Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Flyingdonutz]

The only good album they ever did was Back In Black, and even that's worn thin because every.single.fucking.album since then has sounded just the same.

Black Ice was pretty good. FTATR is also good. IMO they're an essential piece to rock history, but not something anyone could call the best band ever. To me they're on the same level as a band like Green Day or Pearl Jam or something. They aren't really better instrumentally it's just.. they have such a huge impact so it's hard to leave them out when you're talking about epic rock bands.

[Spike]

Black Ice was pretty good. FTATR is also good. IMO they're an essential piece to rock history, but not something anyone could call the best band ever. To me they're on the same level as a band like Green Day or Pearl Jam or something. They aren't really better instrumentally it's just.. they have such a huge impact so it's hard to leave them out when you're talking about epic rock bands.

That's true, I was shocked by Black Ice because I was actually really into it. Yeah, I agree with what you're saying entirely. But they could have done it with one album

[Z J]

Green Day compared to other punk bands instrumentally is an easy win for Green Day. But when you start trying to compare Billie and Jimmy Page your not gonna get a fair fight. Classic rock is so much more complex (usually) both in vocal and instrumental components.

There's almost no point in comparing them because Green Day will never win.

[fromdecimateddreams]

I think it was unfair to take that out of context. Billie's primarily a rhythm player, and rhythm guitarists are inherently less impressive than lead.

Not necessarily true. Just because someone isn't in the spotlight playing the lead guitar doesn't mean that they're not as good as whoever is playing lead. They just don't get showcased as much because they're not in the forefront. The parts they play are less impressive, yes, but their talent is not.

[Starred Thoughts]

so Jaret Reddick, lead singer of Bowling For Soup, posted this on facebook this morning:

I make up my own words to Greenday songs...23 years I've been listening and still can't understand a fucking thing he says.

just thought it was funny. He is indeed a fan, as he has mentioned many times before this. You can imagine the slue of "omg lyke y wud u h8 greenday" comments on it, but I think it was clearly a lighthearted statement.

[Spike]

Not necessarily true. Just because someone isn't in the spotlight playing the lead guitar doesn't mean that they're not as good as whoever is playing lead. They just don't get showcased as much because they're not in the forefront. The parts they play are less impressive, yes, but their talent is not.

That's what I mean, they don't get to showcase it. A lot of people would be more interested in a band's lead guitarist than rhythm regardless of the skill of either of them just became lead is more flashy. Look at the Rolling Stones, I think Ronnie is a better rhythm player than Keith is a lead player, but look who gets more attention.

[fromdecimateddreams]

That's what I mean, they don't get to showcase it. A lot of people would be more interested in a band's lead guitarist than rhythm regardless of the skill of either of them just became lead is more flashy. Look at the Rolling Stones, I think Ronnie is a better rhythm player than Keith is a lead player, but look who gets more attention.

Oh, okay. I misread it as rhythm guitarists are less impressive because they're not as talented, not what you actually meant. Sorry about the confusion.

[Spike]

Oh, okay. I misread it as rhythm guitarists are less impressive because they're not as talented, not what you actually meant. Sorry about the confusion.

I think my phrasing might have unintentionally suggested that It's cool.

[munns6691]

Thing is, I like the way Billie and Green Day play their songs and guitair riffs. If it were more generic lead gutair sounding I wouldn't like them as much

[Slydren]

Thing is, I like the way Billie and Green Day play their songs and guitair riffs. If it were more generic lead gutair sounding I wouldn't like them as much

True. Very true

[Anaïs.]

I don't think "Lazy Bones" is all that great.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

I don't think "Lazy Bones" is all that great.

Its probably more significant because of rehab. People will relate the song to billie's troubles at the time idk

[Z J]

I think Lazy Bones is a classic Green Day song because it is:

Simple instrumentally

Melodic

simple lyrically

genius lyrically

relatable lyrically.

it stands out as one of the few inspired songs on a very uninspired effort by Green Day

[The Disappearing Boy]

I don't think "Lazy Bones" is all that great.

Do tell me, what is it like to be wrong?

[Hermione]

I think Lazy Bones is a classic Green Day song because it is:

Simple instrumentally

Melodic

simple lyrically

genius lyrically

relatable lyrically.

it stands out as one of the few inspired songs on a very uninspired effort by Green Day

I agree about Lazy Bones. How can you know how inspired any of the songs are though? Billie has indicated in interviews about the albums that the lyrics come from his real thoughts and feelings and the whole band has indicated that the songs came flying out and they had great fun making them. Everything they've said and done points to them being very much inspired. Not least the fact that they're a band who write songs because they want to and not to please anyone else so if a song wasn't inspired they wouldn't have any reason to spend days and weeks writing and recording it

[The Grouch is Tracy]

I don't think "Lazy Bones" is all that great.

I do think it's great for the same reasons that I think most Green Day songs are great: they sound great, and are very very very easy to relate to!

[Cath]

lazy bones is one of the few great songs on the trilogy! really love this one

[UNICORN VOMIT]

Taking this over from another thread - I am sick of the sellout idea. Just because they have made money doesn't make them not have the same ideals. Billie said in an interview I remember - in 99 Rev when he wrote it he was on two sides - he believed in the 99% but he was also a 1% because he had money and he could afford to send his kids to private schools.

Also I can't stand when people say he can't write about certain things because he is now 41.

You will soon leave him nothing to write about because he is getting older and has made lots of money.

Rant over.

[Z J]

I agree about Lazy Bones. How can you know how inspired any of the songs are though? Billie has indicated in interviews about the albums that the lyrics come from his real thoughts and feelings and the whole band has indicated that the songs came flying out and they had great fun making them. Everything they've said and done points to them being very much inspired. Not least the fact that they're a band who write songs because they want to and not to please anyone else so if a song wasn't inspired they wouldn't have any reason to spend days and weeks writing and recording it

I think you assume that everything out of Billie's mouth is true. He's obliged to say everything he writes is real and inspired. But when you release 3 full albums at the same time, you're bound to find material that doesn't quite match your usual output.

Just look at how they describe making Missing You, proof right there that they don't care for all songs the same. And that's what they allowed to be on camera. Some are written with different levels of interest than others. Some lyrics on the trilogy just lack creativity. The Forgotten, Makeout Party, and ALBNT come to mind immediately.

I'm not saying they're making the songs to please anyone, I'm saying that certain songs are just lacking the usual witticism, creativity, humor, or intelligence that we see on other albums.

[UNICORN VOMIT]

I like makeout party - its one of those songs that people say he shouldnt be writing about cause of his age. But as the clip in cuatro shows it is a makeout party on another dimension. Totally fits DOS. I sure as hell as a teenager wasn't playing spin the bottle and doing lines - maybe it has changed.

[Z J]

I like makeout party - its one of those songs that people say he shouldnt be writing about cause of his age. But as the clip in cuatro shows it is a makeout party on another dimension. Totally fits DOS. I sure as hell as a teenager wasn't playing spin the bottle and doing lines - maybe it has changed.

lame rhyme scheme and not a very creative chorus. Compared to something like Blood Sex and Booze, similar topic matter but the lyrics are written much better

[PleasedToMeetMe]

I like makeout party - its one of those songs that people say he shouldnt be writing about cause of his age. But as the clip in cuatro shows it is a makeout party on another dimension. Totally fits DOS. I sure as hell as a teenager wasn't playing spin the bottle and doing lines - maybe it has changed.

I love Makeout Party. I think it's one of the best songs Green Day has ever written. It rocks so goddamn hard!

[Hermione]

I think you assume that everything out of Billie's mouth is true. He's obliged to say everything he writes is real and inspired. But when you release 3 full albums at the same time, you're bound to find material that doesn't quite match your usual output.

Just look at how they describe making Missing You, proof right there that they don't care for all songs the same. And that's what they allowed to be on camera. Some are written with different levels of interest than others. Some lyrics on the trilogy just lack creativity. The Forgotten, Makeout Party, and ALBNT come to mind immediately.

I'm not saying they're making the songs to please anyone, I'm saying that certain songs are just lacking the usual witticism, creativity, humor, or intelligence that we see on other albums.

To me inspired just means it came from a real place and was written for artistic reasons rather than to please anyone or fill an album (which seems particularly unlikely in this case since they could've just stopped at one album's worth of songs!), and going by everything they've said and done regarding the albums and knowing what they're like I'd say they're definitely inspired in that sense. The rest (whether it has witticism, creativity etc) is much more a matter of taste and opinion and where a lot of people clearly disagree haha. I don't think whether it turned out people thought it was good or liked it or not has much bearing on whether it came from an inspired place or not though. even if something turns out terribly it doesn't mean it wasn't inspired.

[walking_c0ntradicti0n]

i feel like im gonna say this to see what you guys have to say to him. my dad said know your enemy is the best song on 21CB when it came on at the fox theater show.

[Spoopy Doo]

i feel like im gonna say this to see what you guys have to say to him. my dad said know your enemy is the best song on 21CB when it came on at the fox theater show.

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