Any one here disappointed with the newer albums?

[Cob]

fantastic point. American Idiot has had time to settle into it's position in their discography amongst fans. These are fresh and new and really need some time to breathe. We have had Tre for only a month now, making it very very new in particular. Comparing it to AI isn't even very vaild to begin with. Plus, why not 21st in that case? I feel that it is just as good if not better. I listened to them both the other day, and didn't enjoy AI quite as much as 21st.

I was listening to 21st Century Breakdown this morning. The music is fantastic. But there is something about the production that bothers me: the guitar sound. On a majority of the songs it feels distant, not up front like on most previous albums. It's still heavy and big with plenty of layering and distortion, but it's almost too compressed, like it should be louder instead of taking a back to the drums and other instrumentation. I don't know, maybe my ears aren't working right today.

[Guest]

Exactly this. When I listen to a Green Day album, I know what songs are good because they move me. Whether it be the music, the message, or everything at once, I feel my senses get completely overwhelmed and I go through what I call the "immediate effect". I find myself in an absolute daze while listening to it, I'm wide-eyed and completely aware of the sounds in the music. There is an energy I feel, something honest and real coming from the noise, from the music. Green Day is one of the few bands that does this to me. Songs don't grow on me until I put some "brain" into it, but I lead with my emotions, with "my heart", to be cliche.

American Idiot had this effect. Insomniac had this effect. Warning had this effect. Dookie had this effect. Kerplunk had this effect. A greater part of Nimrod had this effect (Jinx/Haushinka, Scattered to name a few). The 1000 Hours EP. The Slappy EP. On the trilogy, everything had some sort of effect on me, sans maybe 3 or 4 songs out of 37. In my opinion, that's a success.

And this, my friend, is why you are one of my favourite posters on this site. Couldn't have said it better myself

I was listening to 21st Century Breakdown this morning. The music is fantastic. But there is something about the production that bothers me: the guitar sound. On a majority of the songs it feels distant, not up front like on most previous albums. It's still heavy and big with plenty of layering and distortion, but it's almost too compressed, like it should be louder instead of taking a back to the drums and other instrumentation. I don't know, maybe my ears aren't working right today.

Nope, I've always thought the same. Never liked the guitar on that album.

[Platypus2000]

I was listening to 21st Century Breakdown this morning. The music is fantastic. But there is something about the production that bothers me: the guitar sound. On a majority of the songs it feels distant, not up front like on most previous albums. It's still heavy and big with plenty of layering and distortion, but it's almost too compressed, like it should be louder instead of taking a back to the drums and other instrumentation. I don't know, maybe my ears aren't working right today.

No...!

I'm sorry to have to disagree with you, but putting it down to production reasons...? I cannot help but feel that that's the most pettiest excuse, for me, I'm not really bothered.

I understand some people are sound maniacs and the mix has to be perfect.otherwise they cannot like the album.

Each to thier own man, I s'pose

[Cob]

No...!

I'm sorry to have to disagree with you, but putting it down to production reasons...? I cannot help but feel that that's the most pettiest excuse, for me, I'm not really bothered.

I understand some people are sound maniacs and the mix has to be perfect.otherwise they cannot like the album.

Each to thier own man, I s'pose

Well I never said I disliked the album. I still think it's a good, solid release. I just have some minor gripes with the production. The album, lyrics, music, everything else is (mostly) great.

[WhiteTim]

I was listening to 21st Century Breakdown this morning. The music is fantastic. But there is something about the production that bothers me: the guitar sound. On a majority of the songs it feels distant, not up front like on most previous albums. It's still heavy and big with plenty of layering and distortion, but it's almost too compressed, like it should be louder instead of taking a back to the drums and other instrumentation. I don't know, maybe my ears aren't working right today.

i think thats how it was meant to be recorded and how it supposed to sound

[Guest RedStrokes]

I feel like there's way more high points on the trilogy, than low. Brutal love and makeout party are now two of my favorites out of their music . In the trilogy I think they just let go and let green day do what green day does best. And that's create unique art that people all over the world connect with emotionally and spiritually. I'm glad they didn't make American idiot part 3, because if they did I dont think I would be this damn happy.

[Guest As Good As It Gets]

This thread has been interesting - it is interesting to see people respond to this thread in the positive way they have, which I find refreshing

My opinion still stands, of course, but watching others share their enthusiasm is very satisfying, to me

[Annie, get your gun]

It's what you should do with any album really, but it happens a hell of a lot with Green Day.

It's like people cannot get American Idiot out of thier heads. When people bought Uno!, I bet you the first thing that they thought was "Oh, it's good, but not as good as American Idiot" WHY?

It's Uno,! Not American Idiot pt 2. But yeah, Green Day have never majorly disappointed me, maybe a little with Warning but hey, they've certainly got more positives to me outweighing the neghatives

Haha although I never compared them. To me American Idiot's still my favorite album and I don't know if there's gonna be an album that overcomes it; but in this trilogy some songs blow my mind. There are some songs that I like less than others but it doesn't mean "disappointment". It's what's great of having diversity

[Platypus2000]

Well I never said I disliked the album. I still think it's a good, solid release. I just have some minor gripes with the production. The album, lyrics, music, everything else is (mostly) great.

Phew! respect re-gained

I agree, the lyrics are some of the best ever written by Billie. Dare I say, I slightly prefer it over AI *runs and hides before he gets killed*

[Guest RedStrokes]

Oh you mean that? In Stay The Night maybe, but in the others it's supposed to have a cintage radio type sound. I love it to death X]

Exactly. That's what I mean. I don't mean I hate all green days radio single, but they just aren't as good as the lesser known tracks that don't have radio quality sound about to them.

[FatVince]

This thread has been interesting - it is interesting to see people respond to this thread in the positive way they have, which I find refreshing

My opinion still stands, of course, but watching others share their enthusiasm is very satisfying, to me

It's the beauty of music. When people can talk about different opinions without be "you disagree, you're wrong, you suck" (is it a good parody ?), it's always interesting. It's one of the most subjective arts in the world.

[Guest As Good As It Gets]

Absolutely - no two opinions completely match

But they can sure come close

[Platypus2000]

Haha although I never compared them. To me American Idiot's still my favorite album and I don't know if there's gonna be an album that overcomes it; but in this trilogy some songs blow my mind. There are some songs that I like less than others but it doesn't mean "disappointment". It's what's great of having diversity

If you just look at the sheer amount of spread of love for a different song off the trilogy, not mention the amount variety that's chucked in there, I just cannot see how anyone can be disappointed with such a great range of genres and styles across 3 different albums

[J&TheNight]

I was listening to 21st Century Breakdown this morning. The music is fantastic. But there is something about the production that bothers me: the guitar sound. On a majority of the songs it feels distant, not up front like on most previous albums. It's still heavy and big with plenty of layering and distortion, but it's almost too compressed, like it should be louder instead of taking a back to the drums and other instrumentation. I don't know, maybe my ears aren't working right today.

No that's always there. Truthfully it's not the production mess many make it out to be, but the guitars could have been more in your face like AI.

[Annie, get your gun]

If you just look at the sheer amount of spread of love for a different song off the trilogy, not mention the amount variety that's chucked in there, I just cannot see how anyone can be disappointed with such a great range of genres and styles across 3 different albums

I don't know!

A sure thing is that there's something for everybody, and even the people who doesn't like it that much, love and enjoy a few songs from it

[J&TheNight]

This thread has been interesting - it is interesting to see people respond to this thread in the positive way they have, which I find refreshing

My opinion still stands, of course, but watching others share their enthusiasm is very satisfying, to me

Yea this could have gotten really negative and overly opinionated very quickly. luckily it has not!

[Cob]

i think thats how it was meant to be recorded and how it supposed to sound

I know, but I just wish that in some parts the guitar would really take over. Like in the chorus of Static Age, that's a big fuckin' chorus, but the rhythm guitar just comes off as distant to me.

[Judges daughter 93]

If you just look at the sheer amount of spread of love for a different song off the trilogy, not mention the amount variety that's chucked in there, I just cannot see how anyone can be disappointed with such a great range of genres and styles across 3 different albums

Because Trilogy was meant to be like this. With 37 songs everyone can find something for themselves And that makes this Trilogy a masterpiece for me.

The only thing that really bothers me is that it's so underrated work! And that it'll be truly appreciated by the next generation

[Graysen]

Ngl, I'm not impressed by the new albums. I think I like a total of 5 songs out of the 3 albums they released. I still love Green Day, I just don't like their new direction I guess.

[Cob]

No that's always there. Truthfully it's not the production mess many make it out to be, but the guitars could have been more in your face like AI.

Truth. The production isn't a complete disaster like some people think or say it is, on a majority of the songs it fits really well, especially on songs driven by more instruments, like Peacemaker or Viva La Gloria (Little Girl).

[Platypus2000]

Because Trilogy was meant to be like this. With 37 songs everyone can find something for themselves And that makes this Trilogy a masterpiece for me.

The only thing that really bothers me is that it's so underrated work! And that it'll be truly appreciated by the next generation

Agreed. So much good music is to be heard and it's a shame that it's being tucked and kept away among Green Day fans

[J&TheNight]

Truth. The production isn't a complete disaster like some people think or say it is, on a majority of the songs it fits really well, especially on songs driven by more instruments, like Peacemaker or Viva La Gloria (Little Girl).

Exactly. In many songs the huge sound of AI would have had a really negative affect. Know Your Enemy is really the only one (off the top of my head) that may have benefited from a bigger sound. Maybe East Jesus as well, but MAYBE. Horseshoes and Handgrenades, again, a big MAYBE. I really like where that one is, with a crisp distortion over a chugging bass and really raw drums.

[Platypus2000]

Exactly. In many songs the huge sound of AI would have had a really negative affect. Know Your Enemy is really the only one (off the top of my head) that may have benefited from a bigger sound. Maybe East Jesus as well, but MAYBE. Horseshoes and Handgrenades, again, a big MAYBE. I really like where that one is, with a crisp distortion over a chugging bass and really raw drums.

The distortion for Horshoes and Handgreanades was perfect!

[Vespertine]

Honestly, I wasn't expecting a concept album or anything like that. I was expecting a great album, lyrically and musically; That's all.

None of these new albums impressed me.

[gerardsangel4977]

I disagree, my trilogy playlist flows very well

So does International Superhits. That doesn't mean it's an adequate replacement for those 4 albums.

Maybe if people lowered thier expectations a little, they wouldn't be so disappointed when the final product comes out....

Green Day are not super human beings that can churn out masterpiece after masterpiece, they're normal people too, give em a break, and every new album that they produce should be listened to for the first time with a completely open mind.

This is very true. "Disappointment" is an interesting thing because it's weighted just as heavily on what your personal expectations are as it is on what the band produces.