Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[DookieLukie]

Sad that liking Green Day has become an unpopular opinion.

[Antonium2200]

Ceadog should've been the lead-singer of Green Day.

[Guest]

Ceadog should've been the lead-singer of Green Day.

Too bad I was just a very confused sperm in my daddy's balls when Kerplunk was recorded.

[Spike]

Ceadog should've been the lead-singer of Green Day.

We've already got one Flogging Molly, why do we need another one?

[Guest]

We've already got one Flogging Molly, why do we need another one?

See for reference: The Dropkick Murphys

[Spike]

See for reference: The Dropkick Murphys

Ah, The Dropkick Murphys. Celtic punk's equivalent to Fall Out Boy.

[Guest]

Ah, The Dropkick Murphys. Celtic punk's equivalent to Fall Out Boy.

As much as I love Celtic Punk, it really does all sound the fucking same. It's like Green Day with fiddles and bagpipes.

[Spike]

As much as I love Celtic Punk, it really does all sound the fucking same. It's like Green Day with fiddles and bagpipes.

Yeah, exactly. Bagpipes have no place in music unless it's KT Tunstall covering John Farnham. So they have a limited range of applications.

[Guest]

Yeah, exactly. Bagpipes have no place in music unless it's KT Tunstall covering John Farnham. So they have a limited range of applications.

Just hold out. It's worth it, I promise. It starts about 2.20 for those who can't wait.

[Spike]

Just hold out. It's worth it, I promise. It starts about 2.20 for those who can't wait.

It's like the Red Hot Chili Pipers all over again.

On a similar note, as much as I love Are We The Waiting live, the album version is inferior to the Vitamin String Quartet version. So there.

[Antonium2200]

It's like the Red Hot Chili Pipers all over again.

On a similar note, as much as I love Are We The Waiting live, the album version is inferior to the Vitamin String Quartet version. So there.

I do what I want.

[Spoopy Doo]

Brutal Love is 3/4 too, and I think there's another one that I'm forgetting. Still a pretty poor showing.

I thought Brutal Love was in tripleted 4/4. This tab says so, anyway: http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/green-day-brutal-love-tab-s384588t4

[Spike]

I thought Brutal Love was in tripleted 4/4. This tab says so, anyway: http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/green-day-brutal-love-tab-s384588t4

The vocal rhythm is a dead giveaway. It's 3/4, but it can be interpreted as 4/4 tripleted. It just doesn't make sense to write it that way when the vocals come in.

[Z J]

I always thought Brutal Love was 3/4.

And Panic Song, is incredibly layered and to me, their most complicated song. With the way the guitar parts rise and fall, and the drums follow. The bass speeds up, guitars get louder, then softer, all creating this anticipation for what is coming next. It makes you anxious and then it comes in sort of casually, the lyrics don't begin in a dramatic way like Viva La Gloria. Then they rip off some of the most poetic lyrics they've ever done. Don't know who had more to do with them, mike or billie, but it is a true masterpiece. Very true to its title it does create a little bit of a panicked feeling. Coolest thing ever: local hockey team played this song for entrance music. Beautiful.

I don't really care whether Green Day changes up time signatures. There are a million ways to be creative in a 4/4. If this was rap I'd care more about the beats per bar but it isn't. Biffy Clyro is an example always thrown out there for their time changes. But the music is so much more industrial/progressive rock sounding. The guitar riffs drive their songs. And they play around a lot more. But the songs aren't, to me anyway, as accessible or melodic as Green Day. Green Day is more into the rhythm section and harmonies at their foundation, not their lead guitar.

I like Biffy Clyro a lot, btw. Their guitar riffs are insanely melodic and interesting. There just isn't a need for Green Day to be Biffy Clyro. At all

[Anaïs.]

I really wish the guys would work with Butch Vig again. I don't often care for Wall of Sound-style production, but he really made it work for 21CB; it truly sounds epic in a lot of places.

[Z J]

I really wish the guys would work with Butch Vig again. I don't often care for Wall of Sound-style production, but he really made it work for 21CB; it truly sounds epic in a lot of places.

I think the intro to 21CB (song) is the most epic one they have.

[Spike]

I really wish the guys would work with Butch Vig again. I don't often care for Wall of Sound-style production, but he really made it work for 21CB; it truly sounds epic in a lot of places.

Yeah, I agree with that. The thing is though, I doubt it'd work for the Trilogy. The songs need the right arrangements, and the newer songs just don't have what's needed. I've always been intrigued to know what American Idiot would have sounded like if Butch had produced it. Obviously we'll never know, but imagine.

I think the intro to 21CB (song) is the most epic one they have.

I agree. Easily. The sound is so massive it makes Born To Run sound like a midi file. I think that song being omitted from their live shows for the last tour is the biggest tragedy in the history of music.

[Anaïs.]

Yeah, I agree with that. The thing is though, I doubt it'd work for the Trilogy. The songs need the right arrangements, and the newer songs just don't have what's needed. I've always been intrigued to know what American Idiot would have sounded like if Butch had produced it. Obviously we'll never know, but imagine.

The vinyl mix of "Homecoming" gives us a brief taste of what it might have been like—the TV static between "East 12th St." and "Nobody Likes You" sounds a lot like the sound effects throughout 21CB.

[Spike]

The vinyl mix of "Homecoming" gives us a brief taste of what it might have been like—the TV static between "East 12th St." and "Nobody Likes You" sounds a lot like the sound effects throughout 21CB.

Oh my god that's like my favourite musical moment ever. When I first heard that version I absolutely lost my shit.

[Z J]

I've always wondered what goes in to making their setlists. They chose some odd songs (to me, anyway) that they latch on to. I like Burnout but what makes it really that important that it is on the setlist every night, whereas songs like 21CB are taken away. Certain songs have to be there. Their chart toppers from the 90's: Basket Case, When I Come Around, Longview, Good Riddance. This AI/21CB generation of fans need to hear those songs live, I think. If you want to build a setlist that is fit for the crowd in front of you (as opposed to changing up the setlists frequently) then getting out a lot of the big hits is important I think. But there is room for flexibility. Songs like Burnout, Welcome To Paradise, and Letterbomb (unless they would play it ALL THE WAY THROUGH) are expendable to me. Songs like 21 Guns or American Eulogy are great live. Or Are We The Waiting. But they didn't get latched on to by the band. 21 Guns is an odd omission to me. Did they play it once this whole tour? It was their best selling song off their last album, and perhaps their most relevant song to the mainstream at the time of touring. Even WMUWSE found its way back for the festivals. Why were Nice Guys Finish Last and Waiting all of a sudden made in to staples (not a huge fan of either). Warning has quite a few other choices. Macy's Day Parade being one I'd love to hear more often or Castaway. St Jimmy is always played, yet there are a handful of songs on that album alone I'd rather hear live.

I think they could do with shaking up the middle a little bit. They have so many hit songs but their are places in the setlist where they could afford to mix it up. Always wondered who decides on the setlists and what goes in to the decison

[WhiteTim]

I'd say Burnout is included and not 21st is length wise lol

[Spike]

I've always wondered what goes in to making their setlists. They chose some odd songs (to me, anyway) that they latch on to. I like Burnout but what makes it really that important that it is on the setlist every night, whereas songs like 21CB are taken away. Certain songs have to be there. Their chart toppers from the 90's: Basket Case, When I Come Around, Longview, Good Riddance. This AI/21CB generation of fans need to hear those songs live, I think. If you want to build a setlist that is fit for the crowd in front of you (as opposed to changing up the setlists frequently) then getting out a lot of the big hits is important I think. But there is room for flexibility. Songs like Burnout, Welcome To Paradise, and Letterbomb (unless they would play it ALL THE WAY THROUGH) are expendable to me. Songs like 21 Guns or American Eulogy are great live. Or Are We The Waiting. But they didn't get latched on to by the band. 21 Guns is an odd omission to me. Did they play it once this whole tour? It was their best selling song off their last album, and perhaps their most relevant song to the mainstream at the time of touring. Even WMUWSE found its way back for the festivals. Why were Nice Guys Finish Last and Waiting all of a sudden made in to staples (not a huge fan of either). Warning has quite a few other choices. Macy's Day Parade being one I'd love to hear more often or Castaway. St Jimmy is always played, yet there are a handful of songs on that album alone I'd rather hear live.

I think they could do with shaking up the middle a little bit. They have so many hit songs but their are places in the setlist where they could afford to mix it up. Always wondered who decides on the setlists and what goes in to the decison

I think it's essentially the songs Billie can remember the words to

But yeah, the routine omission of 21st Century Breakdown, Homecoming, Scattered, Redundant and the vast majority of Insomniac, to make way for St Jimmy, King For A Day, the annoying Brain Stew intro and Know Your Enemy is absolutely criminal.

[Anaïs.]

21 Guns is an odd omission to me. Did they play it once this whole tour? It was their best selling song off their last album, and perhaps their most relevant song to the mainstream at the time of touring.

I would much rather hear 21 Guns than Boulevard of Broken Dreams. The latter is the song that first got me into Green Day, but now I'm fucking sick of it. Don't know if Billie's voice could handle 21 Guns nowadays, though, let's face it.

I think they could do with shaking up the middle a little bit. They have so many hit songs but their are places in the setlist where they could afford to mix it up. Always wondered who decides on the setlists and what goes in to the decison

What goes into it is that they only choose the songs that Billie can be arsed to remember the lyrics for.

GODDAMIT, BILLIE, IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO SING STUART AND THE AVE. WITHOUT FUCKING IT UP.

[Spike]

I would much rather hear 21 Guns than Boulevard of Broken Dreams. It's the song that first got me into Green Day, but now I'm fucking sick of it. Don't know if Billie's voice could handle 21 Guns nowadays, though, let's face it.

If he can sing the stuff on Foreverly he can do 21 Guns. I hate, hate, hate the album version but the live version is absolutely epic. As much as I absolutely love BOBD, it needs the tremolo guitar. It's got absolutely no balls without it and the recent live versions suck as a result. Doing both BOBD and 21 Guns in one show would be unnecessary as they're basically the same song.

What goes into it is that they only choose the songs that Billie can be arsed to remember the lyrics for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndorULfjtnM

[Anaïs.]

Dear Christ. I want to throw a bicycle at his crotch and then set it on fire.