Billie Joe on the cover of Rolling Stone "The Road Back From Hell"

[Lauren]

Honestly I can't see anything strange about that video. Billie's got drunk and rambled on passionately, and danced around lost in the music, and crowdsurfed, many times before. I don't think it's at all unusual behaviour from him at a smaller show.

Not aimed at you, but I hope people aren't gonna constantly be going back to old videos and saying "look he wasn't right there", "look he was out of it there", cuz that's gonna be boring and annoying.

Yes. I would have pointed something out as unusual if I noticed when I was there. I didn't. I just thought he was giving his hardcore fans a really good show.

As for his "one minute rant", I didn't really think anything of that (I saw that clip first) because he does stuff like that. but when I saw the whole performance, I started seeing stuff, but it wasn't until the rehab announcement that I started looking for stuff rather than noticing stuff.

[desecrator09]

This is just like waiting for the album leaks!

[MaraGreenDay]

Apart from how glad I am that Billie is doing better now, I also think of all the shit that Adrienne must have had to deal with for years. I've always thought she was an amazing and strong woman (my crush on her is sometimes bigger than my crush on Billie!) and to think of how she has obviously supported and stood by him, and has held their family together through some really dark and hard times........she's just completely amazing. She deserves all our respect, really.

This!! I think the same, and i think that´s when you realized how strong and big it´s that love, Adrienne it´s one of my heros

[ChelseaDagger]

I'm 409% that it's a joke. Although, my coffee did taste a bit funny...

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

[Guest]

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

Shush, No One Knows

[Lauren]

Do you mean once you start alcoholism, it's hard to stop? Or once you first drink alcohol it's hard to stop? I guess it's easy for me to stop. I don't drink to get drunk. I don't like being drunk, I don't like feeling drunk. But I only know that because I've experienced it. So I guess I would say, it's okay to try it, but not be scared that you can't stop. It's not like you will instantly become addicted on your first drink. You'll more than likely think it's gross. I still can't drink beer, I think it tastes horrible. Hard liquor is what makes you wasted quickly. It's also hard to swallow, because it burns like fuck. Those sensations put me off alcohol. I guess those who become addicted are those who enjoy the burn, or who have convinced themselves that drunkenness solves their problems.

Yes, I suppose you're right, that it's not possible to get addicted from the first sip. (Well, I've had sips before). I just want to avoid it as much as possible. Why not, right? and if I do drink, I want it to be because I'm having a GOOD time, not because I'm depressed.

[Heather.]

Also, it's interesting about how outside forces convinced him to go to rehab. Think he worded it on the dot, "I thought everyone was in on the joke, but I was the joke".

I always think about that quote of Billie's from Behind the Music "I don't want to be some 40 year old child, I don't think my wife wants a child, and my kids don't want a child they want a father..." it's like 40 hit and yep, time to grow up and out of those bad habits, because they cause very childish behaviors that are far more serious.

I also remember some interview with someone talking about Green Day where they described how after Warning/naked leopard thong-fat Billie era, he was tired of being everyone's drunk Uncle and wanted people to take him a little more seriously, which is why the AI era was so professional and clean (despite the floor humping, which was done oh-so-artistically). So this last bit has been sort of a throwback to old Green Day, which is entertaining until you realize that yeah, maybe at this age, regression isn't such a good habit.

[spark in the night]

How stupid of me to not realize Restless Heart was about himself. D'oh! Just like 27th Ave Shuffle..makes me cry now.

"pills and alcohol are making me a lost cause"

"I can see the edge now, Golden Gate is falling from behind"

that scares me.

[Neutral Milk Hotel]

I was one of those people who thought it was awesome. It was "punk" or so I said. I was wrong. I'm a bit ashamed I felt that way.

Me too

Sigh

[Lauren]

Shush, No One Knows

make like a disappearing boy and leave this thread with your dumb puns

[tdlyon]

This is the main headline on the entertainment news on yahoo at the moment

For some reason I lol'd when I saw they just refer to him as "Armstrong"

[HolyHandGrenade]

I'm 409% that it's a joke. Although, my coffee did taste a bit funny...

I'm 99% sure that some thing's wrong one just made a reference!

[dirnt286]

I was one of those people who thought it was awesome. It was "punk" or so I said. I was wrong. I'm a bit ashamed I felt that way.

I know what you mean, I felt the same way.

But it's ok because we didn't *really* know he had demons to deal with, and how could we have really known what was going on in his personal life? Assuming it was somewhat rock n roll antics wasn't that far of a stretch.

[stories and songs]

Apart from how glad I am that Billie is doing better now, I also think of all the shit that Adrienne must have had to deal with for years. I've always thought she was an amazing and strong woman (my crush on her is sometimes bigger than my crush on Billie!) and to think of how she has obviously supported and stood by him, and has held their family together through some really dark and hard times........she's just completely amazing. She deserves all our respect, really.

He's lucky to have her as his wife. From everything I've seen, she seems like a total sweetheart. And to stand by someone in a time like this can't be easy. Of course you wouldn't want to abandon someone you love when they're sick, but still, it certainly isn't an easy road whatsoever. She's definitely a wonderfully strong, supportive wife. I'm so happy that he has her.

One of many things that makes me so proud to be a fan of Green Day is that I have total confidence that the rest of the band will take care of Billie. I'm very confident that they'll make sure to keep temptation away from him and support him as much as possible. That's true friendship.

Honestly, Billie has a lot of pretty spectacular people who love him.

[spark in the night]

Yes, I suppose you're right, that it's not possible to get addicted from the first sip. (Well, I've had sips before). I just want to avoid it as much as possible. Why not, right? and if I do drink, I want it to be because I'm having a GOOD time, not because I'm depressed.

Exactly!

For me, I find that hard liquor is the worst. I went out to dinner with my co-workers and had a mojito. 3 (giant) sips later I was so dizzy I could barely walk in a straight line. I felt like falling asleep. I didn't drink the rest of it and gobbled down as much food as possible to soak it all up.

It's not a fun feeling. I don't understand how people can enjoy it.

I can drink beer/champagne/wine without any drunkenness though. It's just the clear stuff that's bad haha

[Hermione]

everything Billie does on stage isn't "scripted" and we are talking about how he's looking wasted and how he's jumping around and stuff too.

He's been getting wasted and jumping around on stage as long as Green Day has existed. Yes we now know he's been battling with addiction, but that doesn't mean every single piece of footage of him performing while under the influence of something needs to be picked over for signs of it. It's pointless.

[Guest]

I'm 99% sure that some thing's wrong one just made a reference!

80-86% of statistics are actually jokes.

[DookieLukie]

This is the main headline on the entertainment news on yahoo at the moment

Link to the article please?

[Todd]

Link to the article please?

google it, ya lazy fuck

{googling a yahoo article, lol}

[HolyHandGrenade]

80-86% of statistics are actually jokes.

I'm right 97% of the time - who cares about the other 4%?

[Lauren]

How stupid of me to not realize Restless Heart was about himself. D'oh! Just like 27th Ave Shuffle..makes me cry now.

"pills and alcohol are making me a lost cause"

"I can see the edge now, Golden Gate is falling from behind"

that scares me.

As a songwriter, not every song is about yourself or someone you know. I'm not saying that he's not using the songs as a form of relief, a diary of somesorts, but we can't over-analyze it, either. He's also written "taking all you down with me / explosives ducktaped to my spine / nothing's gonna change my mind" -- does that mean he's a terrorist? No! Sometimes you just write in someone else's mind. Billie may have used the characters in American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown as his alter egos. Maybe he needed to imagine himself as someone else to really see his problems. but then again, maybe he just wrote random crap! While it's a good possibility, we shouldn't go looking for "clues", unless we're gonna turn this into a "Paul is dead" type thing. Listen to the songs backwards!!! Maybe they'll tell you all of Billie's secrets!

[Heather.]

As a songwriter, not every song is about yourself or someone you know. I'm not saying that he's not using the songs as a form of relief, a diary of somesorts, but we can't over-analyze it, either. He's also written "taking all you down with me / explosives ducktaped to my spine / nothing's gonna change my mind" -- does that mean he's a terrorist? No! Sometimes you just write in someone else's mind. Billie may have used the characters in American Idiot and 21st Century Breakdown as his alter egos. Maybe he needed to imagine himself as someone else to really see his problems. but then again, maybe he just wrote random crap! While it's a good possibility, we shouldn't go looking for "clues", unless we're gonna turn this into a "Paul is dead" type thing. Listen to the songs backwards!!! Maybe they'll tell you all of Billie's secrets!

I agree with your main premise, but I do think "explosives duct taped to my spine, nothing's gonna change my mind" is indeed autobiographical in the sense it's an extreme representation of the emotion of wanting to destroy yourself and everyone around you because you just fucking hate the world.

But no, Billie is not a terrorist... a term people didn't give as many shits about in 1994 when the song came out

[Fuzz]

http://instagram.com/p/WN8gmdHrOk/

Someone go ahead and dig around for more.

[brianbags]

Wait, so has he always gotten drunk before their performances? Or was this just something that started during the trilogy era?

[iRun]

SHIT THERE WERE HINTS IN ALL OF HIS LYRICS! HOW COULD I BE SO NAIVE?