Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[Guest]

I thought it was Em-enius (LIKE HOW IT'S ACTUALLY SPELLED!)

I never thought about it much, I just decided that it was said like that and went with it

[Drinkin' The Kool Aid]

I like the start of Extraordinary Girl

Me too !!!!!!!!

[tdlyon]

Here's an unpopular thing: I've always pronounced Enemius Sleepus right.

[The Grouch is Tracy]

The person I responded to said it wasn't that bad, lyrically.

Yes, yes it is. It's utter shit. Billie is capable of better. Hell, my 12 year old brother is capable of better.

It's actually growing on me...the song....not shit.....

[munns6691]

Why should everyone there know 98% of the songs?

People going to their concerts should know basically all of the songs because if I am gonna pay the money sometimes upwards of 100 dollars i'd want to know all the songs that could be played. Also I didnt think it was hard to know all of the words to all of the songs, is that not the norm?

Also how do you pronounce Ireland???

[Clockwise]

I love Troublemaker!

I'd be happy with a Dookie tour, but hopefully it's an AI/Dookie tour...

[Cath]

thinking about it an AI/Dookie tour could be great next year. with whatsername, homecoming. though the trilogy songs need to stay

[munns6691]

Maybe they'll sprinkle in more older rare songs too!

[Eva]

The only way the trilogy was an experiment for GD was the fact that they released 3 albums in a short period of time. Nothing on these albums really strays too far from what they normally do. It just isn't similar to AI or 21 CB but it has all kinds of similarities to their other stuff.

And you better get used to Dookie. B/C if you are some how tired of it (dumb) then you will probably be pretty upset for the next year or so.

Other than the fact the songs are poking fun at a variety of different subjects, the songs bear almost no resemblance to any of their previous work. Musically, they're too poppy. Lyrically, they're too weak and bland (with the exception of a few songs). The trilogy doesn't sound like any of their prior work. It's completely different, like most of Green Day's material is. 21st Century Breakdown and American Idiot are pretty close, conceptually, and Dookie and Insomniac can be considered close because of their musicality, but those albums are still very different from each other.

Even if Green Day rehashes an idea, it's going to sound completely different. The trilogy sounds a hell of a lot different than any of the other music, because none of the music ever sounds the same.

[The Grouch is Tracy]

thinking about it an AI/Dookie tour could be great next year. with whatsername, homecoming. though the trilogy songs need to stay

Maybe they'll sprinkle in more older rare songs too!

...in other words, a Green Day tour ....

[Asa.]

I love Troublemaker!

Troublemaker is musical sex.

[Z J]

Other than the fact the songs are poking fun at a variety of different subjects, the songs bear almost no resemblance to any of their previous work. Musically, they're too poppy. Lyrically, they're too weak and bland (with the exception of a few songs). The trilogy doesn't sound like any of their prior work. It's completely different, like most of Green Day's material is. 21st Century Breakdown and American Idiot are pretty close, conceptually, and Dookie and Insomniac can be considered close because of their musicality, but those albums are still very different from each other.

Even if Green Day rehashes an idea, it's going to sound completely different. The trilogy sounds a hell of a lot different than any of the other music, because none of the music ever sounds the same.

yes I suppose in the literal sense it is different. They are 20 years older. And when I say they are similar I do NOT mean in quality because the trilogy just doesn't compare. For me they're similar because of a few things: Uno and Dookie have a lot of songs with the pop punk 3 minute, wall-to-wall fast style. (Let Yourself Go, Stay the Night, Carpe Diem, Nuclear Family, Fell For You) The subjects have changed slightly but they both aren't terribly serious albums. Dos is just FBHT, which was intentional obviously but it doesn't change the fact that they didn't change much. Tre doesn't really have an over-arching theme. But 99 Revolutions is a slightly underwhelming attempt at songs like Minority or AI. It could've worked but was just a tad to late in timing and the chorus falls short. DRB felt like an attempt to recreate Homecoming with the way they mashed up smaller songs. And so on. I agree that no music is ever really the same but they didn't do much to advance themselves I felt. I liked the direction that Oh Love went in (classic rock) Brutal Love mixed it up (Bluesy ballad) and Amy (Stripped down, also felt a little classic rock-ish).

[Mar]

Re: Dookie

1. How can something they had done a grand total 4 or 5 times be considered predictable? Just because everyone knew it would happen at Reading doesn't mean the whole thing is played out.

2. It seems as if they are playing it in full to re-introduce fans to these now 20 year old songs. If they plan to re-master and re-release the album next year, then it makes sense to drum up excitement. It's almost as if they're releasing it like it was a brand new album. Idk how much mileage they are going to try and get out of Dookie next year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they do a somewhat extensive ad campaign. They may try to get some of the singles on to Top 40 radio (that would be a monumental feat, considering they haven't been on top 40 since 21 guns). Perhaps they do the late night TV tour. Basically, they may try to do everything with re-mastered dookie that they wanted to do with the trilogy but couldn't b/c of rehab.

3. With the relatively new 37 songs they just released you would think it would be too soon to move on to Dookie, but this summer was really their last chance to really get the trilogy on the map and they chose not to. They took their time off leaking dookie recordings and then used the Reading festival to showcase dookie in full. So I think they have moved on from the trilogy. This applies to the live shows too. Some speculation of a second US tour is pretty much been squashed now. Australia in February is their next scheduled performance I believe. So we probably won't see them on the road again until next year and it will likely be the re-mastered Dookie tour

4. I know people don't like the idea of a dookie tour but it makes sense to me for a few reasons. First being that there are SO many people who have never gotten a chance to hear Dookie and it's 20 years old. So there is a market for it. You can say they're living in the past but this move could be best for their future. A new Dookie gives them a legit shot at breaking in to the mainstream again. They want to introduce the songs to a new generation of people.

In summary, I don't think this Dookie thing is for people who already like GD, I think it's a move to gain a new generation of fans and I think it could be a damn smart one of they execute it right. Would I like new material instead? Sure I would. But I get it. This makes sense for the long term popularity of the band. Can you imagine When I Come Around and Basket Case topping the iTunes charts next summer? There hasn't been a really commercially successful rock movement on the music charts in a while. Would be awesome if Green Day could lead the charge like they did in 94 and 2004

I think you're right, which is why I'm not necessarily freaking out about it. So many people love Dookie, but not necessarily the band as a whole/all their discography, and hyping the album again will bring people back into that fold. Since Dookie is only a piece of the puzzle that is Green Day for us obsessives, it can seem like overkill.

Not an unpopular opinion but it doesn't seem to be a common one. Panic Song is very high on the list of my fav GD songs. Also the most played song on my iTunes!

It's fantastic and horrifying for how accurately it feels like a panic attack happening in my brain.

[DookieLukie]

How can people who haven't even seen Green Day play Dookie live once, let alone more than once, complain that it's boring/they're tired of it? How can you possibly be tired of something you haven't even seen that's only happened 5 times in the history of the world?!

Green Day fans are some of the biggest complainers on the internet. Rarely do you see fans so disappointed in everything their band does. I'm really starting to question what Green Day could possibly do that wouldn't get insulted by the whole community. Fans hating on Dookie being played live is ridiculous. This is a treat. A once in a lifetime opportunity. But that's how we are.

Dookie came out. "Green Day isn't Punk!"

Insomniac came out. "Wow, Green Day lost their catchyness."

Nimrod came out. "Doesn't sound as much like Green Day. They suck now."

Warning came out. "Wow Green Day are has beens. Stop playing the same music! Evolve!"

American Idiot came out. "Woah...Green Day sold out and changed their music."

21 Century Breakdown came out. "Another rock opera? Beating a dead horse. Go back to your roots!"

Uno Dos Tre came out. "This is just like Green Day's old stuff. Too simple. Lets have more mature music! Another rock opera!"

[Fuzz]

I think fans like to bitch about Green Day because they feel defensive about liking them. Green Day has been shit on by someone during the whole career. So fans get into the band knowing that history, and feel like "well, see, i like the band, but that doesn't mean I have to like everything they do." Which is totally fair. But that also doesn't mean you have to bitch about all the stuff you don't like as if you're making a declaration to show your independence.

[Z J]

I'd like to think everyone here would approve of an acoustic album.

[DookieLukie]

I think fans like to bitch about Green Day because they feel defensive about liking them. Green Day has been shit on by someone during the whole career. So fans get into the band knowing that history, and feel like "well, see, i like the band, but that doesn't mean I have to like everything they do." Which is totally fair. But that also doesn't mean you have to bitch about all the stuff you don't like as if you're making a declaration to show your independence.

Good point. Whenever Green Day releases music, I sort of look at it in a two faced way. I always think what other people will think of it, which I hate. But underneath I want GD to make something that stops the haters. I'm totally cool with not liking everything they do. I have favorites, too. My point was that Green Day is doing something special with Dookie and people are already calling it "played out" and "boring". Just appreciate it.

[Isabel]

People going to their concerts should know basically all of the songs because if I am gonna pay the money sometimes upwards of 100 dollars i'd want to know all the songs that could be played. Also I didnt think it was hard to know all of the words to all of the songs, is that not the norm?

Also how do you pronounce Ireland???

Yeah but just because you might be that way inclined doesn't mean that everyone else has to be too. I don't think there should be an expectation for people to know particular songs at all, having fun and enjoying the show is more important.

It was like the other day, I think I saw it on twitter or somewhere like that... people were giving out about fans wearing Dookie shirts and not knowing the words to the songs. Who fucking cares? If you spent less time worrying about what other people are doing and more time watching the band, I'm sure you would have an even better time. There's no rules, no one has to know all of the songs, or even just some of the songs.

....Ireland? It's pronounced like, Are-land I guess?

[JOE THE X-KID]

I think you're right, which is why I'm not necessarily freaking out about it. So many people love Dookie, but not necessarily the band as a whole/all their discography, and hyping the album again will bring people back into that fold. Since Dookie is only a piece of the puzzle that is Green Day for us obsessives, it can seem like overkill.

It's fantastic and horrifying for how accurately it feels like a panic attack happening in my brain.

Panic song is my favourite Green Day song. The lyrics are just incredible

[Asa.]

I'd like to think everyone here would approve of an acoustic album.

I feel like it'd be too limited. Honestly I don't even like Pulling Teeth acoustic.

[Hermione]

Hearing Billie Joe say Emenius Sleepus was mind blowing, I've been saying it wrong for almost 12 years

Haha me too! I said EmENius not EmEENius. It was a revelation.

[munns6691]

Green Day fans are some of the biggest complainers on the internet. Rarely do you see fans so disappointed in everything their band does. I'm really starting to question what Green Day could possibly do that wouldn't get insulted by the whole community. Fans hating on Dookie being played live is ridiculous. This is a treat. A once in a lifetime opportunity. But that's how we are.

Dookie came out. "Green Day isn't Punk!"

Insomniac came out. "Wow, Green Day lost their catchyness."

Nimrod came out. "Doesn't sound as much like Green Day. They suck now."

Warning came out. "Wow Green Day are has beens. Stop playing the same music! Evolve!"

American Idiot came out. "Woah...Green Day sold out and changed their music."

21 Century Breakdown came out. "Another rock opera? Beating a dead horse. Go back to your roots!"

Uno Dos Tre came out. "This is just like Green Day's old stuff. Too simple. Lets have more mature music! Another rock opera!"

While this is true about the mass fans most actual green day fans arent like this

Yeah but just because you might be that way inclined doesn't mean that everyone else has to be too. I don't think there should be an expectation for people to know particular songs at all, having fun and enjoying the show is more important.

It was like the other day, I think I saw it on twitter or somewhere like that... people were giving out about fans wearing Dookie shirts and not knowing the words to the songs. Who fucking cares? If you spent less time worrying about what other people are doing and more time watching the band, I'm sure you would have an even better time. There's no rules, no one has to know all of the songs, or even just some of the songs.

....Ireland? It's pronounced like, Are-land I guess?

I actually thought most people knew almost all the songs so this is actual news to me haha. They most certainly don't have to know them all, as long as they don't complain if they attend a concert and the bands plays songs they don't know, if they still have fun its all good.

... It's not eye-er-land though...? Really?

[Z J]

I feel like it'd be too limited. Honestly I don't even like Pulling Teeth acoustic.

what do you mean by limited? I was thinking some original acoustic songs or some covers. Maybe 2 or 3 of their old songs stripped down. (Give Me Novocaine, please) And maybe an acoustic album would force Billie to hit some notes again. (as it seems only the slow songs get any effort from him as far as hitting notes goes)

Panic song is my favourite Green Day song. The lyrics are just incredible

Agreed 100% and they aren't typical GD lyrics either. Billie is usually straight to the point, he isn't usually this poetic.

[WhiteTim]

Agreed 100% and they aren't typical GD lyrics either. Billie is usually straight to the point, he isn't usually this poetic.

Mike wrote the lyrics maybe that's why

[munns6691]

Mike wrote the lyrics maybe that's why

Co-wrote*