Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[WhiteTim]

I don't understand why they didn't do the trilogy in a live format like Billie been saying he wants to do he's been saying since AI he wants to do a GD record live like Exile On Mainstreet but seems to back out instead they have the album production set up to sound like it was done live but ultimately didn't exactly pay off while some songs sound good some songs could've benefitted from more production being applied maybe Billie is afraid to actually do a real live sounding album cause he's been talking wanting it for years but seems to always not follow thru while it wouldnt work for 21st but it'd been great for the trilogy

(For the record i love the trilogy and even the sound of the trilogy but will admit the lack of production did hurt a few of the songs)

[HolyHandGrenade]

I too like Peacemaker, but not the others I listed. The reason I like peacemaker is cause it is unique. If the band decided to do a whole album with songs that sound nothing like their core songs all the new "unique" songs would get meshed together and not be as interesting.

I think the next album should have 2-3 unique songs that suprise us but in a better way than Kill the DJ and Nightlife

By the way I think the next album they make rivals their 2nd best album and brings them back in a huge way.

Nimrod accomplished that perfectly with the experimentation in moderation that gave us King for a Day, Good Riddance, Take Back, and Last Ride In - all forays into new genres.

Unpopular opinion: I love Last Ride In and Espionage

[Flyingdonutz]

what part of 21CB did you miss? That was about as adventurous as a pop punk band can ever get. American Eulogy, 21CB, Viva La Gloria, Before the Lobotomy. I mean these songs were not your stereo-typical GD songs. They are Piano-led and multi-layered and plenty "adventurous" I'd say.

how the hell was american eulogy piano led?

[HolyHandGrenade]

what part of 21CB did you miss? That was about as adventurous as a pop punk band can ever get. American Eulogy, 21CB, Viva La Gloria, Before the Lobotomy. I mean these songs were not your stereo-typical GD songs. They are Piano-led and multi-layered and plenty "adventurous" I'd say.

Add Last Night on Earth and Song of the Century to that

[munns6691]

Nimrod accomplished that perfectly with the experimentation in moderation that gave us King for a Day, Good Riddance, Take Back, and Last Ride In - all forays into new genres.

Unpopular opinion: I love Last Ride In and Espionage

Take Back and Last Ride In weren't my favorites. However I love Nimrod as an album.

I don't want a new live album. Don't really get the appeal.

[HolyHandGrenade]

Take Back and Last Ride In weren't my favorites. However I love Nimrod as an album.

I don't want a new live album. Don't really get the appeal.

I enjoy live albums because they provide new a new medium to interpret their content, and present the opportunity to hear songs in a new light. It was a wonderful discovery for me to hear Who Wrote Holden Caulfield with the sharp guitars and fine-tuned vocals of the previous decade's Green Day, versus Kerplunk's. I feel like certain songs (Carpe Diem) are just begging for the live treatment

[Spike]

I enjoy live albums because they provide new a new medium to interpret their content, and present the opportunity to hear songs in a new light. It was a wonderful discovery for me to hear Who Wrote Holden Caulfield with the sharp guitars and fine-tuned vocals of the previous decade's Green Day, versus Kerplunk's. I feel like certain songs (Carpe Diem) are just begging for the live treatment

Carpe Diem would definitely benefit from an official live version. The one on the album just isn't fast, heavy or raw enough to be as effective as it should be.

[UnoDosTreCuatro]

I am not able to say "oh yeah AI is the best album" or something along those lines. I am not able to choose a favorite green day album. I REALLY LOVE the trilogy. Like seriously I listen to that about as much as everything else.

[munns6691]

I enjoy live albums because they provide new a new medium to interpret their content, and present the opportunity to hear songs in a new light. It was a wonderful discovery for me to hear Who Wrote Holden Caulfield with the sharp guitars and fine-tuned vocals of the previous decade's Green Day, versus Kerplunk's. I feel like certain songs (Carpe Diem) are just begging for the live treatment

I like live albums as in Bullet in a Bible and Awesome AF but not an album of brand new songs recorded live.

1. The crowd won't know the songs and that's a big factor in making a good live song.

2.Billie's studio vocals are much more sharp.

3. Live has weird pauses in songs and lines replaced with "RIGHT HERE IN TOYKO" and with new songs we don't know what lyric should be there.

[✘StayRock✘]

3. Live has weird pauses in songs and lines replaced with "RIGHT HERE IN TOYKO" and with new songs we don't know what lyric should be there.

This is the best thing imo

[olstjimmy]

Ok, I understand that 'Foxboro..' was a silly side project they will never work on again... BUT I really enjoy that sound, the lo-fi almost indie-rockabilly punk. I think it would be really fun if they went for at least a few songs in a new album.

[Guest]

what part of 21CB did you miss? That was about as adventurous as a pop punk band can ever get. American Eulogy, 21CB, Viva La Gloria, Before the Lobotomy. I mean these songs were not your stereo-typical GD songs. They are Piano-led and multi-layered and plenty "adventurous" I'd say.

What part of not straying far from power chords, distortion, and 3 minute songs did you miss? blink 182's self titled was at least as adventurous as 21stCB,

And all those songs ARE typical of Green Day's style, just give or take a couple of acoustic guitars and a piano. Excluding American Eulogy, which is just their normal thing with a varied song structure.

This conversation about "biggest band in the world" makes one realize how shitty rock is right now. It also means that there is a void to fill and GD should be doing something over the next year or so to get them back in the mainstream's eye. Whether that be a re-release of Dookie, a new album, or some other crazy thing. Since they missed a good portion of their publicity shows last year b/c of rehab, I'd expect they intend to do something to redeem themselves. I think they are fully capable of becoming the biggest band in the world again and I think there is an open-market for them to grab hold of

There are some amazing rock bands out there, they're just not getting mainstream attention. Up and coming rock bands regularly top the charts in Europe, don't tar us with your awful music taste

Carpe Diem would definitely benefit from an official live version. The one on the album just isn't fast, heavy or raw enough to be as effective as it should be.

This exactly. The live bootlegs of this pre-Trilogy were amazing, and the album version was just a disappointment.

[Comrade]

American Eulogy is one of the worst songs ever recorded. I mean what absolute shit.

[SmoothedOut]

I rate Green Day's sound rather highly. At times, the sound beats the lyrics.

As for rock going the wrong way - whatever it is, be it rock, pop, or whatever, anything mainstream and anything that doesn't sound good is not on my playlist. Good music is good music and you can find a lot of it underground. There are times you have to look up due to the sheer horridness of the most popular bands at that moment. I fucking hate Attack Attack, Slipknot, and Asking Alexandria.

"You play music because there’s something inside of you that says you have to play music. Now you get bands like Fall Out Boythat are basically created in the studio. The Warped Tour changed it. Fuck it. I just don’t like that shit. All the guys in the bands remind me of the jocks I hated in high school. To me a punk gig is a small sweaty club with the audience right in your face knocking over the mic stand and boogying off the energy." - Joe Queer of the Queers

I've nothing against Fall Out Boy. I just don't listen to them. The title of their latest album is rather misleading though.

[Guest Trotsky]

Is it unpopular opinion if I say that Peacemaker is the best song of 21st CB? It's a shame that they didn't play this song live... Actually, they didn't play 21st CB songs anymore (besides Know Your Enemy of course).

[✘StayRock✘]

American Eulogy is one of the worst songs ever recorded. I mean what absolute shit.

[Guest Trotsky]

American Eulogy is one of the worst songs ever recorded. I mean what absolute shit.

[Comrade]

No seriously as soon as people realise that the way its two god awful, slapped together, proclaiming-a-message-for-the-sake-of-it parts come together into that wall of music and noise at the end isn't a smart commentary on modern media but a melodramatic, poorly-executed, overly-cheesy and just musically shite piece of contrived sub b-side rubbish, the better.

I'm sorry but the first time I heard it, I hated it. I've tried to appreciate it, but it's just a trite 4 minutes of arse.

[✘StayRock✘]

No seriously as soon as people realise that the way its two god awful, slapped together, proclaiming-a-message-for-the-sake-of-it parts come together into that wall of music and noise at the end isn't a smart commentary on modern media but a melodramatic, poorly-executed, overly-cheesy and just musically shite piece of contrived sub b-side rubbish, the better.

I'm sorry but the first time I heard it, I hated it. I've tried to appreciate it, but it's just a trite 4 minutes of arse.

THIS is an unpopular opinion

[Guest Trotsky]

No seriously as soon as people realise that the way its two god awful, slapped together, proclaiming-a-message-for-the-sake-of-it parts come together into that wall of music and noise at the end isn't a smart commentary on modern media but a melodramatic, poorly-executed, overly-cheesy and just musically shite piece of contrived sub b-side rubbish, the better.

I'm sorry but the first time I heard it, I hated it. I've tried to appreciate it, but it's just a trite 4 minutes of arse.

The summary of this song according to Billie is "The best way I can describe it right now is that it's like an apocalyptic angry mob with a city on fire and flashing lights while making out with your girlfriend." <- Actually, this would be a pefect video idea.

[Hermione]

maybe i'm in the minority on this, but i hope they don't do another rock opera. i wouldn't mind something that's musically similar to ai and 21cb, but i don't really want another album with a storyline. two was enough.

really i'm hoping they go in a totally new direction and surprise us all.

21st Century Breakdown doesn't have a storyline. It's got characters and epic sounding songs but there's no story to follow, it isn't a rock opera. I know what you mean though and I agree haha. It's really exciting to think they could go in pretty much any direction next.

Ok, I understand that 'Foxboro..' was a silly side project they will never work on again... BUT I really enjoy that sound, the lo-fi almost indie-rockabilly punk. I think it would be really fun if they went for at least a few songs in a new album.

I don't think it was silly! I love that album, lots of fun but there's some properly dark, interesting lyrics on there as well. I think the fact they put Fuck Time and a load of other Foxboro-like songs on Dos, the Trilogy as a whole has a retro sound, and they played a couple of Foxboro songs at a secret show in Italy a few months ago, shows that they haven't lost interest in it yet (or at least haven't lost interest in that sound).

[Comrade]

THIS is an unpopular opinion

S'what the thread is for.

I genuinely like 21CB, I think it's a great album. But it's 5 songs too long. If they had left out Christian's Inferno, Last Night On Earth, Viva La Gloria?, Restless Heart Syndrome, and American Eulogy that album would have been an absolute smash. Nothing weighing it down. I also think the whole Christian and Gloria thing is half-arsed and a bit loose, it has no place. Billie was just trying to follow expectations from AI, and it fell on it's arse.

[JOE THE X-KID]

i wish they would do something that combines the rock and roll vibe they went for with the trilogy with the lyricism of ai and 21cb or even their older albums.

This. Old school rock and roll, surf vibes with clever intelligent lyrics. I hope They go all out on the next album musically, they have a lot of unused potential I think.

It'd be interesting to see if they did a Springsteen and just do a couple of acoustic albums of pseudo folk rebel songs out of nowhere, just to fuck with all the fans you got through your massive breakthrough albums

Not sure if they could pull it off though, unfortunately.

That would be fucking sick!

[Iva]

Is it unpopular opinion if I say that Peacemaker is the best song of 21st CB? It's a shame that they didn't play this song live... Actually, they didn't play 21st CB songs anymore (besides Know Your Enemy of course).

Two of us here, then. It was the one that first got into my ear upon listening to the album for the first time in 2009, then there was The Static Age and the title track, then the others.

[Cob]

Ok, I understand that 'Foxboro..' was a silly side project they will never work on again... BUT I really enjoy that sound, the lo-fi almost indie-rockabilly punk. I think it would be really fun if they went for at least a few songs in a new album.

Definitely this. I feel like this is the direction the boys have been leaning towards for sometime. The thing I like about the Trilogy was it gave us everything; dirty rock n roll, punk pop, more aggressive rock, and big ballads. Had they spent more time centering the sound of each song, I think the Trilogy would have really hit home the way it should have sound wise. But if they do go in a single direction, I would not mind more of that rockabilly type sound. Just throw some filth on it.

I'd be REALLY happy if every album to come was in the same style as the trilogy. Discuss.

Nope. Could it work with specific songs? Yes. But the sound of each song and album affects its impact in a really unspeakable way. Nimrod is the best example of this; heavy as balls guitar on Reject with a much lighter touch on Nice Guys Finish Last. The reverse wouldn't work. Part of Brain Stew's theme is that sludgy, thick, dragging guitar sound. Again, had they really strived for this on the Trilogy, I think the songs would have had a wider impact aside from the fans' seemingly 50/50 split on it.