Hermione Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 What.I agree! It has my favourite line of the albums, "I wouldn't say I'm straight 'cause I'm bent out of shape". Pure wit (and badassery ) right there. And even the use of silly/nonsense lyrics in the song is witty ("I like your BMXcellent tits" being the best example). Paints a colourful and amusing picture of this Troublemaker character that he fancies himself as. The "BMXcellent tits" line would be awful if your creepy 11 year old brother wrote it. Why is it good coming from a 40 year old married man?Not sure what his age or relationship status has to do with it, but it's just a funny, silly play on words to illustrate the obnoxious "Troublemaker" character described in the song. Deliberately nonsensical, you think he's just going to compliment her car (BMW) and bike (BMX) but then turns out he's making a lecherous comment instead.
Spike Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Lesson of the day: Don't try to argue with Hermione over lyrical matters.
Anaïs. Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hermione is like a creation scientist—she twists her interpretation of the lyrics to suit her already-established conclusion that the Trilogy is brilliant, instead of actually examining the data and forming a hypothesis from that.
Hermione Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hermione is like a creation scientist—she twists her interpretation of the lyrics to suit her already-established conclusion that the Trilogy is brilliant, instead of actually examining the data and forming a hypothesis from that. Ignore the enthusiastic praise in my posts if you want, hopefully the interpretations still make sense whether you're Trilogy-is-brilliantist or not
JOE THE X-KID Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hermione, I think you'd make a good philosopher. Ok my dream album: 1. Brutal Love 2. Missing You 3. Stay The Night (2010 version) 4. Oh Girl 5. Dreamcatcher 6. X-Kid 7. Olivia 8. Rusty James 9. 8th Avenue Serenade 10. 99 Revolutions
stories and songs Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 "I like your John Deere-fabulous tits." ~ Billie as a country singer. Glorious. Also, Lady Nightlife, your avatar just makes me very happy. When talking about how much the trilogy upset me, it makes me feel better to see a picture of my favorite fictional besties (but it also might make me cry a little). I have no idea what BMXellent tits could possibly mean. Motorcyclist tits? No comprende. Troublemaker does have some pretty witty lyrics. Up until "Easy cum and go," which skeeves me out enough to practically cancel out the good lines in the song.
DookieLukie Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I, too, felt that the trilogy seemed forced. They've always been good about mixing humor with real issues - personal, political, social, or otherwise. To my mind, they've always been a band that more so mocked the rockstar lifestyle instead of living it (as in, in the Holiday video, the dancing girls weren't meant to be taken seriously). The trilogy, however, was very serious about the drugs, sex, and rock 'n' roll. It was overall a pretty humorless set of albums, and that's not like Green Day at all. The Holiday girls were a joke. The Oh Love girls were the real deal, and that bothered me tremendously. The trilogy felt forced to me because it felt like they were REALLY trying to prove that they weren't too grown up after making two political albums. But in trying to prove how they could still let loose and have fun, they managed to take that way too seriously, and it wasn't fun at all (for me). I don't know... Green Day is so great at evolving. And as they got older, I felt albums like American Idiot and 21CB were an excellent step in the right direction - they were both clever, masterfully written albums that I think they should be very proud of. And I noticed that they, not just as musicians, but as people, seemed to become a lot more mature during those eras. And it was a good thing. After all, when you're 40 and have teenagers of your own, there's no harm in growing up and evolving. I'd get awfully tired of their music if they continued making the same music they did when they were 20. I think the trilogy was a huge step backward, particularly in terms of writing. They don't need to write sharp political commentary all the time or anything, but many of the trilogy songs just sounded very juvenile to me. And as someone who really isn't into the whole "drugs, sex and rock 'n' roll' scene, and who loved Green Day so much because they WEREN'T that type of band, I felt very alienated. It didn't resonate with me at all, and Green Day's music always resonates with me. There are some excellent songs scattered throughout, but overall, I don't like the final product. It's not the band I fell in love with. Sorry, that was a bit long-winded. This trilogy drove a major wedge between me and Green Day, so I tend to get rather rant-y about it. In short, I think it was forced because even if the recording happened organically, the themes of the trilogy felt like they were really out to prove something. And over the years I've come to accept that Green Day is often trying to prove something with their albums (that they're still punk, that they're adults, that they're not too grown up, etc). But this time, it didn't sit well with me. This is amazing. I felt like it was me talking! Glorious. Also, Lady Nightlife, your avatar just makes me very happy. When talking about how much the trilogy upset me, it makes me feel better to see a picture of my favorite fictional besties (but it also might make me cry a little). I have no idea what BMXellent tits could possibly mean. Motorcyclist tits? No comprende. Troublemaker does have some pretty witty lyrics. Up until "Easy cum and go," which skeeves me out enough to practically cancel out the good lines in the song. Wouldn't it be "come" not "cum"? I don't think he's talking bout ejaculating in that line.
stories and songs Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 ^ Apparently in the booklet, that's how it's spelled. I don't have it, but someone else posted it a while back.
DookieLukie Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 ^ Apparently in the booklet, that's how it's spelled. I don't have it, but someone else posted it a while back. Hmm weird. PM me sometime.
Guest Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 PM me sometime. Jesus Christ dude stop fucking using GDC as a place to pick up girls. It's super fucking creepy. says the guy with a GDC girlfriend oops
The Disappearing Boy Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I would post about how terrible the BMXcellent tits line is, but Hermione would come up with an argument as to how it fits in with the context of the song/album/trilogy which was so good that I'd probably end up reluctantly agreeing with her - so I won't even bother! (but yeah, it's a terrible line! ) haha fair enough I've just realised in Oh love, it should be "tonight my dicks on the loose" Just when I thought that song couldn't get any worse!!
DookieLukie Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Jesus Christ dude stop fucking using GDC as a place to pick up girls. It's super fucking creepy. says the guy with a GDC girlfriend oops Pick up girls? Um no. Her posts rang true with me and I wanted to talk more to her. Like I'd pick up a girl I know nothing about. Jeez. Plus who's your GDC gf?
Guest Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Pick up girls? Um no. Her posts rang true with me and I wanted to talk more to her. Like I'd pick up a girl I know nothing about. Jeez. Plus who's your GDC gf? *giggles hysterically and waits for Hermione and Kay to show up* None of your business.
Jollyroger118 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 ^ Apparently in the booklet, that's how it's spelled. I don't have it, but someone else posted it a while back. While yeah it was probably meant to be that way the booklets got a lot wrong this time around which kind of pissed me off. What dolceamore (?) said about them taking the whole sex drugs rock n roll thing too serious this time around is true. I mean what the fuck were they thinking with the Oh Love video? As much as I love hot girls there was nothing clever or tongue in cheek about that abomination. But I like how unimpressed they look at the club in the Kill The DJ video. I don't know, the themes and ideas that the band said they were going for with the trilogy sound really good but they barley executed it at all. And I HATE that they ended the whole thing with The Forgotten. Why why why? I will say Dos is my favorite out of the three and it seems to stay the most on point. And then there's songs like X Kid and Rusty James and Sex Drugs and Violence that do carry the themes of being middle aged pretty well. But SD&V sucks pretty bad, even Mikes one random line and the verses. But the pre chorus (back at school it never made much sense/ now I pay but I cant pay attention/ teaching me the hardest lessons of my life) holds to the themes they were supposedly going for. And then there's Dirty Rotten Bastards which seems to be a fan favorite and it is kind of cool but those lyrics are so ridiculously all over the place that is only sounds good and is fun to listen to but means jack shit. Compare that to the craft behind JOS and Homecoming and tell me the trilogy was them at their maximum. And my god I hate the "Carried Away" part at the end that comes out of nowhere and is just annoying.
stories and songs Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Hmm weird. PM me sometime. Jesus Christ dude stop fucking using GDC as a place to pick up girls. It's super fucking creepy. says the guy with a GDC girlfriend oops Pick up girls? Um no. Her posts rang true with me and I wanted to talk more to her. Like I'd pick up a girl I know nothing about. Jeez. Plus who's your GDC gf? I feel awkwardly flattered by this exchange.
Spike Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 The come/cum thing is clearly intentionally ambiguous. So there.
alexandra_1039 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 to me, when i don't think about the trilogy compared to their other things, its overall fun to listen to and i don't mind it. the only problems i have with it are related to the previous expectations i had. but when i just kinda sit back and don't care, its my favorite stuff to listen to. (does that even make sense) ? im not sure if i worded that right....lol. anyone see where im comin from?
DookieLukie Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I feel awkwardly flattered by this exchange. Then PM me! I'd love to talk
Z J Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Sure the "BMX" line is intentionally obnoxious....but just because it fits with the rest of the song doesn't make the line good. It isn't at all clever because there is no clear correlation between a BMX and tits. I think the whole trilogy was disappointing for a number of reasons. They showed great potential right out of the gate with Nuclear Family and Stay The Night, but it was down hill from there. The next 10 songs on UNO are probably the worst stretch of 10 songs on any album I've heard in a while. Green Day or not.
Anaïs. Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Sure the "BMX" line is intentionally obnoxious....but just because it fits with the rest of the song doesn't make the line good. It isn't at all clever because there is no clear correlation between a BMX and tits. I think the fact that Billie is just now saying "tits" in a song when he hadn't for the entirety of their immature-punk-brats phase says a lot about the forced quality of the Trilogy.
Jollyroger118 Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I know a lot of people like Nuclear Family, and it is fun, but it's one of the best (or worst) examples of the trilogy lyrics being complete nonsense
Z J Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I know a lot of people like Nuclear Family, and it is fun, but it's one of the best (or worst) examples of the trilogy lyrics being complete nonsense Agreed, it is very unfocused, but hearing it right off the bat, it gave me hope for the rest of the albums. Actually that's a great word for the trilogy... unfocused.
Mar Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I think the fact that Billie is just now saying "tits" in a song when he hadn't for the entirety of their immature-punk-brats phase says a lot about the forced quality of the Trilogy. I think this statement is a perfect explanation for a lot of people's dislike of the trilogy, myself included.
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