New release date for Tre?

[TheJedi]

I'm gonna get crucified for saying this but honestly uno didn't do good, LYG was a semi hit oh love and kill the dj did okay and stray heart is bombing considering there's no promo for it and I think they're cutting their losses, I don't think the tour would get cancelled but I doubt It would've bombed this bad if they had a good promo and certain singers controlled themselves a little bit more

Billie is a fucking human. All humans gets problems at times. We shouldnt blame him for anything

[TaylorKlinke]

Radio music sucks nowadays, and it sucks even more that Billie and the guys can't be out on the road right now doing promo and stuff....but at the end of the day, who cares about the #'s....as long as the real fans support them....it should be fine. As long as the support is there, our boys will be too....if the release of Tre is moved up a month we shouldn't go about speculating about it until we know the real reason. As for the tour, yeah I'm going to be bummed if it's postponed too.....I was planning on going to Omaha but I got a gut feeling it will be cancelled(postponed)...but I'd rather Billie be alive. Green Day doesn't like to disappoint, and they won't...they're just going to come out stronger once they're back to 100%.

[Cob]

Radio music sucks nowadays, and it sucks even more that Billie and the guys can't be out on the road right now doing promo and stuff....but at the end of the day, who cares about the #'s....as long as the real fans support them....it should be fine. As long as the support is there, our boys will be too....if the release of Tre is moved up a month we shouldn't go about speculating about it until we know the real reason. As for the tour, yeah I'm going to be bummed if it's postponed too.....I was planning on going to Omaha but I got a gut feeling it will be cancelled(postponed)...but I'd rather Billie be alive. Green Day doesn't like to disappoint, and they won't...they're just going to come out stronger once they're back to 100%.

I have tickets to see them in Santa Cruz on December 4th, so I really hope the tour doesn't get canceled or postponed. But I'm on the other side of the fence here, I have a feeling they'll be back soon enough and they won't have to alter their tour in anyway. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but the signs are there...at least to me.

[farley drexel hatcher]

Jesus Uno didn't do that bad, you're a negative bunch aren't you? Acting like the band is on its last legs. This has probably been on the cards since billie was first checked into rehab, I don't know why people are so surprised.

[Awesompawsome]

Billie is a fucking human. All humans gets problems at times. We shouldnt blame him for anything

I'm not I'm saying that was a cause, if you don't think that had a impact then you're just stupid, and I'm just human yet why have I never done drugs or smoked and very rarely drink alcohol. Idk what billies been through but he's just human isn't a excuse and there's a lot of people in worse spots then he is

[Sarahnade]

I'm just human yet why have I never done drugs or smoked and very rarely drink alcohol. Idk what billies been through but he's just human isn't a excuse and there's a lot of people in worse spots then he is

I actually can't deal with this kind of ignorance.

[Awesompawsome]

I have tickets to see them in Santa Cruz on December 4th, so I really hope the tour doesn't get canceled or postponed. But I'm on the other side of the fence here, I have a feeling they'll be back soon enough and they won't have to alter their tour in anyway. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but the signs are there...at least to me.

It's not gonna get cancelled, I don't think Warner really cares how billie is doing and the amount of money people would lose wouldn't be worth it, if a tour gets cancelled serious shit is going down

[alecandstuff]

I'm not I'm saying that was a cause, if you don't think that had a impact then you're just stupid, and I'm just human yet why have I never done drugs or smoked and very rarely drink alcohol. Idk what billies been through but he's just human isn't a excuse and there's a lot of people in worse spots then he is

You've nailed it right there without even trying. Yeah, you're right we're all different, and as such none of us would really and truly know how one another feels unless we were in their shoes. Regardless, something like this shouldn't keep you from at least showing a little sympathy for him. Honestly, I can commend him for being as stable as he has been for his entire 20+ year career.

[Awesompawsome]

I actually can't deal with this kind of ignorance.

I'm just fed up with this pity party and he's just human, am I the only one that thinks that there are people out there with bigger problems of this type that aren't getting pity parties, and that he brought this upon himself, yes he has a addiction but a lot of people control addictions, it is his fault that he's in rehab to some extent

You've nailed it right there without even trying. Yeah, you're right we're all different, and as such none of us would really and truly know how one another feels unless we were in their shoes. Regardless, something like this shouldn't keep you from at least showing a little sympathy for him. Honestly, I can commend him for being as stable as he has been for his entire 20+ year career.

I do feel sympathy but the people who are calling me ignorant for thinking he brought this upon himself are what's bringing out my bad side

[WhiteTim]

I think probally was the way you put it

But there alao fanboys (not saying anyone in this thread is this) bit ive seen post on fb and twitter blaming others for what may be Billies problems "iheart got gim wasted" "Warner made him into an addict they forced him to drink" (actual quotes) im like lets give him whatever space he needs to relax/get better

[Sarahnade]

I'm just fed up with this pity party and he's just human, am I the only one that thinks that there are people out there with bigger problems of this type that aren't getting pity parties, and that he brought this upon himself, yes he has a addiction but a lot of people control addictions, it is his fault that he's in rehab to some extent

As far as I'm concerned, there isn't any sort of pity party. The people that are showing concern are doing so because they're a part of this fan base. Naturally when you idolize someone you become concerned when something like this happens. Saying that someone can control an addiction is like telling someone that they can control their anxiety or depression. It's easier said than done. If you think about the lifestyle that goes along with being in a band, it's undoubtedly going to be more difficult to refrain from whatever it is that Billie is struggling with. Saying that it is his fault that he is in rehab is an inaccurate statement. He's being responsible and getting help and you can't take that for granted.

[Slave To The Network]

Maybe we shouldn't associate this speculative early release with Billie at all. Doing that just seems to be causing a lot of problems among us and it may not even be relevant to talk about at this point. At least, not until we get official new about this. But honestly, things change and it may not be related to Billie's rehab at all. We can't know anything right now.

[Awesompawsome]

As far as I'm concerned, there isn't any sort of pity party. The people that are showing concern are doing so because they're a part of this fan base. Naturally when you idolize someone you become concerned when something like this happens. Saying that someone can control an addiction is like telling someone that they can control their anxiety or depression. It's easier said than done. If you think about the lifestyle that goes along with being in a band, it's undoubtedly going to be more difficult to refrain from whatever it is that Billie is struggling with. Saying that it is his fault that he is in rehab is an inaccurate statement. He's being responsible and getting help and you can't take that for granted.

I respect him for getting help, at this point the only thing that could kill my respect for him is if he was on drugs not drunk I think doing drugs once at all any time is a bad decision whether he has a addiction or not but I'm gonna stop now before I get carried away

[TheJedi]

I'm not I'm saying that was a cause, if you don't think that had a impact then you're just stupid, and I'm just human yet why have I never done drugs or smoked and very rarely drink alcohol. Idk what billies been through but he's just human isn't a excuse and there's a lot of people in worse spots then he is

Im sorry but this might be one of the most stupid things ive ever read

[Slave To The Network]

I respect him for getting help, at this point the only thing that could kill my respect for him is if he was on drugs not drunk I think doing drugs once at all any time is a bad decision whether he has a addiction or not but I'm gonna stop now before I get carried away

Just because it's legal doesn't mean that it's not a drug. Alcohol is one of the most dangerous drugs there are and probably kills more people than the majority of illegal drugs. Any substance that alters brain chemistry so dramatically can be considered a drug and alcohol is no exception. It's a neurotoxin just like all the illegal substances.

But regardless, I like the point that you make. The important thing here is that he is being intelligent and responsible about this by taking action and getting the help he needs to resolve the problem.

[Kill_the_Kia]

I hope that this news isnt true. There is too little

time between a cd and the other

[Roel Meuwissen]

dutch webstore bol.com also says december 7th

[tdlyon]

I respect him for getting help, at this point the only thing that could kill my respect for him is if he was on drugs not drunk I think doing drugs once at all any time is a bad decision whether he has a addiction or not but I'm gonna stop now before I get carried away

I hate to break this to you, but Billie's done TONS of drugs over the years. Meth, speed, cocaine, etc. Of course, that's not the case here, but he's really not the angel you think he is.

[Sixtrix]

I hate to break this to you, but Billie's done TONS of drugs over the years. Meth, speed, cocaine, etc. Of course, that's not the case here, but he's really not the angel you think he is.

That's not the point. Why does it have to matter that someone has always been a good boy or has made some mistakes through its life?

I have never used drugs and I doubt I ever will, but I do not mind to support those who do have to suffer those problems. Who are we to judge about Billie's personal problems when we only know this much about his personal life? Besides that, their dedication to the band and towards their fans has always been huge and that comes straight from their heart. I don't see why we should turn our back to him only because it is his responsibility and he messed up.

If you were in his situation, would you want everyone to turn their back to you when you needed their help or support the most? Because at that point it's not important how you got there but how the fuck to get out if it, and you can't do that alone.

[tvrman]

What's been happening while I have been asleep ? You've all gone either nuts or paranoid. I thought this was perfectly clear after the first page. Stop getting your knickers in a twist over a typo or (as it now seems increasingly possible) a new release date.

All those 'not really confirmed' 'not on the official site' posts. Good grief, just be happy someone spots something and wants to share it with you all - he quoted a source FFS !

I have a feeling this isn't for good reasons

Matt: I blame you for starting the paranoia, your post was the first negative one - behave yourself !

So let us recap page 1 of the thread:

The new date of the 7th December: Tre's 40th birthday is the 9th, really sad, judging by the posts, most of you don't even seem to realize it and I gave a hint at the start. Commercially; Twilight and Christmas sales - the amount of % revenue sales at Christmas is vastly more than the rest of the year which is why January is always a quiet month to release anything in the consumer marketplace. Most ship dates are updated on mondays so it will take time to filter through. (btw Amazon is the slowest place to update official ship dates).

Surely most of the promotion is for the Trilogy rather than each album individually, after all Billie said the Trilogy counts as one album to Warner, so iDOS! is not really squeezed because IT IS A TRILOGY. (fwiw, as it was all in the can ages ago, I thought a month between each album would have been enough). Then all the stuff about Billie's rehab; what has that got to do with the release date ? Why suddenly all the negative vibes ? Be positive in life and cross each bridge if and when it arrives. Uno, Dos, Tre - que sera sera. So, fingers crossed, it looks like we may have Tre (and hence the whole trilogy) before christmas, well I say that would be worth a big.....

[Josh100_3]

To fans it's a wish that came true. To Warner and (maybe) the band, it's a shitstorm waiting for fail (possibly.) Music wise, it's an amazing concept. PR, money, whatever it is that's professional-wise, it's hell. (probably.)

Yeah I understand that and it's very true but...

I'm personally a Green Day fan, not a fucking warner music fan. Maybe it's because i'm a struggling musician but I really couldn't give two shits about major labels

[gerardsangel4977]

Not sure. But the trilogy counts as only one

I think I remember reading in Alt. Press that, if the Trilogy had been counted as separate releases, it would have fulfilled their contract.

Does this mean I no longer have to hide my feelings about the trilogy? I think the whole trilogy was a shitty idea. Putting out 3 albums is not good at all, and they should've only made one album. There. I said it. I'm not ungrateful, nor do I not like the songs, but everything has gone downhill since the release of Uno. Green Day's future albums will have limited creativity because if Warner keeps Green Day, they will be on a tight leash. Warner screwed up, is unable to promote the albums. But the good news is they might put out a greatest hits or bside comp. to make up for any loss of profit or goals that weren't met. Don't argue with me, I have no idea what I'm saying and I don't know why I keep typing. What the fuck am I saying?

LOL *If* Warner keeps Green Day? Seriously?

That's not the point. Why does it have to matter that someone has always been a good boy or has made some mistakes through its life?

I have never used drugs and I doubt I ever will, but I do not mind to support those who do have to suffer those problems. Who are we to judge about Billie's personal problems when we only know this much about his personal life? Besides that, their dedication to the band and towards their fans has always been huge and that comes straight from their heart. I don't see why we should turn our back to him only because it is his responsibility and he messed up.

If you were in his situation, would you want everyone to turn their back to you when you needed their help or support the most? Because at that point it's not important how you got there but how the fuck to get out if it, and you can't do that alone.

[favorite son 101]

I Haven't yet started savinh money to buy Tre! , if it's released Earlier , I might have some trouble

[Gregorovich]

I really think a lot of people are over-reacting to this. Worst-possible-case scenario? Warner shifts Tre forward for a potential sales boost and we get the album more than a month early. I don't know why everybody is assuming this move 'proves' Warner Bros thinking the trilogy was a bad idea and wants it over and done with a month early. Bands don't tend to give two shits about promotion anyway - most of the time, when they are promoting their own albums, they are acting on the label's behalf. Look at Sum 41 - their latest album has been, by and large, their most critically acclaimed. It has also been their worst selling. But guess what? The band don't care whatsoever. They write music exclusively for their fans - they actually partially funded the album themselves because the label cut them off before everything had been recorded. The band are happy because fans continue to listen to their music and see their shows. The fans are happy because the band continues to make amazing music and give great shows. Who cares if the label doesn't make as much money? That's their problem. Why is everybody concerned so much about sales? Does it make one iota of difference whether the band shift a million units or ten million units, as long as three of those units belong to us? Bands like Green Day don't write music for commercial purposes. That's the label's job. Bands like Green Day write music for the fans. And we are the fans. And guess what? We're getting three full-length albums, at least one of which is being moved forward. Followed by a gigantic world tour. You guys must be mad to complain.

[solongfromthestars]

This is obviously a conspiracy. We'll find out that the reason The Forgotten is on Twilight is because Billie is a vampire, and can't die, so people will stop worrying about his health. Green Day will split up though, and although Billie's dogs will try to replace him, they won't be ready for the tour which will be cancelled. Damn good marketing plan they have here.

That makes as much sense as some of the off-topic overreacting in here.