if it's a new album - lead single, second single, etc. And promote it on tv, awards, tour, etc.

[Hermione]

I tell you what is going on:

Bad sales for the trilogy. They redo the best songs, make a "best-off, remixed trilogy album" and rule the charts, because they are back to promote the shit out of it.

I don't think they'd ever create music or alter their music in order to rule the charts or as some kind of marketing strategy. They create whatever music they want in order to express themselves as artists and try new ways of being creative, not as a reaction to what will be popular or sell well. After they've made music and it's time to release it it's obviously packaged and promoted to make it be popular and sell, but I don't think that would ever be what drives the making/remaking of it.

[arrie44]

This is too awesome!! I like Uno Dos and Tre, but everytime I listen to them I can't help but feel like they are such a waste. The guitars are so flat, it's just not that big epic Green Day sound that I love so much, and it easily could have been. I'm so happy Billie sees that too and is going to fix it for us! Its something i always dreamed of but never actually thought I would get in a million years, Green Day doesn't have a track record of re-recording (except for WTP of course). Now the question is, do we have to buy the CDs all over again?

[DTH]

I was trying to figure out what he was eating! We don't have one of those near me. Explains why I'm so confused.

Yeah, I'm not sure how I really feel about this. The rabid fan in me is like "MOAR material! YES!" but then the logical pessimist in me is like "Seriously? If you're not going to promote what you originally released, just let it die and save yourselves the embarrassment of failing twice." Wow. That sounds kind of harsh, haha.

i never get why the fuck you all care about promoting and commercial succes. let them have fun, let us have fun. they are millionaires, i dont care if they make more money. lets hear some good music, no matter if its popular or not. that is whats wrong today: if something is not loved by the masses it cant be good? theres no emberassment if you have weak sales (and the sales werent that bad btw!)...

if you tie you personal well being and your definition of success with the general taste and opinion you gonna have a bad time in life.

[Todd]

This should be the first time they're remixing songs from any of their album.I don't think they ever remixed 21stcb, AI, Warning or any of the albums.

Another theory could be that they might release a few of the trilogy songs in an upcoming greatest hits collection or something.They remixed Poprock and Cokes for international superhits.

This is something big guys.

P.S-I know this isn't possible but I would really love to see a remix of Kill the DJ from a famous DJ or something.Foo Fighter's had Rope remixed by deadmau5 and it was in the Duluxe edition of wasting light.So why not kill the dj.It has a lot of potential as it's something different compared to today's trend of the music industry.

There are official remixes of Last of the American Girls, Prosthetic Head, Geek Stink Breath... I literally just woke up so I can't think of anymore right now.

[Hermione]

Do you guys seriously think Green Day would release music, see that some people don't like it, and go "oh we better change it and release it again so they'll like it more"?! They make music for themselves, not to cater to us, if we like it we like it and if we don't too bad. If they're remaking any of their songs it's because they want to for fun and to be creative, not to impress whining fans.

[green day is]

Do you guys seriously think Green Day would release music, see that some people don't like it, and go "oh we better change it and release it again so they'll like it more"?! They make music for themselves, not to cater to us, if we like it we like it and if we don't too bad. If they're remaking any of their songs it's because they want to for fun and to be creative, not to impress whining fans.

Almost no one has implied that. Most of the speculation has been that they might not be happy with the way the guitars turned out.

Imagine if they released a new album and just pretended the whole trilogy never existed forever.

[jacknovella]

Do you guys seriously think Green Day would release music, see that some people don't like it, and go "oh we better change it and release it again so they'll like it more"?! They make music for themselves, not to cater to us, if we like it we like it and if we don't too bad. If they're remaking any of their songs it's because they want to for fun and to be creative, not to impress whining fans.

Nope.

Do I think they would make adjustments if they themselves weren't totally happy with the final outcome? Yes.

I honestly don't think they care enough record sales and success enough to act upon it, but I think it's naiive to think it doesn't have any effect of them at all, if you work your ass off creating something, you want it to be recognized. The RS article in which Billie talked about shitty sounding recordings and 100% live stuff, was the first interview he did after presumably having a LOT of free time for months. We speculated then about whether he would be writing music, or just messing around, etc. I don't think it's far fetched to argue he may have experimented with some different sounds then.

[Tubbie Head]

It's really interesting, I hope it'll be released at some point (maybe b-sides for the next single, if there's going to be one)

But hey if it isn't released, Billie is such a bad person for teasing us!

Yes.

[Gregorovich]

Here's a question - if the entire trilogy is remixed with a 'rawer' sound in high fidelity, would you fork out the $30 or whatever for it and, more importantly, will is replace the original trilogy for you?

[Hermione]

Nope.

Do I think they would make adjustments if they themselves weren't totally happy with the final outcome? Yes.

I honestly don't think they care enough record sales and success enough to act upon it, but I think it's naiive to think it doesn't have any effect of them at all, if you work your ass off creating something, you want it to be recognized. The RS article in which Billie talked about shitty sounding recordings and 100% live stuff, was the first interview he did after presumably having a LOT of free time for months. We speculated then about whether he would be writing music, or just messing around, etc. I don't think it's far fetched to argue he may have experimented with some different sounds then.

They already heard the final outcome and chose to release it though, no one was forcing them. Putting out new versions because making new versions is fun, cool, interesting and creative seems more likely to be the main motivation than anything to do with disliking the old versions to me. And certainly more likely than it being anything to do with making the songs more marketable. Maybe a sense of perfectionism and wanting to always be doing their best comes into it, but I don't really know why that's being viewed as them actually disliking the originals. Just seems a negative way of looking at it.

[jacknovella]

They already heard the final outcome and chose to release it though, no one was forcing them. Putting out new versions because making new versions is fun, cool, interesting and creative seems more likely to be the main motivation than anything to do with disliking the old versions to me. And certainly more likely than it being anything to do with making the songs more marketable. Maybe a sense of perfectionism and wanting to always be doing their best comes into it, but I don't really know why that's being viewed as them actually disliking the originals. Just seems a negative way of looking at it.

Don't get me wrong I do agree with you We know they're perfectionists and didn't want to let 21CB go for a long time until it was 100% perfect. So I don't think they do dislike the originals at all. It's possible that because there were so many songs, and they had to put three times as much work into creating three records, that some more time devoted to mixing could have been lost.

[Hermione]

Don't get me wrong I do agree with you We know they're perfectionists and didn't want to let 21CB go for a long time until it was 100% perfect. So I don't think they do dislike the originals at all. It's possible that because there were so many songs, and they had to put three times as much work into creating three records, that some more time devoted to mixing could have been lost.

I guess so. But I still think the main reason must be to try new things with the music, be creative etc. If it was just "ehh I don't really like the finish of a few of those songs" and changing them slightly I don't think that would be a very good basis to put out an album (the hypothetical album being discussed here anyway ). I think if it was a whole album or EP the songs would have to be entirely different versions rather than just "improved", otherwise it wouldn't be very interesting and would make it look like they weren't confident in the music they just released.

[WorryRock02]

The first thing that came to my mind, is that they might publish a compiletion with the best of from the trilogy and with a new sound.

[deathtofalsesushi]

My official prediction is that these are going to be radio mixes. I think it's no coincidence that these are the songs that have the most potential as radio singles, though like someone said, they aren't going to rule the radio anymore.

[BazingaofSuburbia]

Say they remix Dirty Rotten Bastards.... is it out of the question for them to re-add the removed verses for that song we saw from the Cuatro lyric sheet pics..?

I was thinking the same, I hope they do cause I really liked the removed verses. I would be extremely happy if they do