Unpopular Green Day Opinions

[HolyHandGrenade]

I was watching an AC/DC live with my dad and he said to me "So, you went to see Green Day, uh?"

(He was talking about the crowd)

My mum said "But Green Day are a great band!" and he replied, laughing "Wait, wait, wait"

I don't understand this

Has he seen BIAB?

[IlariaIDIOT]

Has he seen BIAB?

Yes, he has.

But it's just a stupid conversation. Like AC/DC, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin (he listen them) are 'cool'.

Green Day no. I will never understand this but okay, no prob

[WhiteTim]

Yes, he has.

But it's just a stupid conversation. Like AC/DC, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin (he listen them) are 'cool'.

Green Day no. I will never understand this but okay, no prob

I can see AC/DC and Zeppelin but Deep Purple?

[Hermione]

Wait, a GDC member came up with the title?

Now that is awesome as fuck.

Yep! And other GDC members plus some friends organized, made, and held up the signs. Couldn't be more awesome as fuck really

[Z J]

I love J.A.R. so much, but I think I like the live version better. Idk if it's the speed or the emotion of it live, but fuck I love it.

[Eva]

This reply just killed the one you made a couple of pages back and chased all the maturity out. But don't mind me, I'm just recognising the time I deleted all my non-punk songs from cassettes because they were, well, not punk. Variety is cool.

Variety is cool. It's a shame Green Day doesn't have it.

Also, the only thing I was going to say was that I prefer a simple, more intimate show like most punk bands put on instead of a big theatrical production from an arena rock band, which is what Green Day has become. The only reason I said it would be called punk elitism is because I've been called a punk elitist for saying that on here before. It's not actual elitism.

*Side note* I don't understand what the part about deleting songs off of your cassettes has to do with anything I said.

[HolyHandGrenade]

I love J.A.R. so much, but I think I like the live version better. Idk if it's the speed or the emotion of it live, but fuck I love it.

Holden Caulfield was MUCH better and sharper on AAF, in my opinion. (in addition to JAR)

[Z J]

Holden Caulfield was MUCH better and sharper on AAF, in my opinion. (in addition to JAR)

yes, that tour had BJA's best vocals and because of the production quality of their pre-Dookie releases, the live versions are bound to be better. Christie Road is pretty spectacular too

Variety is cool. It's a shame Green Day doesn't have it.

Also, the only thing I was going to say was that I prefer a simple, more intimate show like most punk bands put on instead of a big theatrical production from an arena rock band, which is what Green Day has become. The only reason I said it would be called punk elitism is because I've been called a punk elitist for saying that on here before. It's not actual elitism.

*Side note* I don't understand what the part about deleting songs off of your cassettes has to do with anything I said.

big arena rock is what Green Day has been over the past decade, and that isn't going to change. They still have a number of smaller venue shows which is not common for a band with this much popularity. Also, there is an obvious lack of fireworks and large backdrops on this tour, the 99 Revolutions tour is as intimate as you will likely see.

I never really considered Green Day a "punk" band any way. Perhaps in message, but not musical styling. Pop punk/Arena Rock music with a punk message/attitude is more how I would describe them. A matter of interpretation over what "punk" is.

[deletethisaccount]

Yeah J.A.R. is a rad song. The outro is specifically why I even listen to it though.
I especially love (and prefer) the dookie demo's version where they laugh at the end. So charming.

[SmoothedOut]

Variety is cool. It's a shame Green Day doesn't have it.

Also, the only thing I was going to say was that I prefer a simple, more intimate show like most punk bands put on instead of a big theatrical production from an arena rock band, which is what Green Day has become. The only reason I said it would be called punk elitism is because I've been called a punk elitist for saying that on here before. It's not actual elitism.

*Side note* I don't understand what the part about deleting songs off of your cassettes has to do with anything I said.

I agree that I would prefer Green Day to go back to basics and be simple again. Intimacy. It wouldn't mean just seeing Green Day up close but it would also mean being able to relate with them from how they look, sing, and interact with the crowd. Don't get me wrong. Certain aspects of Green Day shows nowadays are a big step up such as the improved sound systems, lightings, and maybe even setlists (with the way they're organized at least though I would also love it if they just went crazy with their catalog). The way Billie holds the crowd with the palm of his hand is almost insane. The way they sound as a band just makes their shows even more unmatchable. However, I would be happy even if they didn't have any of their ballads in the setlist.. Green Day is a great band but the singles they have released in the past decade are just too common with other bands who release the same sort of mainstream songs. I would go without any of their ballads anytime (no matter how great they are). I like to think of Green Day as the best band to watch if you're looking for a REAL rock show but I think because their ballads exist they are no longer an option for people looking for something different. Every other Green Day song? Now that's different. If I were to be completely honest, I'd prefer less of the guyliner, less of the themed clothing, and a little less of the crowd pumping (though complete randomness for 20 minutes would be alright - see Woodstock 94).

I think it's understandable for some Green Day fans to be picky about which 'era' of Green Day they support especially those who prefer their older material. There's no other band out there that plays music the way Green Day did in the 90s. And it's frustrating because Green Day themselves aren't that close either and are hated on for being 'mainstream'.

[Neutral Milk Hotel]

I can't stand Kill the DJ, and I think Ashley is one of the best songs off of the trilogy.

[The Grouch is Tracy]

I like when they slow down and do a ballad live. I can catch my breath, and not get jumped on for a few minutes in the pit! Then I have energy for when the next kick-ass song is played. I think I would be exhausted if the played fast and loud for the whole 2-3 hour show.......

.... Damn autocorrect, fixed now...

[Bastard of 1969]

I like when they slow down and do a ballad live. I can catch my breath, and not get jumped on for a few minutes in the pit! Then I have energy for when the next kick-ass song is played. I think I would be exhausted if the played fast and loud for the whole 2-3 hour show.......

.... Damn autocorrect, fixed now...

Yea, you can especially see that one 21st Century Breakdown...

[Hermione]

But Green Day played big shows in the 90s with loads of the same repeated messing around/entertaining the crowd included and pretty much the same setlist at every show. There might be some one off shows that were really random/different, but if you look at their standard arena shows they were all very similar and all planned out just like now. It's always been the case that most of their shows were the same with just occasional "special" different ones whether it's Woodstock in the 90s or a secret club show now.

Have you guys actually seen them live? The theatrics are just an extra, it's the way they interact with the crowd and make it feel intimate that makes the shows great and that's what they've really improved at over the years. I think they're much better at connecting with the crowd now than they were in the 90s when they weren't as used to playing big venues. Now they put loads of effort into connecting with the crowd, as well as playing small clubs whenever they can. There's more opportunities to experience intimacy at a Green Day shows now than there ever was in the 90s from Dookie onwards when they were playing massive shows with less practice and virtually no club shows.

And as for ballads please, even their first album has a ballad on it (Rest), and they've always played slower songs as well as faster ones at shows. It's not like they used to be a hardcore punk band lol, they've always had slower and poppier moments in their music.

[WhiteTim]

And as for ballads please, even their first album has a ballad on it (Rest), and they've always played slower songs as well as faster ones at shows. It's not like they used to be a hardcore punk band lol, they've always had slower and poppier moments in their music.

Sshhh ypu'll hurt the fans that are in denial about GD always been a punk band til Good Riddance fans lol

[Z J]

But Green Day played big shows in the 90s with loads of the same repeated messing around/entertaining the crowd included and pretty much the same setlist at every show. There might be some one off shows that were really random/different, but if you look at their standard arena shows they were all very similar and all planned out just like now. It's always been the case that most of their shows were the same with just occasional "special" different ones whether it's Woodstock in the 90s or a secret club show now.

Have you guys actually seen them live? The theatrics are just an extra, it's the way they interact with the crowd and make it feel intimate that makes the shows great and that's what they've really improved at over the years. I think they're much better at connecting with the crowd now than they were in the 90s when they weren't as used to playing big venues. Now they put loads of effort into connecting with the crowd, as well as playing small clubs whenever they can. There's more opportunities to experience intimacy at a Green Day shows now than there ever was in the 90s from Dookie onwards when they were playing massive shows with less practice and virtually no club shows.

And as for ballads please, even their first album has a ballad on it (Rest), and they've always played slower songs as well as faster ones at shows. It's not like they used to be a hardcore punk band lol, they've always had slower and poppier moments in their music.

They're shows have actually gotten more intimate despite always increasing in size. Watch them on that MTV special in Chicago in 1995(?) and you'll notice very little crowd interaction. It was an amazing show but it wasn't "intimate"

And playing ballads makes for a more intimate experience because the show really slows down. I mean how much more intimate do you get than when they sing BOBD (especially during that first show back). One of their best qualities as a live act is their ability to make a large stadium gig feel like an intimate theatre show. And that's been repeated by countless critics who see Green Day for the first time

I don't understand why Green Day has to be a straight up Punk band to be good. They have never really even been that way.

[Seanz25]

Why do you care if someone feels like sticking some eyeliner on or not though? I honestly don't get why anyone cares about a bit of black around someone's eyes unless they're their stylist. Also, they often used to wear eyeliner back in the 39/Smooth / Kerplunk days too

I just have to tell you the story behind the name in case it helps change your mind . So, during the 21st CB tour some fans brought signs that said "Thank you" to a show and held them up during Good Riddance, and the band noticed and tweeted about it in appreciation. Then someone on GDC had the fabulous idea to bring signs that said "Awesome as fuck" instead. So a bunch of fans did it at the next show.......and the band saw them and was so amused that when the time came to name the live album they named it after the signs . I think it's brilliant, a special fun little joke and token of appreciation between the band and fans. It sums up a lot of what a Green Day show is about (having a laugh and breaking down the barrier between band and fans) for me. Even if you don't like the name gotta admit it has a cool story behind it

I knew the whole origin around it I just think it's a stupid name in terms of telling non-fans about it as someone pointed it out earlier. Plus I just generally don't like the name - It's telling me their a good band, I already know that, it just seems a really lame way of being arrogant.

I'm not the only one who hate's the eye liner to be fair, again just lot's of people whenever I mention the band it's "Oh they sing American Idiot and where eye liner right" - Just not a fan of the guy liner thing at all lol. Personal opinion.

1. No.
2. No.
3. FUCK NO.
4. Get out.

Awesome as Fuck was annoying as a joke but the album title itself pretty much said it all. It's not my favourite live album but it's decent.

Shows lived up to the title though.

Personal opinion dude.

[IamTheJudge's-Daughter]

I can't stand Kill the DJ, and I think Ashley is one of the best songs off of the trilogy.

you are just so right!

Someone in another topic mentioned that there is a line in kill the dj which is just so stupid:

the bullet that youre asked for is killing you to death

actually kind of funny

I'm not the only one who hate's the eye liner to be fair, again just lot's of people whenever I mention the band it's "Oh they sing American Idiot and where eye liner right" - Just not a fan of the guy liner thing at all lol. Personal opinion.

think youre right.. i thought it was ok until everyone came up with this emo stuff during american idiot era :/ and he is 41!

[kilawatcongo]

Is it an unpopular opinion to really like the artwork of the trilogy era?

I dunno, I just really like it. It's nice and colorful (which is weird for me to like cause I normally prefer darker stuff) and I like the new logo and think the skulls are kind of cute.

Not sure if this in unpopular or not, but I haven't seen many people comment on the matter, so I thought it might be. idk.

I dont like it honestly., mostly because the merch comes in colours I'd never wear. I'm not a fan of the neon stuff. I like the stuff the band wears now though, They have a theme going on that is totally stuff I would wear (leopard print, black and white stripes, burgundy, black, etc. ) the album artwork just doesn't really fit the band haha. I dunno.

I dig the xx's and the skulls though

[Spoopy Doo]

I'd really like another Network album.

(didn't know where to say it)

[SumDay]

These to opinions aren't really Green Day Opinions, but I think they're kinda like releated to them.

I hate The Network. Just like..hating. The music is shit.

And I really don't like Emiliys Army. I'm sorry

Seems like everyone here loves them but I don't know..they're nothing special.

[Chelsee Angevine]

you are just so right!

Someone in another topic mentioned that there is a line in kill the dj which is just so stupid:

the bullet that youre asked for is killing you to death

actually kind of funny

Is that really funnier than "Your thoughts are so unholy in the holiest of holes"? I can't get over that fucking line, personally. Though I fucking love KTDJ.

I pretty much hate all their ballads and would prefer they don't waste any time with them during shows. Same with Billie's crowd amping. I get the feeling most people really like that, but I'm really just looking at my watch and wondering what song will be next. It sucks because I get there early so I can be there in the very front row, all centered, so of COURSE I have to go through the motions and EY-OH at his face and clap my hands and sway 'em around just because I don't want Billie looking at me and being like "What the fuck is her problem? Too good for my commands.?" and of course it would look weird to the people around me who have also been outside since 7am.... But I digress...

I don't like the Trilogy artwork. Way too from-when-I-was-13-and-scene-kids-were-cool. With the skulls and shit? Literally looks like I made it in art class in the 7th grade.

[fromdecimateddreams]

Is that really funnier than "Your thoughts are so unholy in the holiest of holes"? I can't get over that fucking line, personally. Though I fucking love KTDJ.

I pretty much hate all their ballads and would prefer they don't waste any time with them during shows. Same with Billie's crowd amping. I get the feeling most people really like that, but I'm really just looking at my watch and wondering what song will be next. It sucks because I get there early so I can be there in the very front row, all centered, so of COURSE I have to go through the motions and EY-OH at his face and clap my hands and sway 'em around just because I don't want Billie looking at me and being like "What the fuck is her problem? Too good for my commands.?" and of course it would look weird to the people around me who have also been outside since 7am.... But I digress...

I don't like the Trilogy artwork. Way too from-when-I-was-13-and-scene-kids-were-cool. With the skulls and shit? Literally looks like I made it in art class in the 7th grade.

I think the "holiest of holes" is intentionally silly. It sounds stupid at a first glance, but if you actually look into it, it's basically saying that the narrator of the song is having unholy thoughts in a holy place. It's a clever play on words, really, but still amusing to poke fun at.

... and also, if you're not enjoying yourself at the shows, then why do you bother to go and get front row?

[Hermione]

I'm not the only one who hate's the eye liner to be fair, again just lot's of people whenever I mention the band it's "Oh they sing American Idiot and where eye liner right" - Just not a fan of the guy liner thing at all lol. Personal opinion.

See I like that haha. If someone's so small minded and looks obsessed that they'd judge a band by their make up habits I'm glad if it annoys them . Just preferring the look of them without it is another matter of course, just personal taste, but it does amuse me when people are actually bothered by it.

[Chelsee Angevine]

I think the "holiest of holes" is intentionally silly. It sounds stupid at a first glance, but if you actually look into it, it's basically saying that the narrator of the song is having unholy thoughts in a holy place. It's a clever play on words, really, but still amusing to poke fun at.

... and also, if you're not enjoying yourself at the shows, then why do you bother to go and get front row?

Haha, that may be true! It's no secret Billie Joe is good with his lyrics, but I like to think that among the brilliance, he truly does just have some stupid lines. It's humanizing! But who knows.

I enjoy the parts that aren't ballads and yelling. It might sound crazy but I'm basically sitting outside for 12 hours just for that moment where Billie Joe humps the stage.

(just kidding)