Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Hermione]

but the difference is carpe diem is cliche after cliche with no feeling behind it and while some of the stay the night lyrics are a bit cheesy they're easy to relate to and you can tell they're coming from a real place

Ah come on just because a feeling is expressed through a cliched phrase it doesn't mean it isn't real, this is Billie we're talking about . I don't think he's ever been concerned enough about being cool to care if a lyric sounds a bit cliched as long as he means it and it feels right. Besides, in Carpe Diem he acknowledges the cliched nature of the lyrics ("living a cliche"). That bit of self awareness and humour about it more than makes up for it for me, the fact that he's doing it knowingly and with a little self deprecating wink cancels it out.

[jimmy182]

something thats really bugging me about Green Day at the minute is the amount of Hey-Ohs Billie does when they play live, its always awesome to have a bit of a mass hey-oh chant but seriously at the Emirates and in particular Brixton the amount of hey-ohs is too damn high, watching them live on tv at Reading they really became cringe worthy when in the middle of pretty much every song theres the standard hey-oh and they always seem so rehearsed too. Also Billies rehearsed "rants" are getting cringeworthy too

[Sarcasm]

something thats really bugging me about Green Day at the minute is the amount of Hey-Ohs Billie does when they play live, its always awesome to have a bit of a mass hey-oh chant but seriously at the Emirates and in particular Brixton the amount of hey-ohs is too damn high, watching them live on tv at Reading they really became cringe worthy when in the middle of pretty much every song theres the standard hey-oh and they always seem so rehearsed too. Also Billies rehearsed "rants" are getting cringeworthy too

He did kind of turn into a priest in a Catholic church in Texas after rehab. The whole, "this life is a celebration, let's love god and it's green earth and have fuuuuuuun", also the "wall of hugs".

It's kind of cringy, but if you're at the show it's mostly ok. If I'm watching the show on youtube or I downloaded it, I skip the majority of the HEY OOOOHs.

[Guest]

something thats really bugging me about Green Day at the minute is the amount of Hey-Ohs Billie does when they play live, its always awesome to have a bit of a mass hey-oh chant but seriously at the Emirates and in particular Brixton the amount of hey-ohs is too damn high, watching them live on tv at Reading they really became cringe worthy when in the middle of pretty much every song theres the standard hey-oh and they always seem so rehearsed too. Also Billies rehearsed "rants" are getting cringeworthy too

I actually thought he really cut down on the hey ohs at Brixton

I agree about the rants though, next thing you know he'll be bringing out flashcards in case he misses the bit about how much he hates doing laundry.

[Nova-Caine]

I actually thought he really cut down on the hey ohs at Brixton

I agree about the rants though, next thing you know he'll be bringing out flashcards in case he misses the bit about how much he hates doing laundry.

The rants actually makes me want to slap him, agree about the Hey Ho's though defo cut down, I reckon he's been reading our moaning thread on the IC sorry IN seems to have worked with the panto that is KFAD lol

I enjoy Stay the Night a lot. It's super fun to listen to while in the car, I gotta say. The lyrics are extremely cheesy and should be sung by a 20 year old, not a 40 year old married guy, but that's a different matter. Sound-wise, I love the song. Very catching and fun.

I thought I was the only person who didn't like The Forgotten! It's just so... not good. Very, very, VERY slow and it really doesn't sound at all like a song I'd expect to hear (or want to hear, for that matter) from Green Day.

Why should the lyrics been sang by a 20 year old? How does a 20 year old know if their first love is the one that got away until they've lived a few years, I think its a perfectly plausible lyric for him to write, you think back over a whole lot of shit when you turn the big 40, esp about how your life has turned out.

It's probably one of my fave songs they've done in a long time.

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[Nova-Caine]

OY I didn't know you lurked over here on GDC

And yeah, it's fun to think that Billie reads through all our bitching as he tries to decide what to do next with the shows

I'm quite sure he doesn't and its one huge coincidence

[Ritz]

Billie should be a little bit angry.

he's too sweet and stuff when playing live nowadays,.

[Nova-Caine]

Billie should be a little bit angry.

he's too sweet and stuff when playing live nowadays,.

Probably because he's no longer under the influence of anything, drink and drugs don't make for nice people when done to the extreme :/

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[Guest]

I think I said this a few pages back, but angry Billie = good songwriter Billie. He was very content and satisfied and laidback during the writing process for the Trilogy, there wasn't any conflict or frustration being channeled into the lyrics, and as a result they're overwhelmingly bland.

[Nova-Caine]

I think I said this a few pages back, but angry Billie = good songwriter Billie. He was very content and satisfied and laidback during the writing process for the Trilogy, there wasn't any conflict or frustration being channeled into the lyrics, and as a result they're overwhelmingly bland.

I disagree, ok they're not his usual angry political rants but they're obviously very personal lyrics, the meltdown and problems with drink/drugs whatever it was didn't happen over night, he was obviously in a bad place personally, he seemed depressed and lonely also searching for something, wanting and needing to feel again, I think there's more to the lyrics than just throw way lines the more I listen to them.

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[Guest]

I disagree, ok they're not his usual angry political rants but they're obviously very personal lyrics, the meltdown and problems with drink/drugs whatever it was didn't happen over night, he was obviously in a bad place personally, he seemed depressed and lonely also searching for something, wanting and needing to feel again, I think there's more to the lyrics than just throw way lines the more I listen to them.

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I'm actually the exact opposite, the more I listen to them the more empty and soulless the lyrics sound. The parts where his depression and emotions shine through, such as on Lazy Bones, Missing You, and X Kid, are as good as anything Green Day have ever done, but the rest just aren't. He's been struggling with drink and drugs for almost 20 years, and he's written much more eloquently about it than the crap that he just churned out.

[Nova-Caine]

I'm actually the exact opposite, the more I listen to them the more empty and soulless the lyrics sound. The parts where his depression and emotions shine through, such as on Lazy Bones, Missing You, and X Kid, are as good as anything Green Day have ever done, but the rest just aren't. He's been struggling with drink and drugs for almost 20 years, and he's written much more eloquently about it than the crap that he just churned out.

His most productive meltdown and I can't believe I am saying this was before AI and how we got St Jimmy, I know what you're saying and agree to a certain extent I just don't feel the lyrics are empty.

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[The Disappearing Boy]

This'll spark debate:

On Breakdown and the Trilogy they produced their worst/least memorable music ever.

[WhiteTim]

This'll spark debate:

On Breakdown and the Trilogy they produced their worst/least memorable music ever.

Lay the pipe down

[Guest]

This'll spark debate:

On Breakdown and the Trilogy they produced their worst/least memorable music ever.

You sir, are

beating a dead horse, you idiots

[Anaïs.]

"Prosthetic Head" is my favorite album closer that the band's done. "Whatsername" is a close second, but I don't love it quite as much.

[jacknovella]

I know I'm hella late to weigh in on the Blink 182 thing, but here's a quote from Billie Joe about it:

"I don't feel like anybody owes me anything. When I hear Blink 182, I don't think they sound like Green Day. I think they sound like NOFX. There are so many subfactions of punk rock right now - at least three different styles of playing pop punk music. I think it would be unfair to them and us to really compare us. That would be like saying that all hip-hop or all country music sounds the same."

[Spike]

I know I'm hella late to weigh in on the Blink 182 thing, but here's a quote from Billie Joe about it:

"I don't feel like anybody owes me anything. When I hear Blink 182, I don't think they sound like Green Day. I think they sound like NOFX. There are so many subfactions of punk rock right now - at least three different styles of playing pop punk music. I think it would be unfair to them and us to really compare us. That would be like saying that all hip-hop or all country music sounds the same."

You had me until country music doesn't all sound the same

[jacknovella]

You had me until country music doesn't all sound the same

Billie had you

[Spike]

Billie had you

Ooh lucky me

[Tubbie Head]

No band sounds like Green Day for me. And I kinda hate all the bands that people associate with Green Day. I really don't know why but I can't stand any of the pop punk (or whatever it is GD are categorized in).

[Guest]

A lot of pop-punk bands TRY to sound like Green Day, and none of them come close, really. It's quite cringey.

I always thought that Jawbreaker, especially on Dear You, came closest to being somewhat near to GD's sound, but that was definitely not intentional.

[Anaïs.]

Here's one: American Idiot is my favorite Green Day album, but I don't listen to it very often. This is because I can't just listen to one of the songs if it comes up on shuffle (with the exceptions of the title track, "St. Jimmy" and "She's a Rebel"); I feel like, for each of the songs to have maximum emotional impact, I have to listen to the full story. So most times I skip AI songs if they come up on shuffle, and then once a week or so play the entire album front to back—just sit down on my bed with some headphones and absorb the whole thing. In terms of just sheer listenability, Nimrod will always be my favorite album of the band's; I can listen to the whole thing straight through, or enjoy every single one of the songs if they happen to come up on shuffle. It's the one I listen to most while driving, in fact (can't follow the travails of Jesus and St. Jimmy and pay attention to traffic simultaneously ).

[munns6691]

This'll spark debate:

On Breakdown and the Trilogy they produced their worst/least memorable music ever.

I disagree with you. 21st CB is very memorable and the Trilogy has Lazy Bones and Brutal Love both of which are good and memorable.

[SmoothedOut]

I think I said this a few pages back, but angry Billie = good songwriter Billie. He was very content and satisfied and laidback during the writing process for the Trilogy, there wasn't any conflict or frustration being channeled into the lyrics, and as a result they're overwhelmingly bland.

I agree. A lot of the stuff on the trilogy just doesn't feel true the Green Day we know. Some are just plain bland. The stuff they sang before all the politics... makes you wonder if they were the same band.

I know I'm hella late to weigh in on the Blink 182 thing, but here's a quote from Billie Joe about it:

"I don't feel like anybody owes me anything. When I hear Blink 182, I don't think they sound like Green Day. I think they sound like NOFX. There are so many subfactions of punk rock right now - at least three different styles of playing pop punk music. I think it would be unfair to them and us to really compare us. That would be like saying that all hip-hop or all country music sounds the same."

There are different subfactions of punk rock. It's just Green Day's is the best type. Fills into the same category of - the Ramones, the Queers, the Muffs, Operation Ivy, any many more great bands.