Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Spike]

Peacemaker is absolute genius. It's a cross between The Offspring, Gogol Bordello, The Beatles and a James Bond theme tune, what's not to love? The way everything fits together is brilliant. The same goes for American Eulogy. Its production lets it down, it's a bit too Disney, but it's a very well written song. The way the two choruses overlap even though they're in different keys is very clever. Plus Mike's vocals, ooft.

[SmoothedOut]

I'm not too fond of Green Day's garage rock sound (ex. Fuck Time/Lady Cobra). I'd prefer it not released by Green Day. Compared to "Don't Leave Me" (which is amazing), the stuff on Dos (in terms of production and lyrics) is just way too polished and clean.

[The Grouch is Tracy]

I really like the garage rock sound, but I appreciate that they don't constantly release the same type of music over and over again. I did not really like 21st Century Breakdown when it first came out because it seemed to be more American Idiot all over again. After listening and paying attention, I grew to love it for its own sake. I am happy that the trilogy was not another rock opera, and love it or hate it, there are some awesome songs in there! I think we will look back on the trilogy in years to come, and appreciate it as another great example of how Green Day are not afraid to express themselves musically.

[munns6691]

This is the best thing imo

You like when they stop singing the words? ?

[Spike]

I for one can't stand their garage rock sound. I mean, obviously they're entitled to do whatever they want, be it pop punk, garage, rock n roll or fucking dubstep, I'm not going to say I buy a Green Day record expecting to hear anything specific. When they do garage rock it's just disappointing, to be honest. They're the best in the world at pop punk, and they've proved they can be extravagant, so personally I'd prefer if they carried on down the American Idiot/21st CB road. But they'll do what they want, obviously, and that's fine.

[olstjimmy]

I don't think it was silly! I love that album, lots of fun but there's some properly dark, interesting lyrics on there as well. I think the fact they put Fuck Time and a load of other Foxboro-like songs on Dos, the Trilogy as a whole has a retro sound, and they played a couple of Foxboro songs at a secret show in Italy a few months ago, shows that they haven't lost interest in it yet (or at least haven't lost interest in that sound).

Yeh no... I don't personally think it was silly, but when you hear them talk about it you know that FBHT was a bit of fun for them, which then influenced songs on the Trilogy.

I loved the lyrics... And I really love that sound

[Z J]

how the hell was american eulogy piano led?

I was talking about the style of the album as a whole, mentioning that those songs are not typical GD songs. GD never had songs like Last Night On Earth or Viva La Gloria. And Before the Lobotomy and 21cb aren't piano ballads either but they still are far from normal GD songs.

[munns6691]

The Foxboro Hot Tubs should stay the Hot Tubs and Green Day should stay Green Day

[Z J]

What part of not straying far from power chords, distortion, and 3 minute songs did you miss? blink 182's self titled was at least as adventurous as 21stCB,

And all those songs ARE typical of Green Day's style, just give or take a couple of acoustic guitars and a piano. Excluding American Eulogy, which is just their normal thing with a varied song structure.

There are some amazing rock bands out there, they're just not getting mainstream attention. Up and coming rock bands regularly top the charts in Europe, don't tar us with your awful music taste

Without looking I'm not sure if any 21cb songs clock in at 3 minutes. So that right there is different. Also, you are seriously over-simplifying their music if you think a piano ballad like Last Night on Earth is similar to their stuff on Insomniac. I consider varied song structures and use of different instruments to be a "different style" and I don't think I'm in the minority in believing that 21CB was nowhere close to their other stuff musically. Except AI in some respects for the concept.

As for the rock band thing, kind of hard for them to be "the biggest band in the world" if they aren't know anywhere.

[iScottie]

The Foxboro Hot Tubs should stay the Hot Tubs and Green Day should stay Green Day

Paradox shit right there.

[Guest]

Without looking I'm not sure if any 21cb songs clock in at 3 minutes. So that right there is different. Also, you are seriously over-simplifying their music if you think a piano ballad like Last Night on Earth is similar to their stuff on Insomniac. I consider varied song structures and use of different instruments to be a "different style" and I don't think I'm in the minority in believing that 21CB was nowhere close to their other stuff musically. Except AI in some respects for the concept.

As for the rock band thing, kind of hard for them to be "the biggest band in the world" if they aren't know anywhere.

Christian's Inferno, KYE, and Horseshoes & Handgrenades all spring immediately to mind. And LNOE is basically the same principle as Insomniac tracks, except that the chords are being played on a piano. Complex shit it ain't. Green Day used more instruments on Nimrod than they did on 21stCB, so that argument is pretty much crap. Musically, 21stCB is exactly the same as everything else they've ever done, just expanded on to a more grandiose level.

Biffy Clyro headlined every single major festival in Europe this summer, and headlined Download last year. They're still playing shows to 500 people in the US. So yeah, it's America's shitty taste in music that's the problem there

[Z J]

Christian's Inferno, KYE, and Horseshoes & Handgrenades all spring immediately to mind. And LNOE is basically the same principle as Insomniac tracks, except that the chords are being played on a piano. Complex shit it ain't. Green Day used more instruments on Nimrod than they did on 21stCB, so that argument is pretty much crap. Musically, 21stCB is exactly the same as everything else they've ever done, just expanded on to a more grandiose level.

Biffy Clyro headlined every single major festival in Europe this summer, and headlined Download last year. They're still playing shows to 500 people in the US. So yeah, it's America's shitty taste in music that's the problem there

Songs don't have to be complex to be different. "Basically the same principle" While how bout we compare the actual chords. Which song is Last Night On Earth like chord wise? Lay off over-generalizations and give me actual notes. Your Nimrod point makes absolutely no sense as Nimrod has no piano and Nimrod doesn't have any songs that sound similar to Viva La Gloria or American Eulogy or some of the other songs on 21cb. I don't think there is anyone in the world that would call 21CB a pop punk album.

Also don't call anyone else's musical tastes shitty if your name on here is Miley Cyrus. (Of course if it's a joke, the point is null) And I don't get the Biffy Clyro thing either, tough to be the biggest band in the world if you are only known in Europe.

[Guest]

Songs don't have to be complex to be different. "Basically the same principle" While how bout we compare the actual chords. Which song is Last Night On Earth like chord wise? Lay off over-generalizations and give me actual notes. Your Nimrod point makes absolutely no sense as Nimrod has no piano and Nimrod doesn't have any songs that sound similar to Viva La Gloria or American Eulogy or some of the other songs on 21cb. I don't think there is anyone in the world that would call 21CB a pop punk album.

Also don't call anyone else's musical tastes shitty if your name on here is Miley Cyrus. (Of course if it's a joke, the point is null) And I don't get the Biffy Clyro thing either, tough to be the biggest band in the world if you are only known in Europe.

Considering the LNOE is literally two chords with various minor alterations, it's actually simpler than pretty much any of their other songs. A and D, with an A7 and a D minor in there for variation. Not very complex, not very groundbreaking. Is that what you were going for? My point wasn't anything to do with piano, I was saying they used a greater variety of instruments, that's all. American Eulogy is just your standard Green Day fare with an odd structure. Don't even pretend it isn't. And I'm almost 100% positive BJ himself referred to 21stCB as a pop punk rock opera.

I thought the joke was obvious? And the point about Biffy was that people were saying that rock bands aren't big in the mainstream anymore. They clearly are, just not on that side of the Atlantic. That was my point.

[Guest Trotsky]

Two of us here, then. It was the one that first got into my ear upon listening to the album for the first time in 2009, then there was The Static Age and the title track, then the others.

I'm happy that I'm not the only one. The "Latin-flavored" guitar is just amazing and the lyrics are great.

[Z J]

Considering the LNOE is literally two chords with various minor alterations, it's actually simpler than pretty much any of their other songs. A and D, with an A7 and a D minor in there for variation. Not very complex, not very groundbreaking. Is that what you were going for? My point wasn't anything to do with piano, I was saying they used a greater variety of instruments, that's all. American Eulogy is just your standard Green Day fare with an odd structure. Don't even pretend it isn't. And I'm almost 100% positive BJ himself referred to 21stCB as a pop punk rock opera.

I thought the joke was obvious? And the point about Biffy was that people were saying that rock bands aren't big in the mainstream anymore. They clearly are, just not on that side of the Atlantic. That was my point.

If you look at the rest of the genre, 21CB is not really pop punk. Also BJA once said he thinks 99 Revolutions is one of the best songs he's ever written. Let's just say I disagree with him. I never said LNOE was groundbreaking or complex. I'm saying it's different than their other work. No song on Insomniac from what I can see comes close to using similar chords to LNOE. American Eulogy is not really standard if it has an odd structure. The mashed up choruses at the end, Mike's two verses. It is different. Compared to other genre's is GD's music ever going to be overly complex? No. But there are plenty of songs on 21cb that do not sound anything like their other stuff. Starting with the opener song of the century/21cb. What other GD song sounds like 21cb (the song not the album). Again: It does not have to be complex to be different. Calling LNOE simple is true, but just because Brain Stew is simple does that make them similar? No the songs aren't even in the same genre.

Also sorry I didn't get the "joke"....your condescension is quite annoying.

[munns6691]

Considering the LNOE is literally two chords with various minor alterations, it's actually simpler than pretty much any of their other songs. A and D, with an A7 and a D minor in there for variation. Not very complex, not very groundbreaking. Is that what you were going for? My point wasn't anything to do with piano, I was saying they used a greater variety of instruments, that's all. American Eulogy is just your standard Green Day fare with an odd structure. Don't even pretend it isn't. And I'm almost 100% positive BJ himself referred to 21stCB as a pop punk rock opera.

I thought the joke was obvious? And the point about Biffy was that people were saying that rock bands aren't big in the mainstream anymore. They clearly are, just not on that side of the Atlantic. That was my point.

You seem to be listening to the wrong band mate

Also, since it's been almost a full year since Uno came out where does everyone put Uno Dos or Tre in their rankings of Green Day albums?

[Spike]

You seem to be listening to the wrong band mateAlso, since it's been almost a full year since Uno came out where does everyone put Uno Dos or Tre in their rankings of Green Day albums?

Tre is their third best, in my opinion. Uno is 9th and Dos right at the bottom.

[Guest]

If you look at the rest of the genre, 21CB is not really pop punk. Also BJA once said he thinks 99 Revolutions is one of the best songs he's ever written. Let's just say I disagree with him. I never said LNOE was groundbreaking or complex. I'm saying it's different than their other work. No song on Insomniac from what I can see comes close to using similar chords to LNOE. American Eulogy is not really standard if it has an odd structure. The mashed up choruses at the end, Mike's two verses. It is different. Compared to other genre's is GD's music ever going to be overly complex? No. But there are plenty of songs on 21cb that do not sound anything like their other stuff. Starting with the opener song of the century/21cb. What other GD song sounds like 21cb (the song not the album). Again: It does not have to be complex to be different. Calling LNOE simple is true, but just because Brain Stew is simple does that make them similar? No the songs aren't even in the same genre.

Also sorry I didn't get the "joke"....your condescension is quite annoying.

Adding an A7 chord into the mix makes LNOE totally different from any of GD's previous work? They're the same songs they always wrote, just on different instruments. Pretty sure every song on Insomniac has an A or a D chord. Green Day threw in mashed up and layered stuff in AI, that wasn't new. The only thing different about it really on a significant level was Mike singing.

You ask what song sounds like 21stCB. Do you really want me to go back through GD's back catalogue to find every single song that has the D-A-G chord progression? I can guarantee you there would be double digits. The second half of that song is pretty much the most different thing they've ever done, actually writing a lead riff that wasn't power chords.

LNOE is no different from any sappy love song Billie wrote before that. He could have played 1000 Hours like LNOE if he had a piano. When It's Time is basically evidence of this. When he wrote it it was clearly a guitar song, but it works beautifully arranged for keys.

I don't see how stating that an obvious joke is obvious = condescension, but anyway.

You seem to be listening to the wrong band mate

With regards to Green Day or...?

[munns6691]

Adding an A7 chord into the mix makes LNOE totally different from any of GD's previous work? They're the same songs they always wrote, just on different instruments. Pretty sure every song on Insomniac has an A or a D chord. Green Day threw in mashed up and layered stuff in AI, that wasn't new. The only thing different about it really on a significant level was Mike singing.

You ask what song sounds like 21stCB. Do you really want me to go back through GD's back catalogue to find every single song that has the D-A-G chord progression? I can guarantee you there would be double digits. The second half of that song is pretty much the most different thing they've ever done, actually writing a lead riff that wasn't power chords.

LNOE is no different from any sappy love song Billie wrote before that. He could have played 1000 Hours like LNOE if he had a piano. When It's Time is basically evidence of this. When he wrote it it was clearly a guitar song, but it works beautifully arranged for keys.

I don't see how stating that an obvious joke is obvious = condescension, but anyway.

With regards to Green Day or...?

Most bands have a distinct sound and dont stray too far from it. Green Day has a specific sound but also has a good amount of songs with different qualities, no matter if they are small.

Go listen to mumford and sons, they are a band where all songs sound the same, not Green Day

[Z J]

Adding an A7 chord into the mix makes LNOE totally different from any of GD's previous work? They're the same songs they always wrote, just on different instruments. Pretty sure every song on Insomniac has an A or a D chord. Green Day threw in mashed up and layered stuff in AI, that wasn't new. The only thing different about it really on a significant level was Mike singing.

You ask what song sounds like 21stCB. Do you really want me to go back through GD's back catalogue to find every single song that has the D-A-G chord progression? I can guarantee you there would be double digits. The second half of that song is pretty much the most different thing they've ever done, actually writing a lead riff that wasn't power chords.

LNOE is no different from any sappy love song Billie wrote before that. He could have played 1000 Hours like LNOE if he had a piano. When It's Time is basically evidence of this. When he wrote it it was clearly a guitar song, but it works beautifully arranged for keys.

I don't see how stating that an obvious joke is obvious = condescension, but anyway.

With regards to Green Day or...?

By your logic every single song that uses the same chords is the same song. LNOE is different from Insomniac because one is a freaking piano ballad about love and Insomniac is a raging-3 minute drum and guitar assault with angry lyrics. Just because an insomniac song has a freakin A chord in it doesn't make it the same song that doesn't even make sense. Just tell me, by ear, if any song sounds like 21CB....because I'll tell you right now I don't hear any that sound the same. A similar chord progression doesn't mean anything. There are a million other ways songs can be different. When it's time is a completely different melody and Billie sings in a lower key for most of it.

[Spoopy Doo]

Ok, I understand that 'Foxboro..' was a silly side project they will never work on again... BUT I really enjoy that sound, the lo-fi almost indie-rockabilly punk. I think it would be really fun if they went for at least a few songs in a new album.

I wish ¡Dos!'s sound was more like Stop Drop and Roll.

[DookieLukie]

I will once again state that Stop Drop and Roll is the best thing "Green Day" has done since American Idiot. Really an amazing album.

[Z J]

You seem to be listening to the wrong band mate

Also, since it's been almost a full year since Uno came out where does everyone put Uno Dos or Tre in their rankings of Green Day albums?

Probably the bottom, ahead of only 39/Smooth and Kerplunk (maybe). I enjoy them but they aren't at the same level as their Dookie-21CB stuff

[munns6691]

I will once again state that Stop Drop and Roll is the best thing "Green Day" has done since American Idiot. Really an amazing album.

I have to say I disagree completely. I like Mother Mary, Pedestrian, Broadway and 27th Ave. Shuffle but those wouldn't crack my Green Day top 40 songs

[Eva]

I have to say I disagree completely. I like Mother Mary, Pedestrian, Broadway and 27th Ave. Shuffle but those wouldn't crack my Green Day top 40 songs

I agree with you. A few of the songs I find extremely catchy and fun to listen to. The others are just bland and sound pretty similar, if you listen to them a certain way. It's a good album, but nothing amazing. Easily digestible with a few great, distinctive tracks.

I for one can't stand their garage rock sound. I mean, obviously they're entitled to do whatever they want, be it pop punk, garage, rock n roll or fucking dubstep, I'm not going to say I buy a Green Day record expecting to hear anything specific. When they do garage rock it's just disappointing, to be honest. They're the best in the world at pop punk, and they've proved they can be extravagant, so personally I'd prefer if they carried on down the American Idiot/21st CB road. But they'll do what they want, obviously, and that's fine.

I get disappointed because there "garage rock" doesn't really sound like garage rock to me. Neither does the songs they deem as "punk."

I feel like Billie Joe has a completely different view on the mess that is musical genres and classification than the rest of the world.