WhiteTim Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 the trilogy is better than 1039 and kerplunk. there i said it. This x1000
fromdecimateddreams Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 I don't really think it's fair to compare the trilogy to albums like 1039 and Kerplunk, not only because of the age difference, but because they're meant to be different. The trilogy was basically experimentation with the sound and the arc of the three albums. It's not like anything GD has ever done before, so holding it to the same standard as Dookie or anything else they've done doesn't really do much. Personally, I don't think it's their best work either(AI still takes the cake for me) but it's different, and not at all what we were expecting, which makes the trilogy great. they kind of just threw around tons of different ideas and put them together into 30 or so songs and released it, and that's awesome. I mean, Green Day have been around for 20+ years. They really don't need to worry so much about what's gonna sell and popularity anymore, so they have the freedom to experiment with stuff they wouldn't have ever tried before, and that's why the trilogy is awesome. In my opinion, at least.
munns6691 Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 I think the triology is better than 1039 and kerplunk because the songs have more variety. Hold on though how is it fair to compair 32 trilogy songs with 12 kerplunk songs? Obviously 32 songs will have more variety..
Eva Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 At this point, is it a popular opinion or an unpopular opinion to dislike Dos? I can't tell anymore. My rank for the Trilogy is Tre > Uno > Dos.
Iain Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 ¡TRÉ! is now one of my favourite Green Day albums ever. Easily. Suck on it. Hold on though how is it fair to compair 32 trilogy songs with 12 kerplunk songs? Obviously 32 songs will have more variety.. That's assuming 32 songs have more variety. Of course, the trilogy as a whole is various but it can still be compared to other albums as the trilogy counts as a album. You can't judge variety from quantity though.
isuckatthesethings Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 Hold on though how is it fair to compair 32 trilogy songs with 12 kerplunk songs? Obviously 32 songs will have more variety.. Im talking about kerplunk + smoothed out slappy hours/1039 which makes 31 songs. Both are awesome though
Tubbie Head Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 i've been trying really hard to just keep my mouth shut but damn. it's hard not to say anything because i love the trilogy so much and i want everyone else to love it too Hahah yeah! Let's show the Trilogy some love!!
DannyDirnt Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 I find it amazing how I like every song on ¡Dos!. I like around 5 songs on ¡Uno!, and for me that's pretty few for Green Day.
belinda jane Posted July 3, 2013 Posted July 3, 2013 i still need to warm up to dos. i don't listen to it nearly enough as i do with uno and tre. this must be done!
tdlyon Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I think Walk Away and Little Boy Named Train are fantastic. The only songs I don't really like on Tre are Drama Queen and The Forgotten, but I still really like both of them.
UNICORN VOMIT Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I love DOS - I don't know why people say that lazy bones has an unnecessary silence. that's the whole idea - "he doesn't want to hear it anymore". Everytime I listen to it - my heart hurts.
Z J Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 aghh nothing from the trilogy can be better than any of the other main releases save for maybe 39/Smooth and Kerplunk because the lyrics in the trilogy are ridiculous in more than half of the songs. Songs like fuck time are just jokes but if you honestly look at the trilogy, only a handful of songs are good lyrically/have actual meaning.
Eva Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 aghh nothing from the trilogy can be better than any of the other main releases save for maybe 39/Smooth and Kerplunk because the lyrics in the trilogy are ridiculous in more than half of the songs. Songs like fuck time are just jokes but if you honestly look at the trilogy, only a handful of songs are good lyrically/have actual meaning. This is exactly how I feel about the Trilogy. I like a few songs and I think a few are really good, but the Trilogy as a whole will never compare to Dookie or Warning or American Idiot or any of their other releases. Hell, it doesn't even compare with Shenanigans, and that's not technically a "real" album.
fromdecimateddreams Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I think there's a lot of good lyrical work on the trilogy, actually. Just because we've seen some really intricate extended metaphors and philosophical things that Billie had written in years past doesn't demean what he wrote for the trilogy. A lot of the lyrics are quite simple, yes, but it's that kind of simplicity that has deep meaning once you read into it more.
belinda jane Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 aghh nothing from the trilogy can be better than any of the other main releases save for maybe 39/Smooth and Kerplunk because the lyrics in the trilogy are ridiculous in more than half of the songs. Songs like fuck time are just jokes but if you honestly look at the trilogy, only a handful of songs are good lyrically/have actual meaning. wasn't the trilogy meant to have those type of fun songs, though? i don't think you can even compare the trilogy to those kind of albums because they're two totally different things. and i don't really believe that all music needs to be good lyrically and have actual meaning.
Eva Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 That was the point of the trilogy. Then maybe I don't like the point of the Trilogy? Just because that's how the band wanted it to turn out, doesn't mean I have to like it 'cause they achieved their goal.
belinda jane Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Then maybe I don't like the point of the Trilogy? Just because that's how the band wanted it to turn out, doesn't mean I have to like it 'cause they achieved their goal. nobody said you had to like it. that's the whole point of having an 'opinion', and we're just sharing ours.
UNICORN VOMIT Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Lyrically I love the trilogy - it just does my head in how billie can write so many songs - genius. Imagine how many he has just lying around. Probably wrong place to post this.
Z J Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 wasn't the trilogy meant to have those type of fun songs, though? i don't think you can even compare the trilogy to those kind of albums because they're two totally different things. and i don't really believe that all music needs to be good lyrically and have actual meaning. Songs can be fun but still have meaning. See: Dookie. And that's fair if you don't need great lyrics to enjoy a song. I enjoy songs a lot more when I the lyrics are meaningful/witty or the song has some meaning to it. That's just me. But yes I think we can compare the trilogy to green days other albums because when they were releasing them they didn't say "hey we just goofed around don't take these songs seriously" they said they were going back to the basics.
Chelsee Angevine Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Songs can be fun but still have meaning. See: Dookie. And that's fair if you don't need great lyrics to enjoy a song. I enjoy songs a lot more when I the lyrics are meaningful/witty or the song has some meaning to it. That's just me. But yes I think we can compare the trilogy to green days other albums because when they were releasing them they didn't say "hey we just goofed around don't take these songs seriously" they said they were going back to the basics. Is it an unpopular opinion to suggest that Dookie wasn't very lyrically brilliant but that their most lyrically powerful was probably 21st Century Breakdown or American Idiot this is such a run-on sentence I am mildly stoned.
Z J Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 I think there's a lot of good lyrical work on the trilogy, actually. Just because we've seen some really intricate extended metaphors and philosophical things that Billie had written in years past doesn't demean what he wrote for the trilogy. A lot of the lyrics are quite simple, yes, but it's that kind of simplicity that has deep meaning once you read into it more. Obviously with the trilogy, the lyrical work is going to be vastly different than the 2 rock operas. But the simplicity you speak of is something that green day mastered with their albums prior to AI. The trilogy has a few really good lyrical songs but half the songs have no meaning it seems. DRB, Stop When the Red Lights Flash, Baby Eyes, Angel Blue, and A little boy named train are songs off of the top of my head that don't seem to have a meaning. And to add to that, Sex Drugs and Violence, Missing You, Let Yourself Go, 99 Revolutions, Troublemaker, and others just don't have great lyrics
belinda jane Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Songs can be fun but still have meaning. See: Dookie. And that's fair if you don't need great lyrics to enjoy a song. I enjoy songs a lot more when I the lyrics are meaningful/witty or the song has some meaning to it. That's just me. But yes I think we can compare the trilogy to green days other albums because when they were releasing them they didn't say "hey we just goofed around don't take these songs seriously" they said they were going back to the basics. personally, i think the trilogy is on a totally different level to dookie and their older stuff and that's why i cannot compare the two. they've experienced more throughout their lives when releasing the trilogy and have grown musically. but again, that's my opinion.
Z J Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 Is it an unpopular opinion to suggest that Dookie wasn't very lyrically brilliant but that their most lyrically powerful was probably 21st Century Breakdown or American Idiot this is such a run-on sentence I am mildly stoned. Lucky you! And I wouldn't call Dookie brilliant lyrically but it was witty, funny, and meaningful. I agree AI and 21 CB are very powerful i dunno i think the simplicity of a lot of the lyrics on the trilogy fit the mood they were going for. there's definitely some terrible lines (aka almost all of missing you) but for the most part i think it works. that's just me though. i'm glad they didn't do something in the vein of ai and 21cb again as much as i love those albums. I don't doubt that's what they were going for. And you're right, there was no way they could don a 3rd rock opera in row.
belinda jane Posted July 4, 2013 Posted July 4, 2013 i dunno i think the simplicity of a lot of the lyrics on the trilogy fit the mood they were going for. there's definitely some terrible lines (aka almost all of missing you) but for the most part i think it works. that's just me though. i'm glad they didn't do something in the vein of ai and 21cb again as much as i love those albums. totally agree. i'm glad they broke away from the massive songs/album vibe.
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