Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Spoopy Doo]

Back to Green Day, who else has heard the American Idiot radio edit that cuts the solo out?! It's only 2:54 to start with!

I didn't know it cut out the solo, but I don't think "faggot" is edited out anymore.

[tdlyon]

Faggot is still edited out when I hear American Idiot on the radio (they put that beep sound effect in), but they usually leave fags in Holiday.

[belinda jane]

Faggot is still edited out when I hear American Idiot on the radio (they put that beep sound effect in), but they usually leave fags in Holiday.

they edit out "zeig heil" in holiday here.

[DookieLukie]

That's the thing, Dookie is certainly not underground, not with 20 mil copies sold, but in terms of popularity, Green Day pales into insignificance next to band like One Direction, Westlife or even the Beatles or the Stones. In that sense I wouldn't call Dookie exactly mainstream.

Green Day will be remembered much longer and more fondly than One Direction or Westlife...please!

[Ham Pascale]

"Everybody loves a joke but no one likes a fool / And you always cracking the same old lines again" line is about Tre Cool.

[Hermione]

"Everybody loves a joke but no one likes a fool / And you always cracking the same old lines again" line is about Tre Cool.

That would be pretty rude of Billie lol. I've heard it's about Blink 182.

[SumDay]

"Everybody loves a joke but no one likes a fool / And you always cracking the same old lines again" line is about Tre Cool.

That would be pretty rude of Billie lol. I've heard it's about Blink 182.

Yeha I think it's about Tom DeLonge.

But I don't get why..

You know, they were together on a tour and it was awkward as fuck. Just take the scene where Billie and Mark have a "conversation" just fucking small talk for the camera.

Does somebody know why they don't like each other? I mean, without Green Day, Blink wouldn't be there so it would be dumb form Blink if they would hate Green Day.

I mean did something happen between them? Or do they just don't like each other.

[Guest]

I have no idea what this has to do with my post. Uno! went straight to number 2 here in america, a far more difficult feat considering the lack of interest in rock music on this side of the atlantic.

That's nice it's "heavier"....does that mean better? Biffy Clyro has nothing to do with what I'm talking about as they are not mainstream in America, which whether you like it or not does matter.

You have to be an over-the-top, auto-tuned, pop musician backed with recycled beats and crappy dance music in order to be on top 40 radio.

Peaked at No. 14 in the UK charts, the album went straight to No. 1.

Plus it's heavier than anything Green Day have ever recorded

Not sure if stupid, or just stupid

And the heavier thing was you referring to the whole manufactured pop beats or whatever. Starting to think you're intentionally misinterpreting my posts...

[Hermione]

Yeha I think it's about Tom DeLonge.

But I don't get why..

You know, they were together on a tour and it was awkward as fuck. Just take the scene where Billie and Mark have a "conversation" just fucking small talk for the camera.

Does somebody know why they don't like each other? I mean, without Green Day, Blink wouldn't be there so it would be dumb form Blink if they would hate Green Day.

I mean did something happen between them? Or do they just don't like each other.

I don't know if it actually is, I think that's just fan speculation. I suppose it's gotta either be about a fictional character or inspired by someone Billie knows or has met, so I guess there's a chance that it is but it could just as easily be about someone else or no one.

I've always got the impression that they don't hate each other or anything, but that Green Day know they're a better band than them and probably wanted to prove that when they toured with them and somewhat embarrassingly had to be the opening act even though they'd been around longer and were clearly better live (presumably because Blink was more popular at that time). Bit of an awkward situation really. At the time there was an article where Tre was talking crap about them, it seemed mostly like lighthearted ribbing/rivalry rather than anything serious but you do get the impression that they didn't get on with Tom DeLonge too well and probably didn't respect them as a band that much. And now you see cases where Blink is talking about their influences etc and you'd expect to hear them mention Green Day but they don't.... . It's hard to tell when obviously neither band has talked about it but that's how it seems, that they just have some small issues and rivalry with each other.

[SmoothedOut]

why would you compare anything on the trilogy to don't leave me? that was released over 20 years ago. nothing they come out with now is going to sound like anything on 39/smooth and i'd honestly be worried if it did.

I compare it because one of the 3 albums is an attempt to create a garage rock sound which, for me, doesn't reach the level of a song like "Don't Leave Me" (which is a great garage-like song on it's own) simply because "Don't Leave Me" is a lot more relatable (like most of the stuff on 39) and is, if you want, even 'dirtier' than anything on Dos with it's neat and polished and supposedly "down-and-dirty" garage songs. iHeart Radio summed that album up for me. Though I'm not disgusted by what happened on-stage, I feel that the confusion and pointlessness of the time and on that night and the events that followed is felt on most of that album. I don't see Billie as a sex pest. I don't relate to that or relate to the band for that reason. And that's why I'd prefer a lot of their older songs to the newer ones simply because they seem a little more true to what they really are. I don't see them as Queen or some huge hard rock band either. I couldn't make anything out of what happened that night aside from Billie having a rough time, just like how many people can't make anything out of the trilogy until now. But of course they're not going to sound like anything on 39/Smooth anymore.

I don't understand the hate on 39/Smooth.. Sure, the production sucked but the songs on that album (and the sound) in my opinion are the most unique of all Green Day songs.

[nothing_wrong_with_me]

I don't know if it actually is, I think that's just fan speculation. I suppose it's gotta either be about a fictional character or inspired by someone Billie knows or has met, so I guess there's a chance that it is but it could just as easily be about someone else or no one.

I've always got the impression that they don't hate each other or anything, but that Green Day know they're a better band than them and probably wanted to prove that when they toured with them and somewhat embarrassingly had to be the opening act even though they'd been around longer and were clearly better live (presumably because Blink was more popular at that time). Bit of an awkward situation really. At the time there was an article where Tre was talking crap about them, it seemed mostly like lighthearted ribbing/rivalry rather than anything serious but you do get the impression that they didn't get on with Tom DeLonge too well and probably didn't respect them as a band that much. And now you see cases where Blink is talking about their influences etc and you'd expect to hear them mention Green Day but they don't.... . It's hard to tell when obviously neither band has talked about it but that's how it seems, that they just have some small issues and rivalry with each other.

I agree with you. I think it's possible that it's really about Blink but as far as I know it was never confirmed so it's just a rumor and it could be also about someone else. And maybe they have some rivalry with Blink but I'm sure they don't hate each other. I often look at Tom Delonge's instagram and I see Mike's comments on almost every photo that Tom posts, so it seems they are good friends. Mike once wished him happy father's day in those comments or he often makes some funny comments under his photos. And Tom has his shoe company Macbeth footwear and if I remember correctly Mike collaborated with Tom on creating some shoes for his company.

[yuridookie]

Green Day are Emo?

[Guest]

Green Day are Emo?

No.

[SumDay]

I don't know if it actually is, I think that's just fan speculation. I suppose it's gotta either be about a fictional character or inspired by someone Billie knows or has met, so I guess there's a chance that it is but it could just as easily be about someone else or no one.

I've always got the impression that they don't hate each other or anything, but that Green Day know they're a better band than them and probably wanted to prove that when they toured with them and somewhat embarrassingly had to be the opening act even though they'd been around longer and were clearly better live (presumably because Blink was more popular at that time). Bit of an awkward situation really. At the time there was an article where Tre was talking crap about them, it seemed mostly like lighthearted ribbing/rivalry rather than anything serious but you do get the impression that they didn't get on with Tom DeLonge too well and probably didn't respect them as a band that much. And now you see cases where Blink is talking about their influences etc and you'd expect to hear them mention Green Day but they don't.... . It's hard to tell when obviously neither band has talked about it but that's how it seems, that they just have some small issues and rivalry with each other.

Oh well, that's a lot of informations I didn't knew..thanks for that

Anyway, yeha I guess the Pop Disaster Tour was at a bad time for Green Day, they were getting unimportant and Blink at the top of their career and just like you said, this competition wasn't good for their "relationship".

[DookieLukie]

Oh well, that's a lot of informations I didn't knew..thanks for that

Anyway, yeha I guess the Pop Disaster Tour was at a bad time for Green Day, they were getting unimportant and Blink at the top of their career and just like you said, this competition wasn't good for their "relationship".

How did Green Day influence Blink-182 when they both came out around the same time?

[jacknovella]

How did Green Day influence Blink-182 when they both came out around the same time?

Well Green Day were around a few years before Blink so they could quite easily have been an influence. Mark Hoppus said in an interview a couple of years ago that Green Day definitely came around before them, Blink just perfected what Green Day were doing...which I think is bullshit, but hey.

[DTH]

Blink just perfected what Green Day were doing.

sorry, i can't...

[SumDay]

How did Green Day influence Blink-182 when they both came out around the same time?

That's right, but Blink was with Enema of the State around 2000 at the top of their career, Green Day was around 1994 pretty famous.

With that fame, they made Punk-Rock famous. Because of that, Blink was able to get famous too.

You understand?

So that's at least my thoughts.

Green Day is infact the base for a lot of Punk-Rock bands which got famous around 2000 like Blink, Sum 41 and others.

[jacknovella]

sorry, i can't...

Haha I know, I think they're two different bands who make different kinds of music. That's what Mark said by the way, I was quoting! Not sure if you know that or not

[SmoothedOut]

Does somebody know why they don't like each other? I mean, without Green Day, Blink wouldn't be there so it would be dumb form Blink if they would hate Green Day.

I mean did something happen between them? Or do they just don't like each other.

I don't know if it actually is, I think that's just fan speculation. I suppose it's gotta either be about a fictional character or inspired by someone Billie knows or has met, so I guess there's a chance that it is but it could just as easily be about someone else or no one.

I've always got the impression that they don't hate each other or anything, but that Green Day know they're a better band than them and probably wanted to prove that when they toured with them

Based on personal experience, on the way I see them act toward each other in the Pop Disaster Tour videos/Riding in Vans with Boys, and their music - I'd say it's purely a difference in views and personalities. I'm not exactly a huge Blink-182 fan. I do see that their fans though are a lot more outgoing than I am.

As for the band members themselves. I see Green Day as rather reserved compared to Blink-182 though both groups burst with creativity each in their own ways. They're a bit more serious in their television appearances and in their work but they can still be funny as hell. I understand where the lyrics "Everybody loves a joke but no one loves a fool" comes from. Everyone has humor. Just different types. I can understand how one might be bitter towards someone else who gets more attention. Even the most humble people can get irritable. In this case, Blink was being labeled the better 'punk' band at the time (partly due to their more mainstream sound attracting a wider audience than Green Day's) and during the tour Green Day had to put up with a lot of people they didn't want to put up with like maybe the people around Blink. I might get a lot of hate for this but I think Blink's members are a little arrogant with Mark being the least arrogant. I don't know them personally and might only see them on TV and listen to their music but it is reflected on the fans (though I don't believe all their fans are arrogant). It's not surprising how they got more coverage on the tour documentaries whereas Green Day preferred to stay out of the spot-light. I'd have the same bitter feeling towards Blink-182 if I was in Green Day's shoes and react just the same.

Their music is also rather different. Blink-182's approach since their early days has been toward a more modern sound. The kind of 'punk' music you hear from New Found Glory or Fall Out Boy or All Time Low. I think this is the more preferred form of 'punk' music nowadays and you can see just about every type of person the classroom taking a liking to that sound. Jocks, posers, stupid fucks - you name it. Even if the punk culture came from the minority, Blink's 'punk' attracts even the majority. You get arrogant stupid heads wanting to form 'punk' bands thanks to them.

Green Day on the other hand has a very old-school sound and a rather old-fashioned take on everything. Taking influence from the Ramones, growing up in a real punk scene, being around bands like Rancid, the Queers, the Muffs, who all have a more classic sound and are into simple, sweet, melodic serenades in contrast to Blink's more direct "I love you", "I miss you don't go" rather corny way of approach. Kind of like how AC/DC sang "You shook me all night long" instead of "Though you swear that you are true I still pick my friends over you". Even during the 90s Green Day stuck to some rather classic chord progressions like you'd hear in "She". They sounded like the Beatles and the Stones sped up. That's the difference between Green Day and every other modern punk band. They're not all about tattoos and playing loud, distorted music, while singing about girls, and sounding like a cheesy pop band. They might as well belong with real classic bands like AC/DC and the Ramones whose fans also prefer the same types of music and have similar personalities with Green Day fans. The fact that the sound is exclusive to a particular group of people shows why it's a little harder for those who love it to identify with anyone else who isn't like them. That's why it's a little harder for jocks and mainstream-goers to relate with those type of people. And I think it's a little important to have some sort of identity. Only because I can't stand to be just like everyone else or just don't have the guts to be under the spotlight all the time.

I'd get a long with some Blink-182 fans in a classroom. But because Blink-182 would be popular with just about everyone in the class, I wouldn't get along with a lot of people either.

The modern 'punk' sound: (accepted by just about everyone; even the most unlikable people - which is unfortunate but might also be mirrored by the band members themselves..)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfcLcDBII78

The oldschool sound: (virtually unknown by the majority of people; rather just unappreciated instead of disliked due to the preference of the mainstream audience)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ba8eDAjlyQ

I think the type of audience tells a story. That's just based on my experience though..

[SumDay]

I might get a lot of hate for this but I think Blink's members are a little arrogant with Mark being the least arrogant.

Green Day on the other hand has a very old-school sound and a rather old-fashioned take on everything. Taking influence from the Ramones, growing up in a real punk scene, being around bands like Rancid, the Queers, the Muffs, who all have a more classic sound and are into simple, sweet, melodic serenades in contrast to Blink's more direct "I love you", "I miss you don't go" rather corny way of approach.

They sounded like the Beatles and the Stones sped up.

That's the difference between Green Day and every other modern punk band. They're not all about tattoos and playing loud, distorted music, while singing about girls, and sounding like a cheesy pop band.

The modern 'punk' sound: (accepted by just about everyone; even the most unlikable people - which is unfortunate but might also be mirrored by the band members themselves..)

The oldschool sound: (virtually unknown by the majority of people; rather just unappreciated instead of disliked due to the preference of the mainstream audience)

Although I read your whole text I kinda marked the (for me) more important stuff out.

Yes, they are/were pretty arrogant. But I guess they're over it. In my opinion that was the reason why they broke up.

They changed a lot I think they're very nice persons now.

Alright, thanks for the explanation and the little punk lesson

But altough this different punk-styles, Green Day made the succes of Blink possible right?

[SmoothedOut]

Yes, they are/were pretty arrogant. But I guess they're over it. In my opinion that was the reason why they broke up.

They changed a lot I think they're very nice persons now.

Yeah I think so too. And I don't get sad about a band quieting down like how Blink-182 is right now. It just means those who weren't really their fans have finally fucked off.

But altough this different punk-styles, Green Day made the succes of Blink possible right?

They probably did. Who knows?

[The Disappearing Boy]

GD vs. Blink? Really?!

Yeah I know. Blink's easily the winner.

[SumDay]

GD vs. Blink? Really?!

No no here's no discussion about that.

Just talking about "relationships" between the members you know.

[Clockwise]

I love both blink and GD, and I don't really think Jackass is about them. In Riding in Vans with Boys they did seem to have a decent relationship, I think the rivalry was mostly for show, haha.