Jimmy the Kid Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Probably cause of the backing rhythm / prominent bass, haha. The bass has some notes in common with Mother Mary. What do you guys think of this? This is the first time I heard Stray Heart a while back, and at 0:42 someone in the crowd screams just as it drums into the chorus for the first time. Even though it was a completely seperate sound from the band, I thought it really added to that fast drum roll build up. In some ways, I wish there was something like that in the studio version, like a drawn out scream by Billie or something. Maybe I'm alone on this Don't get me wrong though, I can't fault the song, it's awesome I guess it was just Billie digging the song, but i'm with you. I miss the scream.
jacknovella Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I guess it was just Billie digging the song, but i'm with you. I miss the scream. Was it Billie? I thought it was someone in the crowd...still though, glad someone else appreciates it It's just timed so perfectly. Ooooh page own...I've never owned a page before...what do I say?...I'll just smile instead
Asa. Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 What do you guys think of this? This is the first time I heard Stray Heart a while back, and at 0:42 someone in the crowd screams just as it drums into the chorus for the first time. Even though it was a completely seperate sound from the band, I thought it really added to that fast drum roll build up. In some ways, I wish there was something like that in the studio version, like a drawn out scream by Billie or something. Maybe I'm alone on this Don't get me wrong though, I can't fault the song, it's awesome I listened to this version a lot in the past year or so, and I always thought the scream fit for that part!
Jimmy the Kid Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Was it Billie? I thought it was someone in the crowd...still though, glad someone else appreciates it It's just timed so perfectly. Ooooh page own...I've never owned a page before...what do I say?...I'll just smile instead I don't know for certain, but i guess do to it fitting so much and sounding like him... That is him. When I first heard the song I screamed in that part hoping the song did the same... Fail.
jacknovella Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I don't know for certain, but i guess do to it fitting so much and sounding like him... That is him. When I first heard the song I screamed in that part hoping the song did the same... Fail. Yeah I think you're right. I was hoping for it too, but I guess it just seems a bit empty there because we're used to the scream, once we get used to it not being there it will sound normal I suppose
emenius Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Another BBC Radio One premiere of a new Green Day song that they'll probably not playlist or ever play again....
tpopil Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Anyone know if/when Stray Heart will be on itunes?
Femme Gauche Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I never listened to any of these recordings from the early shows cause I suspected they would be on upcoming records, didn't know which so I thought I would wait in case it spoiled something. I also didn't want to hear a version that ended up getting changed, and feel strange about the different version xP.
Femme Gauche Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 It feels like I'm cheating on Stay The Night with this. New possible favourite! Although Billie always wears his heart on his sleeve in his music, I feel like I'm learning a hell of a lot more about him in this trilogy. Granted, the biggest revelation came from the iHeart outburst, but there's a simplicity about these songs which makes them a little more accessible than something like American Idiot - you don't have to dig deep to understand the inspiration. Listening to Oh Love and Stray Heart has got me wondering about his wandering eye. He's written about relationship troubles a million times over, but not in this way before (at least not off the top of my head). Does anyone else feel this way? That you're learning more about the band with every new song? Yeah definitely, it's a little strange.
farley drexel hatcher Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 It feels like I'm cheating on Stay The Night with this. New possible favourite! Although Billie always wears his heart on his sleeve in his music, I feel like I'm learning a hell of a lot more about him in this trilogy. Granted, the biggest revelation came from the iHeart outburst, but there's a simplicity about these songs which makes them a little more accessible than something like American Idiot - you don't have to dig deep to understand the inspiration. Listening to Oh Love and Stray Heart has got me wondering about his wandering eye. He's written about relationship troubles a million times over, but not in this way before (at least not off the top of my head). Does anyone else feel this way? That you're learning more about the band with every new song? Not really, because no one knows how personal the songs are, if at all really.
Fuzz Posted October 10, 2012 Author Posted October 10, 2012 It feels like I'm cheating on Stay The Night with this. New possible favourite! Although Billie always wears his heart on his sleeve in his music, I feel like I'm learning a hell of a lot more about him in this trilogy. Granted, the biggest revelation came from the iHeart outburst, but there's a simplicity about these songs which makes them a little more accessible than something like American Idiot - you don't have to dig deep to understand the inspiration. Listening to Oh Love and Stray Heart has got me wondering about his wandering eye. He's written about relationship troubles a million times over, but not in this way before (at least not off the top of my head). Does anyone else feel this way? That you're learning more about the band with every new song? The first thing I thought of when I heard Stray Heart was Church On Sunday.
Femme Gauche Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Isn't it? I mean, the idea is nothing new considering they're rock stars, but it still feels very... different. Yeah, exactly, that side has never really been on display at all.
gdpony Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 This song is on repeat when I take a bath, when I drive to work and when I drive back home! ... I love it so much
DannyDirnt Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 To be honest I find the lyrics a bit controversial. At first they say 'This stray heart went to another, can you recover baby?' and then it suddenly changes to 'oh you're the only one that I'm dreaming of' and follows like if he was telling a girl he loves her.
DannyDirnt Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I just took the whole song to be an apology to his wife. Like, you're the one I love, the one I need, etc. But still in the first lines he sayd the contrary, like if he was telling her that he loves her no longer
Hermione Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I just took the whole song to be an apology to his wife. Like, you're the one I love, the one I need, etc. Yeah but there's no way of knowing how much of it is real and how much is fiction. It could be inspired by a totally different time in his life, when he was with a different girlfriend or before they were properly together. Or it might be only very vaguely inspired by his real life, it could just come from a feeling he had at some point. Or it might not even be about him at all. I agree that's what the lyrics of the song are describing, but how much those lyrics reflect Billie's real life or how literally they reflect it is anyone's guess. He's clearly being "open" in that he's putting his thoughts and emotions into these songs but I don't think we can assume he's being open about his real life through them. Like Lorraine said none of us know how personal they are.
Hermione Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Oh of course, I actually deleted a bracket which said (or if it's not personal, then his "lover/partner") because I thought everyone kind of got the fact that there could be another possible explanation. Oh ok . In that case I agree with your song analysis!
Bastard of 1967 Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 It feels like I'm cheating on Stay The Night with this. New possible favourite! Although Billie always wears his heart on his sleeve in his music, I feel like I'm learning a hell of a lot more about him in this trilogy. Granted, the biggest revelation came from the iHeart outburst, but there's a simplicity about these songs which makes them a little more accessible than something like American Idiot - you don't have to dig deep to understand the inspiration. Listening to Oh Love and Stray Heart has got me wondering about his wandering eye. He's written about relationship troubles a million times over, but not in this way before (at least not off the top of my head). Does anyone else feel this way? That you're learning more about the band with every new song? I just took the whole song to be an apology to his wife. Like, you're the one I love, the one I need, etc. Interesting choice of the word "cheating" in your first post. Stray Heart indeed finds our narrator having been caught cheating, red-handed (and likely with the person who first grabbed his eye back in Troublemaker and Angel Blue). Remember that contextually, "Oh Love" has already told us that "Tonight my heart's on the loose", and that both "See You Tonight" and "Fuck Time" will further set this puppy up when iDos! begins. The opening verse leaves very little room for doubt: I lost my way oh baby, this stray heart Went to another Can you recover, baby Oh you're the only one that I'm dreaming of Your precious heart, was torn apart by me So we have him coming clean with his (presumably) wife and seemingly asking for her forgiveness. Yet there's still some real dysfunctionality in this relationship -- we see this in the chorus: Everything that I want, I want from you But I just can't have you Everything that I need, I need from you But I just can't have you His wife is freely giving him what he wants and needs; but even so he's flat out rejecting it. Reading these verses together, I get "You're exactly right for me but that's still not good enough." It's not literally "I just can't have you" -- you already have her, you jackass. The truth our narrator is running from is "I just don't want you". His wandering eye will continue to wander as the story goes on, and we'll watch him continue his self-destructive, downward spiral. This is coming from the pen of a man who's been through a hell of a lot in the 16+ years he and his wife have been together, and as a successful musician he's got to have had women literally trying to throw themselves at him. The challenges he's faced dealing with this while still trying to be a real-world husband and father are unlike anything I expect to ever see in my life, and yet there are elements of this storyline that he's written, and the songs Green Day has put together to tell it, that anyone who's ever questioned the course of their own life can identify with. We'll probably never know what in the album trilogy is autobiographical truth and what's just fiction that Billie Joe has extracted from it. But the message is crystal clear and the story is compelling, because wrapped up in it, we find pieces of ourselves.
solongfromthestars Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 I don't think Billie's lyrics can always be taken literally - maybe it's different with most of the trilogy, but his writing has often been quite metaphorical (like Kill the DJ isn't about killing DJs at all) and goes deeper than what it seems to mean. I interpret this song as more of a "I just can't have you because the love is forbidden", but that's just me personally. No way of really knowing what it means to Billie (or if it even relates to him at all) unless he says it himself.
Fuzz Posted October 10, 2012 Author Posted October 10, 2012 Just for the sake of discussion, the idea of cheating doesn't have to be with another person. It could be drugs, alcohol, or anything that takes your heart away from someone you love.
BlackBaboon Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 If we're interpreting it literally, as in a relationship in which the narrator cheated on his wife/girlfriend, then I think the person the narrator can't have would be said wife/girlfriend. This song to me comes across as an apology as in, 'I slipped up, I'm sorry and I know I've said this all before but this time I really mean it, you're the only one I need.' I get the sense that the wife/girlfriend character is wary of how sincere the apology is though. Just my opinion obviously.
angry_robot Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 EDIT: I love this sort of shit, it's like a literature lesson. Nobody's certain what it means but it's cool to see all the different slants on something and fun to combine ideas. It doesn't really amount to anything but I like it. I wish we studied Green Day lyrics on literature when I was at school
tomdsjames Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Another BBC Radio One premiere of a new Green Day song that they'll probably not playlist or ever play again.... That pisses me off as well, they go out of their way to get the exclusive then never play the song again. It's not been added to the playlist for this week anyway.
Overjoyyed Posted October 10, 2012 Posted October 10, 2012 Love this song it's so addicting can't stop listening to it! I feel like it is going to be a classic Green Day song. What do you guys think. But the interview was heart-wrenching hearing what Mike had to say.
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