Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Hermione]

Unpopular opinion and probably a very bad idea, but, just for those of us who are stuck working retail and unpacking Christmas crap and listening crap holiday music already......

How about a Christmas album from Green Day! Think of all the cheesy songs that could be on it.......

Rudolph the insecure and chronically insomniac reindeer,

I Saw Mommy Fucking Santa Claus

Won't those Shitty bells ever shut up?

Etc.

They already made one! A dirty one . While they were making American Idiot they were in a super creative and experimental mood, and apparently that included writing and recording a whole album's worth of dirty Christmas songs, which they unfortunately haven't shared with us. What I wouldn't give to hear it!

[Zelda]

They already made one! A dirty one . While they were making American Idiot they were in a super creative and experimental mood, and apparently that included writing and recording a whole album's worth of dirty Christmas songs, which they unfortunately haven't shared with us. What I wouldn't give to hear it!

WHAT I've never heard anything about this. When did they mention it?

[Iva]

This whole discussion apart from the first post and what Hannah said is invalid because of waaaaay too much consumerism on it.

A side note: I have not heard of All Time Low before coming to this forum and finding out a band with such a name was supporting Green Day. I still haven't heard any song by them and the only New Found Glory song I know is their cover of Sixpence None The Richer's Kiss Me. I must be an alien, for having over 3400 artists on my last.fm and not being informed of this.

I think the way we often pick music is wrong - we let sales and radio plays affect our opinion, rather than exploration and discovery.

[The Disappearing Boy]

recycled Shoplifter?

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[Guest]

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Are you literally the only person on this entire forum who doesn't hear Shoplifter from "calling all demons..."? Its exactly the same melody. Pretty sure it's even in the same key.

[Hermione]

Just remembered there's an album called "The Green Days of Christmas", which is Christmassy instrumental versions of Green Day songs. Not quite as good as a Christmas album by the band but pretty cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQJbhtalPJY

WHAT I've never heard anything about this. When did they mention it?

I don't know exactly where I'm afraid, but it was in AI era interviews where they talked about how they were filled with creative energy and tried out making loads and loads of music in different crazy styles during the time they were working on the album. They just mentioned that one of the many things they did was a dirty Christmas album. They also said they made a pirate radio station and broadcast some of the songs on there.

[Zelda]

Just remembered there's an album called "The Green Days of Christmas", which is Christmassy instrumental versions of Green Day songs. Not quite as good as a Christmas album by the band but pretty cool:

I don't know exactly where I'm afraid, but it was in AI era interviews where they talked about how they were filled with creative energy and tried out making loads and loads of music in different crazy styles during the time they were working on the album. They just mentioned that one of the many things they did was a dirty Christmas album. They also said they made a pirate radio station and broadcast some of the songs on there.

Damn. Just another reason to regret missing those glorious days. Hopefully they decide to release some of that music in the future.

[tdlyon]

Don't know if I've said this in here already but Dookie is one of my least favorite Green Day albums. The only ones I like it better than are 39/Smooth, Kerplunk, and Insomniac. Actually, the point where I start loving GD albums instead of just liking is Nimrod.

[Z J]

What's incredible about American Idiot is the type of music that was brought in to mainstream America. As Miley Cyrus as kindly (and correctly) pointed out numerous times, America has awful taste in music. If you look on the Billboard 200 or on iTunes, the artist range from country to dance music to hip-hop, to pop garbage. But there is no rock music. Maybe some soft rock crap, if you even want to call Matchbox 20 that much. There is no rock and there is almost certainly no punk music or any derivative of the genre. Since 2000 or so this has been true. There is no mainstream rock anymore. Very few bands cross the threshold. Green Day did, with not one, not two, not 3, but 4 commercially successful singles (AI, Holiday, Bobd, and WMUWSE. With the fifth single, Jesus of Suburbia, being arguably one of the best punk rock songs ever written. The album was not a flash in the pan, the band did not sell out, and it still managed to capture the radiowaves and attention of the nation at a time when seemingly no rock band could. And not many have done so since.

Also, Idk how anyone could call the trilogy better than AI......I mean I get opinions and all.....but really.

[WhiteTim]

What's incredible about American Idiot is the type of music that was brought in to mainstream America. As Miley Cyrus as kindly (and correctly) pointed out numerous times, America has awful taste in music. If you look on the Billboard 200 or on iTunes, the artist range from country to dance music to hip-hop, to pop garbage. But there is no rock music. Maybe some soft rock crap, if you even want to call Matchbox 20 that much. There is no rock and there is almost certainly no punk music or any derivative of the genre. Since 2000 or so this has been true. There is no mainstream rock anymore. Very few bands cross the threshold. Green Day did, with not one, not two, not 3, but 4 commercially successful singles (AI, Holiday, Bobd, and WMUWSE. With the fifth single, Jesus of Suburbia, being arguably one of the best punk rock songs ever written. The album was not a flash in the pan, the band did not sell out, and it still managed to capture the radiowaves and attention of the nation at a time when seemingly no rock band could. And not many have done so since.

Also, Idk how anyone could call the trilogy better than AI......I mean I get opinions and all.....but really.

But Nickelback Creed ruled the charts in the early 2000's as well...

AI didn't change the music industry as others have claimed there is NOTHING zero zilch that's on AI that has not been done before musically or otherwise not to take away from the 16 million sales

And all the america has bad taste just cause you don't like other genres doesn't mean people have bad tastes...

[Zelda]

And all the america has bad taste just cause you don't like other genres doesn't mean people have bad tastes...

I want to quote this forever and ever.

[fromdecimateddreams]

I don't really like Longview. And I kinda feel weird cause so many people rave about it like it's this absolutely amazing masterpiece of music and I dunno, it's just never appealed to me that much and I usually skip it if it comes up on my iTunes or something.

Except for the bass line. The bass is fucking epic.

[Spike]

I don't really like Longview. And I kinda feel weird cause so many people rave about it like it's this absolutely amazing masterpiece of music and I dunno, it's just never appealed to me that much and I usually skip it if it comes up on my iTunes or something.

Except for the bass line. The bass is fucking epic.

It's definitely overrated. I mean, nothing wrong with it, and that bassline is pure sex, but it's certainly not one of the stronger songs on Dookie. I do LOVE that outro noodly guitar riff though.

[Anaïs.]

It's definitely overrated. I mean, nothing wrong with it, and that bassline is pure sex, but it's certainly not one of the stronger songs on Dookie. I do LOVE that outro noodly guitar riff though.

I've never gotten why people say that. "Sassafras Roots" is weak. "F.O.D." is weak. But "Longview"?

[Spike]

I've never gotten why people say that. "Sassafras Roots" is weak. "F.O.D." is weak. But "Longview"?

I think I actually prefer the bassline in Sassafras Roots to Longview

Honestly though, I wouldn't put Longview in my top 10 favourite songs from Dookie. The verses just feel kind of slow and lumbering, probably something to do with the lack of snare combined by weird vocal melody. I know that's the point, given the lyric, but I just find it kind of boring. It seems a bit jarring with the rest of the album given the energy of all the other songs.

[Iva]

Having A Blast IS the most incredible song on the album, regardless of how perfect the singles are.

[Z J]

But Nickelback Creed ruled the charts in the early 2000's as well...

AI didn't change the music industry as others have claimed there is NOTHING zero zilch that's on AI that has not been done before musically or otherwise not to take away from the 16 million sales

And all the america has bad taste just cause you don't like other genres doesn't mean people have bad tastes...

I'm sorry but we are talking about the country that has done all of the following:

Made Katy Perry a star

Made Justin Bieber one of the most popular people in the world

Gave Miley Cyrus a handful of number one singles

Gave Lil Wayne a number a number one songs

Made One Direction in to the biggest boy band in the world

Our top 40 radio has more songs with fake dance music mixed with shit rapping than any other country

Oh and for some reason we let Nicki Minaj judge our musical talent.

There is so so much more. We have a bad taste in a very general, but very real sense. So anybody that can breakthrough to the mindless masses is doing something shocking.

BTW, did you miss the part where I said soft rock crap, well you could argue that for Nickelback. Regardless, both Creed and Nickelback were able to do the improbable as well. So naming two bands is proving my point. It's hard to do. I'm not saying nor have I ever said AI was some musical revolution. I'm saying it did something few others can do. And really did something that was unprecedented by punk rock. What other punk rock operas are there? And which ones did well? Nevertheless succeed in today's synth-pop music industry. It's special.

[WhiteTim]

I'm sorry but we are talking about the country that has done all of the following:

Made Katy Perry a star

Made Justin Bieber one of the most popular people in the world

Gave Miley Cyrus a handful of number one singles

Gave Lil Wayne a number a number one songs

Made One Direction in to the biggest boy band in the world

Our top 40 radio has more songs with fake dance music mixed with shit rapping than any other country

Oh and for some reason we let Nicki Minaj judge our musical talent.

There is so so much more. We have a bad taste in a very general, but very real sense. So anybody that can breakthrough to the mindless masses is doing something shocking.

BTW, did you miss the part where I said soft rock crap, well you could argue that for Nickelback. Regardless, both Creed and Nickelback were able to do the improbable as well. So naming two bands is proving my point. It's hard to do. I'm not saying nor have I ever said AI was some musical revolution. I'm saying it did something few others can do. And really did something that was unprecedented by punk rock. What other punk rock operas are there? And which ones did well? Nevertheless succeed in today's synth-pop music industry. It's special.

Wayne before the drugs was actually a good rapper

One Direction blew up in the UK first

And Perry has some good songs like I said just because YOU don't like other genres doesn't make em bad or horrible artists...

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

BTW, did you miss the part where I said soft rock crap, well you could argue that for Nickelback. Regardless, both Creed and Nickelback were able to do the improbable as well. So naming two bands is proving my point. It's hard to do. I'm not saying nor have I ever said AI was some musical revolution. I'm saying it did something few others can do. And really did something that was unprecedented by punk rock. What other punk rock operas are there? And which ones did well? Nevertheless succeed in today's synth-pop music industry. It's special.

Only this year Queens of The Stoone Age, Black Sabbath, Avenged Sevonfold and Bon Jovi made number one on Billboard 200. Fall Out Boy too i think. It's not that unique to be successful rock band

[The Disappearing Boy]

Are you literally the only person on this entire forum who doesn't hear Shoplifter from "calling all demons..."? Its exactly the same melody. Pretty sure it's even in the same key.

I've always thought that most similarities people point out are pretty tenuous, I can hear the similarity between those songs, but to me it just isn't that obvious.

[Guest]

I've always thought that most similarities people point out are pretty tenuous, I can hear the similarity between those songs, but to me it just isn't that obvious.

I dunno. The melody is the same. I don't know if you play an instrument, but try playing the two songs, you'll see what I mean.

Just look at the two top comments on Shoplifter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9USSu3hrz8

[The Disappearing Boy]

I dunno. The melody is the same. I don't know if you play an instrument, but try playing the two songs, you'll see what I mean.

Just look at the two top comments on Shoplifter

Thinking about it, the two do have the same chord progression and DRB is one semitone higher, so there are similarities there. As for the vocal melody, there is less of a similarity for me. And as for Amy like one of those commenters said? What are they smoking?

[Guest]

Thinking about it, the two do have the same chord progression and DRB is one semitone higher, so there are similarities there. As for the vocal melody, there is less of a similarity for me. And as for Amy like one of those commenters said? What are they smoking?

The choruses of the two songs are identical

The more you discover these things, the more irritated you get at Billie for being a lazy songwriter

[SmoothedOut]

I think the way we often pick music is wrong - we let sales and radio plays affect our opinion, rather than exploration and discovery.

I've never even heard a One Direction song in full. I've never heard enough of them to hate (or love) them like everyone else does. I think it's mainly because I'm never out there where all that music is being released or played (thankfully). I don't think it matters whether rock is in the mainstream or not. It should be where it really comes from - with the people. I strongly believe in identity. Rock can be appreciated by everyone and by all sorts of people. But for some, only to a certain extent. You see people out there who like a song only because it sounds cool but and not because of the idea of the song or for actually liking the band. I really hate that. People start to take a liking in everything, nipping the cool bits from everything they see or hear and chuck it into their shopping carts while rejecting more than just the cool bits.

And to those saying America has awful taste in music, I beg to differ. There are very few countries out there that try something new in music or are at all influential. Where I come from, there aren't any 924 Gilman Streets or CBGB's. There's very little diversity. Most of the time, you're forced to ride the bandwagon of life and take in everything that's thrown at you.

[The Disappearing Boy]

The choruses of the two songs are identical

The more you discover these things, the more irritated you get at Billie for being a lazy songwriter

You mean 'here's to all god's losers...' and 'it's not considered stealing...'? Again I see a (very) slight similarity with the vocal melody, but the chords are completely different.