JOE THE X-KID Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 ^ same. Barring When it's Time but that was sung by gd so it doesn't really count. My favourite era of Billie's voice was def the AI era. His voice had matured enough, wasn't whiny or too nasally as it used to be. Don't really like anything onwards beside a few songs where he hits really high notes. "She's always living like she's running out of time" his vocals when singing that line is just perfection
Backyard Skulls Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 "She's always living like she's running out of time" his vocals when singing that line is just perfection I had to Google that line I'm such a bad fan it is really good tho. My fav song vocal wise on ai is probably letterbomb.
JOE THE X-KID Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I had to Google that line I'm such a bad fan it is really good tho. My fav song vocal wise on ai is probably letterbomb. haha shame on you, but yea Lettermbomb sounds awesome too
The Disappearing Boy Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I'm glad I'm not the only one who dislikes the musical! The movie could be OK if it's done well, i.e. not like the musical!
Z J Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 Green Day songs aren't built to let vocals flourish, for the most part. They're fast and melodic, there aren't many spots to add runs or anything live otherwise you'll fall out of the pocket. I think Billie proved his voice is just fine, if not better with Foreverly. You don't have to like that type of music to appreciate a punk-based singer harmonizing that wonderfully. Rock Am Ring was a mess. The only good song on the video was Burnout. Everything else was off. Reading was solid. Not incredible but certainly better than many live singers nowadays.
Z J Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 have any of you ever even seen the musical, good lord. I have seen a lot of the live video and aol sessions stuff. Very talented people. Some songs benefit from the musical treatment (Letterbomb, LNOE) some don't (American Idiot). I would never see it without the original cast. The touring cast would probably disappoint.
Spike Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I don't have a problem with the musical on the songs that are changed musically in some way. But Letterbomb, just... Wow. I don't see the point in having a song be exactly the same except for swapping out Billie and his fantastic rock voice for cabaret musical singers. It just sounds like weak karaoke. They're all good singers, but none of their performances are remotely appropriate for the songs they're doing. The whole thing just reminds me of Kidz Bop.
bagelfeet Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I can't stand the musical versions, especially Give Me Novacaine: "Johnny says it's better than here" WTF
Z J Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 I don't have a problem with the musical on the songs that are changed musically in some way. But Letterbomb, just... Wow. I don't see the point in having a song be exactly the same except for swapping out Billie and his fantastic rock voice for cabaret musical singers. It just sounds like weak karaoke. They're all good singers, but none of their performances are remotely appropriate for the songs they're doing. The whole thing just reminds me of Kidz Bop. hmm it appears we disagree, I think the lyrics in letterbomb are elevated ten-fold by having it sung from a woman's perspective. And watching the actual performance of the song, the emotion is intense. I would never listen to it over the original, and I don't listen to the musical versions ever, but watching it live its fantastic.
Cath Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 the musical came in my province twice in january but i wasn't more interested than that. i don't know i didn't feel like wasting money on that.
Spike Posted January 20, 2014 Posted January 20, 2014 hmm it appears we disagree, I think the lyrics in letterbomb are elevated ten-fold by having it sung from a woman's perspective. And watching the actual performance of the song, the emotion is intense. I would never listen to it over the original, and I don't listen to the musical versions ever, but watching it live its fantastic. I see what you mean about the lyrics and emotion, I just really don't think the performance suits the music at all. An acoustic version of it would work amazingly, but as it is I'm really not sure. That said, I've never seen it live, maybe I'd be more into it if I had. The CD version makes my skin crawl, to be honest.
Z J Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I see what you mean about the lyrics and emotion, I just really don't think the performance suits the music at all. An acoustic version of it would work amazingly, but as it is I'm really not sure. That said, I've never seen it live, maybe I'd be more into it if I had. The CD version makes my skin crawl, to be honest. I've never even heard the CD version just seen the video
cocoepops Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I really appreciate Last Ride In.... I think it's a great song. It's actually one of my favorites. And overall I think Kerplunk Is really underrated. It's my favorite album Oh god. I can't stand last ride in.
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 have any of you ever even seen the musical, good lord. I completely agree. It's one thing to scoff behind a computer screen; it's another thing to cough up the cash and make an informed opinion after seeing it live. Like a concert, it doesn't even compare when you just watch it on YouTube. It's stupid to think it's the same. Although I do think some of the songs would benefit from less "prettified" singers, other arrangements are spot-on. I remember the first time I saw "Give Me Novacaine" when I saw the original cast in Detroit, the boom of the gunshots during the army scene gave me goosebumps. It was really something. The lack of a real comprehensible plot is somewhat annoying, but I can let it slide for some of the great arrangements. Let's be honest, Know Your Enemy from the musical kicks the original's ass. hmm it appears we disagree, I think the lyrics in letterbomb are elevated ten-fold by having it sung from a woman's perspective. And watching the actual performance of the song, the emotion is intense. I would never listen to it over the original, and I don't listen to the musical versions ever, but watching it live its fantastic. You're right — the song takes on an entirely new meaning when sung by a woman. The line "I'm leaving you tonight" is so much more powerful, and the whole thing, when performed live, is very impactful. I really enjoy it.
Mar Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I completely agree. It's one thing to scoff behind a computer screen; it's another thing to cough up the cash and make an informed opinion after seeing it live. Like a concert, it doesn't even compare when you just watch it on YouTube. It's stupid to think it's the same. Although I do think some of the songs would benefit from less "prettified" singers, other arrangements are spot-on. I remember the first time I saw "Give Me Novacaine" when I saw the original cast in Detroit, the boom of the gunshots during the army scene gave me goosebumps. It was really something. The lack of a real comprehensible plot is somewhat annoying, but I can let it slide for some of the great arrangements. Let's be honest, Know Your Enemy from the musical kicks the original's ass. You're right — the song takes on an entirely new meaning when sung by a woman. The line "I'm leaving you tonight" is so much more powerful, and the whole thing, when performed live, is very impactful. I really enjoy it. Ugh, I can't stand KYE from the musical soundtrack. Tony Vincent's voice just ruins it for me, because I feel like he makes the song more about himself than the audience that the narrator is addressing.
Guest Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 This thread has been going for a year.... Well observed.
AlissaGoesRAWR Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Ugh, I can't stand KYE from the musical soundtrack. Tony Vincent's voice just ruins it for me, because I feel like he makes the song more about himself than the audience that the narrator is addressing. OK, maybe that song just always sucks no matter what.
Hermione Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I can't stand anything on the musical soundtrack. Blah
alexandra_1039 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I don't really like that sound of the musical sounds on the CD either, its almost sounds too...precise? i cant think of the right word. and i just happen to fancy billies voice....alot. BUT, i enjoy the musical songs a lot more live, its much better than the soundtrack.
Spike Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Let's be honest, Know Your Enemy from the musical kicks the original's ass.Yeah, but Salt-N-Pepa could do a version better than the original, even if they replaced all the instruments with fruit and farted the melody.
Velocity Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 The musical version of Too Much Too Soon is the best song on the entire soundtrack and almost beats out the original.
xxPistolxx Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 To me, i think, Warning and the trilogy are very very VERY underrated. And Dookie and Nimrod are very overrated. If you try listening to the albums from the first one to the last one, you'd sort of appreciate them more. It shows the evolution of Green Day, from the raging hormones and the dullness of teenage years to the hangover after a party. 39 smooth and Kerplunk show the teen punks and everything teenage years is about, then comes Dookie, when they sort of start growing up just a bit, but there's still the emptiness of the lyrics that are on the previous albums, the lost minds of teenagers going through life. Then comes Insomniac, which to me sort of doesn't make sense but makes sense at the same time, its a bit confusing. And it still has the recklessness and everything. Then there's Nimrod, which sort of still makes you hear the youth in them or something, but in a more grown up way if that makes any sense at all. And then you have Warning, which to me, is genius, it shows how they have grown up. The lyrics and the sound show that they're not kids anymore, that they have adult shit to face, something like that. Warning sort of makes you aware of how the other albums sound and feel like, and what vibe they give. Then there's American Idiot, which, well we don't need to talk about that cause almost everyone has the same opinion on it. Its a bit overrated as well. And 21st Century Breakdown is the album that to me, sort of shows the adulthood and everything, cause it has a lot about politics and everything, so yea its like to me, i feel like when i first heard it, it made me realize how shitty this world is, so yea it sort of is a wake up call and a slap in the face. Then the trilogy. The trilogy to me, it sort of shows Green Day as they are, in some songs, it has the teeny vibe to it. Then other songs that remind me of Warning, they show the grown up all wise and fancy guys and all that shit. And some songs are just so fucking fun. I'm not saying its the best thing in the world, i think if they just rough up the guitars or something it would be cooler, cause it sounds a bit too varnished. To me the trilogy, its like a flashback of all the previous albums, but in a way that is too clean and sparkly, if it was a bit more aggressive and muddy and all it would've been perfect. But it is pretty awesome to me, it has its vibe. And i think, a lot of the fans aren't willing to let the fact that those guys aren't the reckless "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT" teenagers anymore, they're grown ass 41 year old men, and they have families and they have other shit to take care of, so that has A LOT to do with what their music would sound like. Their mentality has changed, and that leads to the change of their music, their sound and the lyrics and all. Now go ahead and kill me.
Spike Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 And i think, a lot of the fans aren't willing to let the fact that those guys aren't the reckless "I DON'T GIVE A SHIT" teenagers anymore, they're grown ass 41 year old men, and they have families and they have other shit to take care of, so that has A LOT to do with what their music would sound like. Their mentality has changed, and that leads to the change of their music, their sound and the lyrics and all. Now go ahead and kill me. The issue I have with this is that the general attitude of the Trilogy seems forced. Previous albums all seem very organic, but the themes of a lot of the songs on the Trilogy, particularly Dos, seem to be kind of tryhard. It almost feels like they're saying "We're not all serious and boring and political like the last two albums suggested, wooooo sex and alcohol." If anything, it sounds like they're trying to be reckless "I don't give a shit" teenagers, as you put it, and it's because it's forced that it falls down. It needs to be believable, which is why the earlier albums are so believable and the Trilogy isn't.
alexandra_1039 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 sheeeeesh what wrong with know your enemy?!? (rhetorical question) I mean I knew people didnt like it but i didnt know it was hated so much lol. thats one of my top 10 favorite songs..
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