Stefano Bras Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Jesus of suburbia is FIVE songs combined. The third part, I don't Care, is very obviously a filler. How long do you think it took Billie to write those lines. I can write a song like that in 5 minutes. Repetitive songs from UNO: Stay the Night, Carpe Diem, Nuclear Family (Hard to admit because that's the only song I like, but it is), Kill the DJ (The Clean version is the worst thing I have ever heard in my life) Fell for You, Troublemaker, Oh Love, Loss of control. And also, they're called opinions. Deal with it. Go ahead, i dare you
sundown Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 One... I love Green Day. Two... They're my favorite band. Three... I'm not going sit here and defend everything they do. Tre absolutely was horrendous. Everyone hyped it up to be the best of the trilogy and I was so excited, only to hear it and be extremely disappointed. It was an absolute snoozefest. Brutal Love is not some amazing top-of-the-line opening track. It's too long, repetitive and boring. Now we find ourselves on Missing You, a barely average track, which picks up the pace a little bit but the lyrics are so cliche and redundant it's not even funny. It almost seems like they're not trying. Next up - 8th Avenue Serenade and Drama Queen - both respectfully inadequate, the latter even more so. Those lyrics are "she's old enough to bleed now?" Come on. Talk about cringeworthy. X-Kid is getting a whole lot of praise but I don't see it. I nearly fell asleep during that one. The album does have a few highlights nonetheless, one of those being Sex, Drugs, & Violence. It wasn't astounding, it didn't blow me away, but it was a nice change of pace from the rest of the album. Mike's part was a nice surprise, The album takes another turn for the worst after the passable Little Boy Named Train with Amanda. "Amanda, I'm a man now"... That's not clever...witty....funny....or anything close to it. The songwriting on this trilogy hasn't been the best I know, but God can you get anymore awful? Shouldn't have asked...up next is Walk Away. This is the song I will use as an example as to prove why this album is ass. The same overdone subject matter we've seen time and time again. I hate radio rock. Next, I do get a pleasant surprise with Dirty Rotten Bastards, the only track which I THOROUGHLY enjoyed the whole way through. It sounded like they had fun with it. 99 Revolutions was OK. I hate The Forgotten more than I hate Oh Love. And it suffers from the same problem Oh Love does, except it's somehow even slower. If you ever want to go to sleep, I recommend you listen to this album. Before you all start saying this or that - I LIKED Uno and Dos! I'm a pretty optimistic person and had fun with those two records. There were songs I hated (Sweet 16, Oh Love, Fuck Time, Wild One) but generally I enjoyed them. I loved Kill The DJ and Nightlife, I love how they experimented and went somewhere new. With Tre, they didn't do that whatsoever. Radio rock is garbage and I know Green Day has been close to before, but never to this extent. I'm so disappointed I've never hated a Green Day album until now, and trust me, I've tried to be optimistic about Tre but I can't sit through this made for radio crap. Another complaint with the trilogy as a WHOLE, it lacks punch. The riffs aren't memorable. The choruses, albeit some were very catchy, are forgettable. It's too polished. Everything about it sounds cleaned up and polished. Billie's voice doesn't sound like Billie's voice...It's WAY too clean and WAY too boring. It's not raw. It doesn't sound like anything close to what you would hear live. None of these albums really sound like any former album. There's not the rawness of "Take Back" the nasily, angry "Brat" or the absurd catchiness of "Basket Case". None of this sounds like Green Day to me. I know bands change, and I appreciate that. But it doesn't sound like they're evolving. It sounds like they're de-evolving and not putting all their hearts into it. The trilogy feels mostly sloppy and lazy. This is coming from someone who LOVES Green Day and would support them to the end of time....I'm disappointed. sleep? hahaha
Asa. Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Also, we can add Julianna Homicide to the list of Green Day characters!
joeysturkeyhead Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Can people please stop talking like they're some kind of experts? Get over yourselves, have your own opinions but don't argue against others opinions then, cause this is all about personal opinions none of us are experts and actually no one can tell who's actually the best songwriter because it's all about taste, even if it's not allways the most advanced/poethic lyrics it can still be really good.
Cameron. Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 R&B is not R&B. Go listen to some real R&B from the 50's and 60's. He just sounds like a clean version of Kanye West. And please, don't compare "R&B" with Pop Punk/Power Pop, it's like comparing Michael Jackson with Metallica. But if you still want to compare songwriting, please show me one piece of his music half relevant compared to Dookie or AI. Please, show me. Green Day hasn't been around for 2 days and haven't released only these 3 albums, correct? And go read some lyrics of the artists I provided. Alright, since you want to be technical to make yourself look smarter, no Frank Ocean is not the R&B you're thinking of, he's classified in subgenre of it known as contemporary R&B which originates from the 80's, But he incorporates a lot of indie rock themes to make himself standout from the pack He doesn't sound even remotely close to Kanye West, that comparison obviously shows you have no real knowledge of hip-hop and R&B. They are completely different. And please, don't assume I'm comparing, I'm not. All I stated was that channel ORANGE was better than Uno, Dos, and Tre and that was it. I didn't say they shared any similarities, because they don't. http://rapgenius.com/Frank-ocean-pyramids-lyrics That song depicts Frank's lyrical prowess perfectly. He's a great storyteller. And really, you can't put Dookie up under the microscope for best lyrics ever because it's about teenage angst, drugs, and masturbation. It's catchy, raw, and you could relate to it. That's what made it so great, not the jaw dropping lyrics. Billie doesn't have phenomenal lyrical ability, in my opinion. He definitely was improving with each album released, 21CB has some of the best Green Day lyrics ever, but after Uno was released it DROPPED significantly. He CAN write good lyrics he's just not trying. I can think of so many other artists that can write songs that are ten times better than anything Billie could dream of writing.
spacesauce Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I've done so good holding out so far. I'm thinking I may spoil one song for myself for such good behavior Any suggestions?
DeJennsitized Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I've listened to the album a few times the whole way through. I really like it I was going to list all the songs that stuck out for me but I actually really enjoyed them all. There were a few 'filler' songs (Walk Away and Missing You) and some I didn't feel much for (Drama Queen and Amanda) but overall it's yet another GD album I can listen to the whole way through without skipping. Really, the only song out of the whole trilogy I find myself skipping is 'Wild One' from Dos *hides* I really like Brutal Love; I get an REM vibe from it, and also reminds me a bit of Before The Lobotomy. Sex Drugs and Violence is reminiscent of the Ramones, and I love Billie's voice in Little Boy Named Train; it's all cute and whiney and bratty Dirty Rotten Bastards is amazing, so fucking catchy. I've been singing 'YEAHHHHHHH, YEAHHHHHH' all day! Love the guitar harmonies in 99 Revolutions and I adore The Forgotten, the strings are great. I think it might be my favourite album from the trilogy but it's hard to say as all three albums are so different.
OneSongInFrench Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I can think of so many other artists that can write songs that are ten times better than anything Billie could dream of writing. Let me know when they go multi-platinum, win grammys, go on Broadway, then become a soon-to-be released film. I'm not trying to be a dick, but people need to stop saying A or B, you like the songs, you don't like it. Nothing else really matters. No one cares who knows more about music theory, or who writes better poetic lyrics. I don't listen to Green Day to compare them to anyone else. It's because I enjoy what they can do for themselves, and that's it. Record fucking rocks. Close Thread. Lmao. No seriously personally I'm in love with it. Every track. After DOS! (Which I can only listen to two songs off of it...) this is great to hear. I'm a completely floored listener.
HeinekenFuckThatShit Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I love all 3 albums, but Tre is the best of the trilogy for me, and it's not even close. I enjoyed Brutal Love, X-Kid and Dirty Rotten Bastards more than any of the songs on the other 2, and I love Walk Away more with every listen.
teh_dude_guy_9 Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 they could've just taken all the best songs and just made one album, it would have been better that way, the 3 album thing would have been great if all the songs on it were good
Cameron. Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Can people please stop talking like they're some kind of experts? Get over yourselves, have your own opinions but don't argue against others opinions then, cause this is all about personal opinions none of us are experts and actually no one can tell what's actually the best songwriter because it's all about taste, even if it's not allways the most advanced/poethic lyrics it can still be really good. "Don't argue with others opinion" yet you're telling those with an opinion to "get over yourselves." You're doing exactly what you're not telling us not to do. Nice contradiction.
! Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I like that song that billie sings I thought I was the only one that felt that way!
Comic Sans Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 OK stands for "oll korrect" Actually no one knows exactly what the fuck does ok stand for , there are a lot of theories about it (Italian Wikipedia lists 12 of them)
DeJennsitized Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I thought OK was just a lazy way of spelling 'okay'
Cameron. Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Let me know when they go multi-platinum, win grammys, go on Broadway, then become a soon-to-be released film. I'm not trying to be a dick, but people need to stop saying A or B, you like the songs, you don't like it. Nothing else really matters. No one cares who knows more about music theory, or who writes better poetic lyrics. I don't listen to Green Day to compare them to anyone else. It's because I enjoy what they can do for themselves, and that's it. Typical fanboy defense mechanism, nice. Despite the fact that I do love Green Day, success doesn't equate to the product actually being good. With that kind of mindset, you must be saying Lil' Wayne and One Direction are better than those who sold less records than them, right?
Comic Sans Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I thought OK was just a lazy way of spelling 'okay' It is, but no one knows exactly from where "okay" comes from.
Jimmy the Kid Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Alright, since you want to be technical to make yourself look smarter, no Frank Ocean is not the R&B you're thinking of, he's classified in subgenre of it known as contemporary R&B which originates from the 80's, But he incorporates a lot of indie rock themes to make himself standout from the pack He doesn't sound even remotely close to Kanye West, that comparison obviously shows you have no real knowledge of hip-hop and R&B. They are completely different. And please, don't assume I'm comparing, I'm not. All I stated was that channel ORANGE was better than Uno, Dos, and Tre and that was it. I didn't say they shared any similarities, because they don't. http://rapgenius.com...pyramids-lyrics That song depicts Frank's lyrical prowess perfectly. He's a great storyteller. And really, you can't put Dookie up under the microscope for best lyrics ever because it's about teenage angst, drugs, and masturbation. It's catchy, raw, and you could relate to it. That's what made it so great, not the jaw dropping lyrics. Billie doesn't have phenomenal lyrical ability, in my opinion. He definitely was improving with each album released, 21CB has some of the best Green Day lyrics ever, but after Uno was released it DROPPED significantly. He CAN write good lyrics he's just not trying. I can think of so many other artists that can write songs that are ten times better than anything Billie could dream of writing. Make myself look smarter? No, simply I can say I have a much more diverse musical knowledge. I listened to two random songs by that guy, and he sounds like an improved version of Kanye West minus the autotune and the stupid lyrics. And I knew the guy before from some other not so Kanye themes. Beatles didn't write better lyrics than other bands at the time, but they were regarded as the better band (not that I concur). You cited Indie as one of his influences, and there you have it, Indie is generally a pseudo genre of kids that want to show they can play pseudo jazzy and bluesy scales with even more pseudo deep lyrics. Of course there is the occasional good band, but really is to rock what metalcore is to metal and 50 cent based artists to Hip Hop. Real lyrics, i won't put the songs as most of you guys wouldn't stand them: Cradle of Filth - Bathory Aria Cradle of Filth - Funeral in Carpathia Tool - 10 000 days Now stop comparing Real artists with a guy that shadowrites for Justin Bieber please. Typical fanboy defense mechanism, nice. Despite the fact that I do love Green Day, success doesn't equate to the product actually being good. With that kind of mindset, you must be saying Lil' Wayne and One Direction are better than those who sold less records than them, right? With this I have to agree with you. Album sales don't determine one's quality. Gangman Style would be the best song ever!
Clayish Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Make myself look smarter? No, simply I can say I have a much more diverse musical knowledge. I listened to two random songs by that guy, and he sounds like an improved version of Kanye West minus the autotune and the stupid lyrics. And I knew the guy before from some other not so Kanye themes. Beatles didn't write better lyrics than other bands at the time, but they were regarded as the better band (not that I concur). You cited Indie as one of his influences, and there you have it, Indie is generally a pseudo genre of kids that want to show they can play pseudo jazzy and bluesy scales with even more pseudo deep lyrics. Of course there is the occasional good band, but really is to rock what metalcore is to metal and 50 cent based artists to Hip Hop. Real lyrics, i won't put the songs as most of you guys wouldn't stand them: Cradle of Filth - Bathory Aria Cradle of Filth - Funeral in Carpathia Tool - 10 000 days Now stop comparing Real artists with a guy that shadowrites for Justin Bieber please. Stop posting. Your ignorance is too much
DeJennsitized Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 It is, but no one knows exactly from where "okay" comes from. Ah right. I never really thought about the origins, just accepted it as a word
Comic Sans Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 Very long and unquotable Cameron's Trè review I don't agree with you, but I'm going to say just 3 things: 1. No one here is defending every thing they do. 2. I gave you a like just for writing so long 3. An advice: (please note: not a reproach, just an advice) if you didn't enjoyed Trè, don't say it around, these guys can lynch you Just say "Yeah! It was amazing! And then move to Jamaica
Travis Posted December 5, 2012 Posted December 5, 2012 I've done so good holding out so far. I'm thinking I may spoil one song for myself for such good behavior Any suggestions? Brutal Love or Dirty Rotten Bastards or any of the other songs off the album ha!
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