Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[DookieLukie]

I've always got the impression that Nightlife is disliked purely because it's Green Day and they "shouldn't be doing that kind of music." Silly.

You're welcome! I found it fascinating myself, if that's where the album title comes from then mind=blown.

I'm pretty sure Billie named the album that because his baby was keeping him up all night and fueling his anxiety. I'm pretty sure this has been said in many interviews.

[Spike]

Or because it contains lines such as "I hope there's more in your pants than a bus route."

Well yeah, that's hilarious. I think it's kind of a novelty though, it definitely has its charms.

I'm pretty sure Billie named the album that because his baby was keeping him up all night and fueling his anxiety. I'm pretty sure this has been said in many interviews.

That's what I've always thought, but what was said in that article is very interesting. It could easily be a happy coincidence but it's cool either way.

[Z J]

Idk what people are going on about with Billie's ego. I think the band is still a unit. The trilogy was bad, but I think we will get to hear more from the other members with whatever we get next. Some people make it sound like just because the album lacked good bass or drums that billie was taking over the whole process. I do not think that's the case at all. I could be proven wrong but we won't know anything for sure until we see more material come out.

[AlissaGoesRAWR]

You're welcome! I found it fascinating myself, if that's where the album title comes from then mind=blown.

Wait, you guys didn't know that? I thought that was, like, common knowledge. That's where I always thought it came from. I knew about the skulls, too. Although I have no idea where I accumulated this knowledge. Probably random Internet stalking one day.

Or because it contains lines such as "I hope there's more in your pants than a bus route."

Yeah, that song is just bad... That lyric (and many others) is cheesy, but not in the good way.

[Mykee Mexx]

Personally, I always found that line utterly hilarious (and a bit clever).

What´s clever about the line with the bus route? Some insider joke...?

[Spike]

What´s clever about the line with the bus route? Some insider joke...?

Maybe it's because bus routes are meant to be long, or something? I don't really know, I've never really seen it as clever.

[Mykee Mexx]

I've always seen it as hilarious because normally you'd expect something much dirtier following the phrase "Hope there's more in your pants...." Also, to me a bus route implies hitting the road, not being around, etc., so maybe the lyric suggests in a tongue-in-cheek way that she hopes the guy will be more than a one-night stand.

Aaaaaahh... seeing it from that point of you... yeah... Actually, I always thought, maybe "bus-route" was some American slang I don´t know for something dirty... But seeing it your way... yes, makes sense to me, thank you!

[Spike]

I've always seen it as hilarious because normally you'd expect something much dirtier following the phrase "Hope there's more in your pants...." Also, to me a bus route implies hitting the road, not being around, etc., so maybe the lyric suggests in a tongue-in-cheek way that she hopes the guy will be more than a one-night stand.

That's... Actually a really good point. I never thought I'd see a reasonable justification of that line.

Kind of reminds me of Mr Brightside by The Killers:

Now they're going to bed, and my stomach gets sick

And it's all in my head but she's touching his chest

Not quite where I expected that second line to go

[klytaemnestra]

That's... Actually a really good point. I never thought I'd see a reasonable justification of that line.

Kind of reminds me of Mr Brightside by The Killers:

Now they're going to bed, and my stomach gets sick

And it's all in my head but she's touching his chest

Not quite where I expected that second line to go

i still refuse to sing chest. it's clearly dick.

[Spike]

i still refuse to sing chest. it's clearly dick.

Glad I'm not the only one.

[The Disappearing Boy]

I'd genuinely never thought of that

In conclusion: Nightlife is terrible.

[Jollyroger118]

Okay here we go, I think they need to shed their punk mentality to making music. I think the trilogy is testament that they have put themselves in a corner and felt as though they couldn't deviate from the simple structures and chords and all that good stuff. Now I love punk and personally to me Green Day IS what punk is meant to be. Heartfelt music that's simple and accessible and just good. But they don't have anything to prove anymore and I feel like it's holding them back, like the trilogy was them trying to prove (to themselves and us) that they're still those punky kids from long ago. They went backwards and it didn't feel natural. 21st was a good example of them really branching out and maturing and I think the backlash they received for "growing up" may have screwed with them a bit. Punks always gonna be their "ground zero" as I think Billie said but punk is pretty limiting when your actually TRYING to make punk music. Again the trilogy didn't feel natural it felt like they were trying to hard to make music that sounds punk which has always come natural to them before but it isn't the same no more. AI and 21st are great examples of punk being the backbone to the music and aesthetics yet allowing them to advance to places few bands have touched. The trilogy is a great example of punk being something they felt they had to be and therefore stifled some creativity. I've been thinking about this a couple of days now but I'm still not sure if I really worded it right. It's an abstract concept.

[Spike]

I'm so glad I was able to lend some sort of sense/dignity to that line

Also, Tom, the first time I ever heard "Mr. Brightside" I was with a bunch of people who already knew it and were singing along. Being an insecure teenager, I of course had to pretend I knew the lyrics and sing along. I totally sang "dick" instead of chest, because that's what my brain was expecting the line to end with. It was awful.

It's certainly a better explanation than "Bus routes can be long so it must be a reference to a big cock lol."

It's actually really upsetting that it's not "dick," so you have my sympathy. That does sound hilarious though.

[JOE THE X-KID]

Okay here we go, I think they need to shed their punk mentality to making music. I think the trilogy is testament that they have put themselves in a corner and felt as though they couldn't deviate from the simple structures and chords and all that good stuff. Now I love punk and personally to me Green Day IS what punk is meant to be. Heartfelt music that's simple and accessible and just good. But they don't have anything to prove anymore and I feel like it's holding them back, like the trilogy was them trying to prove (to themselves and us) that they're still those punky kids from long ago. They went backwards and it didn't feel natural. 21st was a good example of them really branching out and maturing and I think the backlash they received for "growing up" may have screwed with them a bit. Punks always gonna be their "ground zero" as I think Billie said but punk is pretty limiting when your actually TRYING to make punk music. Again the trilogy didn't feel natural it felt like they were trying to hard to make music that sounds punk which has always come natural to them before but it isn't the same no more. AI and 21st are great examples of punk being the backbone to the music and aesthetics yet allowing them to advance to places few bands have touched. The trilogy is a great example of punk being something they felt they had to be and therefore stifled some creativity. I've been thinking about this a couple of days now but I'm still not sure if I really worded it right. It's an abstract concept.

this is true.

[Spike]

I don't think they need to shed any kind of mentality beyond their lack of ability to discern what's a good song and what isn't. Quality control is the problem, not thinking they're punk.

[Jollyroger118]

To be fair quality control was never really a problem before the trilogy. A couple of songs on 21st I guess but they consistently put out excellent music for nigh 20 years. But yeah the trilogy was out of control but I'd bet they learned something from that or at least Rob Cavallo did lol. Even though my last post was kind of critical (though true IMO) I'll always be the first in line to hear their new stuff, there's a reason they've been my favorite band since I was like six and it's probably why I can be so objective but still love them. I do wish we could have heard the remixed guitar trilogy songs that Billie was talking about to see how much of a difference it would have made. Just a little EP or something.

[alexandra_1039]

just listening to 21st CB in full and just... come on, how can anyone not like that album. I guess thats just one of those things.... that albums fucking awesome front to back.

[Bastard of 1969]

just listening to 21st CB in full and just... come on, how can anyone not like that album. I guess thats just one of those things.... that albums fucking awesome front to back.

It really shows how much Green Day can do. Really amazing album.

Does anybody think that Dookie is waaaaaaaay fucking overrated? (and American Idiot)

[Cath]

Does anybody think that Dookie is waaaaaaaay fucking overrated? (and American Idiot)

no. to me there's a reason why these two albums have been huge. they're both awesome.

[Spike]

I don't think either album is overrated. Dookie is definitely overplayed, but that doesn't mean it's not jam packed with great songs, and obviously it was hugely influential. As for American Idiot, it's physically impossible for that album to be overrated. The remastered, uncompressed version is absolute perfection.

[alexandra_1039]

It really shows how much Green Day can do. Really amazing album.

Does anybody think that Dookie is waaaaaaaay fucking overrated? (and American Idiot)

for Dookie, with music in general yes. In my opinion I think like green days 2000s stuff much more. (dont kill me everybody) and i think they should get more attention for that instead of dookie. Maybe its because i grew up with american idiot and stuff, who knows. As for american idiot, personally its my favorite album so hmmmm idk.

But dont get me wrong I still adore dookie.

[Spike]

One thing I will say is that Dookie is probably their worst album lyrically, pre-Trilogy. Not that there's anything wrong with them, they're still very good in context, but the lyrics on every other album are far cleverer.

[Bastard of 1969]

One thing I will say is that Dookie is probably their worst album lyrically, pre-Trilogy. Not that there's anything wrong with them, they're still very good in context, but the lyrics on every other album are far cleverer.

Some of the songs even don't have an actual meaning. I'm gonna say that, and take "A Little Boy Named Train". (since we're talking about trilogy too). Meaning of song? Anyone?

[JOE THE X-KID]

Some of the songs even don't have an actual meaning. I'm gonna say that, and take "A Little Boy Named Train". (since we're talking about trilogy too). Meaning of song? Anyone?

Isnt it about a boy whos parents wanted him to be a girl or something, and they had his penis removed or something. i swear i read that in the Rolling Stone article?

[Bastard of 1969]

Isnt it about a boy whos parents wanted him to be a girl or something, and they had his penis removed or something. i swear i read that in the Rolling Stone article?

Proof or it doesn't exist.