Nele Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Well, after hearing the live version and later seeing it live I already knew that the song was epic. The studio version didn't change that.
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 This song makes me happy. I love the Ramones vibe that the faster pieces we've heard off of Uno seem to have. It's not the hard, screaming guitars I was hoping for deep down, but that type of record would've sounded too much like AI. It feels like a nod to what GD did back in the mid-90s, and even moreso a nod to the bands that influenced them while having more of a rock beat to it. I like it; I like it a lot.
.Holly Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 He only says fuck seven times, including the "SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!", and shit once, so it's not that bad really. whatever, I still think it sounds ott
Stefano Bras Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 So much better than the Live version, God this albums are gonna be epic.
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 He only says fuck seven times, including the "SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!", and shit once, so it's not that bad really. What does it say about the quality of music we've come to accept when, "he only says fuck seven times," is considered a legitimate argument for the song being relatively clean? No to knock GD or anything, but I can think of several of the greatest bands ever doing their thing back in the '60s, '70s and '80s, and going their entire discography without ever dropping an F-bomb on record. Food for thought, yo.
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Download link someone please! Negative Ghostrider, the pattern is full. (No download links allowed.)
TheGrouch33 Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I know this post won't be popular, but let me preface this by saying this is the best song from the new album(s) so far, but that's not exactly groundbreaking. The first thing I thought of when I heard this song was that it was a pussified version of Platypus. The generic "I'm angry/you suck" lyrics make me cringe slightly, but then I had to remind myself that the 2012 Green Day is a completely different and utterly warped version of the original band I fell in love with years and years ago. The frantic sneering recklessness of their earlier records has been replaced by hand-clappers and very basic rock and roll riffs. Not that that's altogether a bad thing, and I'm not bashing Green Day for changing their sound - bands change, and clearly GD has thrived off of their transition, but ever since American Idiot I don't think the songwriting has any particular ache, grudge, or legitimate spark. Sure, it makes me want to grab my guitar and play along, clap my hands and smile a bit, but I genuinely have no desire to lose myself to any of these songs. Is it a good song? Yes. Is it a great song? No. I like the simple and catchy chorus, I like Billie Joe's guitar solo, but otherwise it's just a snappy tune. sorry i cant disagree more! this is the best "fuck you" song Green Day has ever written , and I also think Green Day has always had cool and simple rock riffs like this one!. I really love platypus in that Nimrod....but this song is produced in a better way in my opinion. This is a GREAT song if you like Insomniac and Nimrod
Idiotic Tendency... Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Sounds exactly like the live version from red 7
Pieces of Truth Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 The "you're fucking with my fucking head now"/"always fuck with my fucking head now" part sounds even more weird in the studio version But anyway, this is so good.
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I know this post won't be popular, but let me preface this by saying this is the best song from the new album(s) so far, but that's not exactly groundbreaking. The first thing I thought of when I heard this song was that it was a pussified version of Platypus. The generic "I'm angry/you suck" lyrics make me cringe slightly, but then I had to remind myself that the 2012 Green Day is a completely different and utterly warped version of the original band I fell in love with years and years ago. The frantic sneering recklessness of their earlier records has been replaced by hand-clappers and very basic rock and roll riffs. Not that that's altogether a bad thing, and I'm not bashing Green Day for changing their sound - bands change, and clearly GD has thrived off of their transition, but ever since American Idiot I don't think the songwriting has any particular ache, grudge, or legitimate spark. Sure, it makes me want to grab my guitar and play along, clap my hands and smile a bit, but I genuinely have no desire to lose myself to any of these songs. Is it a good song? Yes. Is it a great song? No. I like the simple and catchy chorus, I like Billie Joe's guitar solo, but otherwise it's just a snappy tune. See, I think that's why it's so great. GD tried to (and succeeded) write a grand rock album with incredibly deep lyrics and a deep meaning. They tried again (and failed) to do the same thing with 21CB, which I believe will someday be remembered as GD's worst record, their "Echoes, Silence, Patience & Grace", "Hot Space" or "The Final Cut". Instead of continuing on with the deep, cutting lyrics and edge-pushing thematic elements, they made the decision to get back to the fun, punk-poppy material that made them famous. Does it sound exactly the same as 10/39, Kerplunk or Dookie? No, but that's a good thing. If it did, half the people here would be complaining that all GD did was copy their classic material, and the other half would still be drooling over anything GD did, good, bad or terrible, and cussing out anyone who disliked the new material (but no one would use "fuck" more than seven times in any post ). I think it's telling that GD had strayed away a bit from the heavy AI material that basically introduced a new legion of fans to their work, and while this still has a pop-punk sound to it, the Ramones-ish beat, catchy lyrics and overall bounciness of it make it feel more punk than pop, and that's a good thing in my book.
sauser Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Man, if you want to hear some better and more sentimental lyric tunes go and play 21 Guns, Time of Your Life or even Holiday for political content. But THIS ONE is only a BIG FUCK YOU to everyone and for play it LIVE, to dance it and for enjoy it on a gig. I think is an awesome song.
Webb_2011 Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I love the direction Green Day is heading. Yes, I absolutely loved American Idiot (shocker I know) and I really did like 21st Century Breakdown. I loved the big rock sound that they had going and I was a little worried when they said they weren't necessarily going for that with these albums. My worry has been laid to rest as these new songs are freaking ridiculous! I love how fun they are and I can't wait to hear them live on the next tour. It's also really awesome to see them have fun on stage as sometimes you don't see that with other bands. I think these songs are going to be 10X as fun live as they are going to be on the albums!
casey1251 Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Fudgesicles that was AWESOME!! Loved every aspect of that tune!! brums, bass, vocals, guitar, energy!!!!!
Trina Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 On the cover art, Billie Joe's t-shirt that's hanging down out of his jacket kinda looks like bikini bottoms or women's underwear. Maybe it is. Who knows?
Idiotic Tendency... Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I love the direction Green Day is heading. Yes, I absolutely loved American Idiot (shocker I know) and I really did like 21st Century Breakdown. I loved the big rock sound that they had going and I was a little worried when they said they weren't necessarily going for that with these albums. My worry has been laid to rest as these new songs are freaking ridiculous! I love how fun they are and I can't wait to hear them live on the next tour. It's also really awesome to see them have fun on stage as sometimes you don't see that with other bands. I think these songs are going to be 10X as fun live as they are going to be on the albums! How is loving American Idiot a shocker? Loads love it and most of the community say it's their favorite Green Day record.
petros Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 The "you're fucking with my fucking head now"/"always fuck with my fucking head now" part sounds even more weird in the studio version But anyway, this is so good. All I hear is "You butt fucking with my head now/always butt fucking with my head now" How is loving American Idiot a shocker? Loads love it and most of the community say it's their favorite Green Day record. He should have putted [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] for you
Idiotic Tendency... Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 All I hear is "You butt fucking with my head now/always butt fucking with my head now" Nice ring to it.
Micky Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 It's pure energy. I can't wait to be in the middle of the crowd and hear it live.
Idiotic Tendency... Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 it sounds so sloppy In what way? Sounds exactly like the Red 7 version apart from a few things
Vic_Rattlehead Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 What does it say about the quality of music we've come to accept when, "he only says fuck seven times," is considered a legitimate argument for the song being relatively clean? No to knock GD or anything, but I can think of several of the greatest bands ever doing their thing back in the '60s, '70s and '80s, and going their entire discography without ever dropping an F-bomb on record. Food for thought, yo. I was just saying that in response to people complaining it had "too much swearing". I was putting it into perspective, as I've definitely heard worse, even from other Green Day songs.
Sweet Armataged Chump Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 In what way? Sounds exactly like the Red 7 version apart from a few things really? I think it sounds a lot different. I like the live one better. The solo here is all over the place. It just all sounds sloppy to me. It still a good song
Bastard of 1967 Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I've never said I've hated these songs at all. I'm a self-admitted Green Day fanboy, and the new songs do in fact rock. However because I'm an old school fool I don't think the new stuff will ever hold a candle to the GD albums of my youth that shaped me. I think we all can relate to that. I understand. Let me toss out some food for thought now that y'all have gotten me thinking about it again.... Some of us got hooked on Green Day in the 39/Smooth era, some during Dookie, some during Warning, some (like myself) during AI/21stCB. Relatively speaking, I think this means that "the Green Day albums of my <blank> that shaped me" means something completely different for each and every one of us. For me, some songs on the trilogy will answer the question "gee, I wonder what Green Day would sound like if they re-recorded 39/Smooth and Kerplunk with modern equipment" (I think Let Yourself Go is one of those, by the way)...others will pull musical elements and styles from elsewhere in the band's back catalog (including The Network and FBHT), and others (like Kill the DJ and Nightlife) will explore completely new territory. Two things seem clear to me: First - After almost 25 years the band may have finally opened a generation gap in their fanbase. It had to happen sometime. All of us have been tweens and teens; most of us have been twentysomethings -- and from 39/Smooth all the way up through American Idiot, there was plenty of music in Green Day's catalog that spoke to all of those experiences, whatever those experiences might have been for each one of us individually. Things started to change at 21stCB, where Billie's songwriting focused on what's wrong with the present and what kind of a future it means your kids will have. The younger you get from late 30s, the more likely it is that those issues aren't on your own scope yet and the more likely it is that you'll miss the very complex points Billie was weaving into that album. Now today, in the trilogy, Green Day is focusing primarily about love, lust, relationships, and girls again, but this time from the perspective of early middle-aged men (my generation - GULP!) rather than as late teen/early twentysomethings. They're reconsidering some of the same questions they asked in their early albums, but this time instead of getting the snarky "where's my fucking nerve" of "At The Library" -- that just about anybody who's ever lived can relate to -- we get the contemplative "oh shit, what am I about to do!?" inner turmoil of "Oh Love" that you can really appreciate only after you've crossed over into your middle-aged bulge years. To summarize: there's less in Green Day's newest material that younger fans can easily identify with than there is in their back catalog now. And second - Setting that gap aside, the diversity of musical and lyrical styles we're getting on this trilogy is in and of itself epic. It's the most variety in a single collection we've seen from the band since Nimrod and Warning, and that the band's going for broke on this in a time where the mainstream accepts nothing but auto-tuned pop tarts set to a beat is really something special. Decent lyrics, good production, Broadway-honed vocals, a prominent bass line, and a powerful, catchy guitar riff is pretty damn good when you can't even find that anywhere else.
Guest Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I was just saying that in response to people complaining it had "too much swearing". I was putting it into perspective, as I've definitely heard worse, even from other Green Day songs. Seven F-bombs, in fairness, is a lot of swearing. Not nearly as bad as that Limp Bizkit song from when I was in high school (how the fuck did I ever like those no-talent assclowns?!) where Fred Durst openly bragged in the lyrics about saying "fuck" 50 times or something, but seven F-bombs is a lot of swearing. I'm having a hard time thinking off the top of my head of any song on AI or 21CB that used that many fucks at once, but I'm sure someone who has every fucking fuck on AI and 21CB committed to memory will swoop in and list several. really? I think it sounds a lot different. I like the live one better. The solo here is all over the place. It just all sounds sloppy to me. It still a good song I think that's the point. Go back and listen to some of the Ramones' classic work. Their guitar solos were frequently all over the place. Hell, go back and listen to some Chuck Berry--LYG's solo could easily have been off of one his more "freestyle" songs. Up-tempo rock from the late 60's frequently had guitar solos that basically just cut loose and went in all kinds of directions. Bob Seger's music really did this well. Listen to the Live Bullet version of "Katmandu" sometime. The solo's all over the place, but all kinds of fun too.
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