Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think that green day is very underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think that green day is very underrated. Amen lol. by the way, it's unpopular opinions among us GDCers not the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Comedy wise, I think their peak level of witty, dirty, entertaining lyrics was Nimrod (plus Walking Contradiction, Brat, parts of Shenanigans, etc..) basically the late nineties. A.I. and 21CB didn't really allow for that of course. Now, with the trilogy, they returned to the dirty, but forgot the witty and carefree things. The only one that does it 100% for me is Fuck Time, a FBHT song. After that, Kill the DJ? Troublemaker? Stray Heart and X-Kid's music video? I think you hit the nail on the head. And that's the problem for me - the dirty without the witty and carefree is just kind of...meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think you hit the nail on the head. And that's the problem for me - the dirty without the witty and carefree is just kind of...meh. The premise was straight up, nothing held back, just singing about sex and drugs and partying. A decent, interesting premise, but if you say something with a straight face, no matter how funny it might seem, don't expect a fit of laughter in return. Tre isn't even supposed to be entertaining in that sense. If it's the so called rehab, the recovery after the party, there's nothing to laugh at. Exception made for The Hangover, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I think that green day is very underrated. I agree. And yes, I realize they have had much commercial popularity at times in their career and have a large fan base. I think they are underrated in that they really should be getting a lot more respect than they do for how lasting and impactful their career has become. When they first started, I'm sure no one felt they would last past the Dookie era. The fact that they had a second peak in popularity with American Idiot is nothing short of amazing. Not very many bands experience that. Their continuously growing fan base filled with young listeners is also impressive, as many bands who have been around 20+ years are still getting such a huge influx of young listeners. They are truly a band made to last. They've made it over 20 years without changing their core lineup. They still actually WANT to play together. They've managed to stay true to who they are while branching out and trying new things. Their album was made into a Broadway musical, for god's sake. All this, and still I don't feel they're respected. Maybe it takes longer than this for most bands to receive respect, but truly, I feel as though that when all is said and done, they should be up there with The Rolling Stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cath Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree. And yes, I realize they have had much commercial popularity at times in their career and have a large fan base. I think they are underrated in that they really should be getting a lot more respect than they do for how lasting and impactful their career has become. When they first started, I'm sure no one felt they would last past the Dookie era. The fact that they had a second peak in popularity with American Idiot is nothing short of amazing. Not very many bands experience that. Their continuously growing fan base filled with young listeners is also impressive, as many bands who have been around 20+ years are still getting such a huge influx of young listeners. They are truly a band made to last. They've made it over 20 years without changing their core lineup. They still actually WANT to play together. They've managed to stay true to who they are while branching out and trying new things. Their album was made into a Broadway musical, for god's sake. All this, and still I don't feel they're respected. Maybe it takes longer than this for most bands to receive respect, but truly, I feel as though that when all is said and done, they should be up there with The Rolling Stones. i agree that they're not respected enough from what they've done. people still see them as the guy wearing eyeliner and a gay band or whatever. i don't know if one day they'll be as respected as the RS, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, Metallica, Guns N Roses, well those big known bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree. And yes, I realize they have had much commercial popularity at times in their career and have a large fan base. I think they are underrated in that they really should be getting a lot more respect than they do for how lasting and impactful their career has become. When they first started, I'm sure no one felt they would last past the Dookie era. The fact that they had a second peak in popularity with American Idiot is nothing short of amazing. Not very many bands experience that. Their continuously growing fan base filled with young listeners is also impressive, as many bands who have been around 20+ years are still getting such a huge influx of young listeners. They are truly a band made to last. They've made it over 20 years without changing their core lineup. They still actually WANT to play together. They've managed to stay true to who they are while branching out and trying new things. Their album was made into a Broadway musical, for god's sake. All this, and still I don't feel they're respected. Maybe it takes longer than this for most bands to receive respect, but truly, I feel as though that when all is said and done, they should be up there with The Rolling Stones. It scares me that without American Idiot, it would have been flip of the coin as to whether they would ever get into the hall of fame. They're a cemented candidate now. For the unpopularity - all the haters are total hypocrites. We all know they were singing Holiday in the shower in '05 Just be glad GD isn't a boy bandi agree that they're not respected enough from what they've done. people still see them as the guy wearing eyeliner and a gay band or whatever. i don't know if one day they'll be as respected as the RS, AC/DC, Pink Floyd, Metallica, Guns N Roses, well those big known bands. With those bands comes a tornado of righteous, holier than thou fans and critiques. I don't care for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I agree. And yes, I realize they have had much commercial popularity at times in their career and have a large fan base. I think they are underrated in that they really should be getting a lot more respect than they do for how lasting and impactful their career has become. When they first started, I'm sure no one felt they would last past the Dookie era. The fact that they had a second peak in popularity with American Idiot is nothing short of amazing. Not very many bands experience that. Their continuously growing fan base filled with young listeners is also impressive, as many bands who have been around 20+ years are still getting such a huge influx of young listeners. They are truly a band made to last. They've made it over 20 years without changing their core lineup. They still actually WANT to play together. They've managed to stay true to who they are while branching out and trying new things. Their album was made into a Broadway musical, for god's sake. All this, and still I don't feel they're respected. Maybe it takes longer than this for most bands to receive respect, but truly, I feel as though that when all is said and done, they should be up there with The Rolling Stones. Yeah you pretty much took the words right out of my mouth. This band is just not respected enough and they have worked so hard! I can't wait to see them at the rock n roll hall of fame, not to represent a band but to be represented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insomniac45 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I honestly think the reason that the trilogy didn't blow up as big as it should of is because of the current music scene. Pop-rock, punk-rock and just rock in general isn't the big thing at the moment. It's all about the electronic music and variations of it. Dubstep, techno, etc. And I honestly think that's a pile of horse shit, because quite frankly, all the electronic music IS shit. I mean honestly, dubstep is terrible. (No offense to any of the electronic music fans out there, I'm simply just giving my opinion.) Call me crazy, but I actually like connecting to the music I listen to and actually feel what the band was feeling at the time that they wrote that certain song, lyrically and instrumentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I honestly think the reason that the trilogy didn't blow up as big as it should of is because of the current music scene. Pop-rock, punk-rock and just rock in general isn't the big thing at the moment. It's all about the electronic music and variations of it. Dubstep, techno, etc. And I honestly think that's a pile of horse shit, because quite frankly, all the electronic music IS shit. I mean honestly, dubstep is terrible. (No offense to any of the electronic music fans out there, I'm simply just giving my opinion.) Call me crazy, but I actually like connecting to the music I listen to and actually feel what the band was feeling at the time that they wrote that certain song, lyrically and instrumentally. Yeah but then I think about Fall Out Boy and it blows my mind. Fall out boy is pop rock and I think green days music today is imo pop rock too and Fall Out Boy got so much attention. Could have been because they weren't alive for awhile but still. Idk I'm just talking. I truly believe tho that if Green Day actually tried to promote the albums like pay for commercials or do some interviews the trilogy could still be a success ! Oh and a nightlife music video wouldn't hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 fall out boy only got a lot of attention because they were on hiatus or whatever for long enough that i'm pretty sure everyone thought they were done for good, or at least i did. the new fob record sold 154,000 in it's first week and uno sold 139,000 in it's first week and that doesn't seem like a really huge difference to me? especially considering it had been five years since the last fob album and only three since the last gd album. they're both pop-rock bands but they don't sound anything alike and i think fall out boy lean more towards the pop side of things especially on save rock and roll which also probably has a lot to do with it. Yeah true I guess in reality FOBs music will get played on the radio more because they don't have songs like fuck time and kill the dj haha. No but yeah I see what you're saying. It just sucks that this is how it planned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 fall out boy only got a lot of attention because they were on hiatus or whatever for long enough that i'm pretty sure everyone thought they were done for good, or at least i did. the new fob record sold 154,000 in it's first week and uno sold 139,000 in it's first week and that doesn't seem like a really huge difference to me? especially considering it had been five years since the last fob album and only three since the last gd album. they're both pop-rock bands but they don't sound anything alike and i think fall out boy lean more towards the pop side of things especially on save rock and roll which also probably has a lot to do with it. Really? FOB was at the top of the iTunes chart its first week, so this surprises me. No, that isn't much of a difference at all. I was under the impression that FOB's new album did way better than any of the trilogy albums, but I guess not! Save Rock and Roll is FAR less rock-oriented than their previous music. Very indie rock/pop sounding. I like it, but it is obvious that it fits current trends rather than sticking with FOB's older sound. Agreed, though, that rock simply isn't "in" right now. Popular music ebbs and flows, and rock music isn't where it was at when American Idiot came out. It seems to mostly be indie rock and hip hop at the moment. That drastically effects album sales even for artists who are overall considered to be popular. The trilogy would've done better had it gotten more promotion, for sure. But I don't think it was ever going to be a huge commercial hit, because that kind of music isn't popular right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 fall out boy only got a lot of attention because they were on hiatus or whatever for long enough that i'm pretty sure everyone thought they were done for good, or at least i did. the new fob record sold 154,000 in it's first week and uno sold 139,000 in it's first week and that doesn't seem like a really huge difference to me? especially considering it had been five years since the last fob album and only three since the last gd album. they're both pop-rock bands but they don't sound anything alike and i think fall out boy lean more towards the pop side of things especially on save rock and roll which also probably has a lot to do with it. Blink 182 begs to differ. They've remained in the shadows relatively since Neighborhoods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casey1251 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 More videos with the Farm League! I know they weren't the standard music videos, but "Stay The Night" & "Nuclear Family "are great performance pieces that really shows off how tight & in the pocket that band is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedOut Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I honestly think the reason that the trilogy didn't blow up as big as it should of is because of the current music scene. Pop-rock, punk-rock and just rock in general isn't the big thing at the moment. It's all about the electronic music and variations of it. Dubstep, techno, etc. And I honestly think that's a pile of horse shit, because quite frankly, all the electronic music IS shit. I mean honestly, dubstep is terrible. (No offense to any of the electronic music fans out there, I'm simply just giving my opinion.) Call me crazy, but I actually like connecting to the music I listen to and actually feel what the band was feeling at the time that they wrote that certain song, lyrically and instrumentally. I totally agree. I remember when the trailers were first put out, I was telling everyone I knew (even those who weren't Green Day fans) that these albums were gonna be coming out. I was telling friends, I was telling people at school and everyone thought the whole idea of the trilogy was awesome. I remember when Know Your Enemy was released. Everyone was listening to it. A lot of my friends bought the CD. All was good. And yeah, I'm not much of a dubstep fan either. I have noticed though that when it comes to being a stereotypical outcast nowadays (or at least, from where I come from) the preferred music is metalcore. Those sixteen year olds who would get picked on at school don't go looking for bands like Rancid or Screeching Weasel anymore. And definitely not Green Day or Blink-182. The 'outcasts' of today define rebellion as Asking Alexandria, Pierce the Veil, and Attack-Attack. I personally am not a fan of these bands. To me, rebellion is still what I find in the roots of Green Day - and that's punk rock. I guess people have a different preference of music nowadays. Either that or a different version of the same kind.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 at least make a 99 revolutions video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Apart from Stray Heart, I've been so bothered by the videos for this trilogy that I don't even want them to make one for 99 Revs! I get angry about the video for Oh Love just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Apart from Stray Heart, I've been so bothered by the videos for this trilogy that I don't even want them to make one for 99 Revs! I get angry about the video for Oh Love just thinking about it. thank you! Oh Love music video just makes me think of one word and it's 'why' That song is actually really good, they could have done so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenesisJames Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 thank you! Oh Love music video just makes me think of one word and it's 'why' That song is actually really good, they could have done so much better. To be fair, the music video for "Oh Love" pretty much defines what the Trilogy's about, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stories and songs Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 thank you! Oh Love music video just makes me think of one word and it's 'why' That song is actually really good, they could have done so much better. I know. I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion or not (I think it was fairly split, IDK), but the video for Oh Love genuinely kind of pissed me off. Sitting around drinking with a bunch of half-naked girls is not Green Day to me. Oy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schlappy Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I know. I'm not sure if this is an unpopular opinion or not (I think it was fairly split, IDK), but the video for Oh Love genuinely kind of pissed me off. Sitting around drinking with a bunch of half-naked girls is not Green Day to me. Oy. i did a really good job convincing myself that never existed... compare oh love to the JOS video and the same themes are all there, but JOS has so much meaning. its not the nakedness or booze really, its the art of it. oh love was just gross. but ugh thats an old can of worms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothedOut Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Yeah but then I think about Fall Out Boy and it blows my mind. Fall out boy is pop rock and I think green days music today is imo pop rock too and Fall Out Boy got so much attention. Could have been because they weren't alive for awhile but still. Idk I'm just talking. I truly believe tho that if Green Day actually tried to promote the albums like pay for commercials or do some interviews the trilogy could still be a success ! I like how the band's dealt with it though. Has anyone read Billie's interview on Rolling Stone? He didn't really care about the album sales. He still thinks the songs on the trilogy is some of the best stuff he's ever written. For me, the band showing confidence in their work no matter how unsuccessful it may have become makes up for most of the disappointments. And I think Green Day has better fans than Fall Out Boy. For Fall Out Boy's new album, you get both the fans and mainstream pop-goers to buy the album. Green Day chose to break away from mainstream demands and went back to their roots. Yet Uno went to No. 2 on some charts. True fans stay loyal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyHandGrenade Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I like how the band's dealt with it though. Has anyone read Billie's interview on Rolling Stone? He didn't really care about the album sales. He still thinks the songs on the trilogy is some of the best stuff he's ever written. For me, the band showing confidence in their work no matter how unsuccessful it may have become makes up for most of the disappointments. And I think Green Day has better fans than Fall Out Boy. For Fall Out Boy's new album, you get both the fans and mainstream pop-goers to buy the album. Green Day chose to break away from mainstream demands and went back to their roots. Yet Uno went to No. 2 on some charts. True fans stay loyal! I've heard some bad things in interviews about the crowds at some of FOB's concerts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strayheart1219 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 i did a really good job convincing myself that never existed... compare oh love to the JOS video and the same themes are all there, but JOS has so much meaning. its not the nakedness or booze really, its the art of it. oh love was just gross. but ugh thats an old can of worms omg jos and oh love can not be compared! JOS had a story line and oh love like you said just had half naked girls and booze. i'm sorry to say but their mid life crises was showing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteTim Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 omg jos and oh love can not be compared! JOS had a story line and oh love like you said just had half naked girls and booze. i'm sorry to say but their mid life crises was showing Oh love video was about booze and sex the trilogy is about booze and sex i say the video played to the album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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