Mandy_PunkRock Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I love 99 revolutions! Can't wait for hear the full studio version song! Maybe I shall watch the movie, but unfortunately in my country, Spain, "The campaign" release date is in 5th October. p.s: The quality of the video is great!
WestboundSign! Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I love 99 revolutions! Can't wait for hear the full studio version song! Maybe I shall watch the movie, but unfortunately in my country, Spain, "The campaign" release date is in 5th October. It's somewhen around that time in Germany as well.. but it's still earlier than the iTré! release so I'm going to watch it. Plus I loved the trailer
Annie, get your gun Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Cool! Thanks for recorded it! But I prefer not to listen this song yet
Heather. Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I saw some complaints in the GDA comments about this being too generic punk pop Green Day---yep, that's why I love it. It could have been on Warning and that's my favorite album. It's upbeat, yet critical. Gets me bouncy and I like it. I got - - - - - - - in the air, and a rumble in the streets, a going-out-of-business sale and a race to bankruptcy, it's not one to ninety-nine, it's ninety-nine to one, a common cause and a call to arms going out (to? with? ) our daughters and our sons Nicely done. I think the last line is "For the health/wealth of our daughters and our sons"... normally I'd say health, but you never know given the topic of the song and I can't figure it out Think it's health though. ETA: And yeah, listening to Surrender by Cheap Trick again... I just hope those guys don't listen to this and pull a Noel Gallagher (cuz this time, they'd actually have a case )
perfectpitchrob Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 It does sound like it could have been on warning. Despite being political like the previous two albums were, 99 is more stripped down and has that folk/punk vibe to it that warning had. Pretty epic if you ask me!
angry_robot Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 But...he could have also decided to take the most the unique songs that were going to be on each album and just make one album. You are absolutely right but still we haven't heard albums. So it's hard to judge. When we first heard news about trilogy there were also many thoughts that it's just way to get rid of old and useless song material. By now we've heard almost all Uno and correct me if I'm wrong, there weren't really many complains about song similarity. As for 99 revolutions, wich is our topic here, we haven't heard almost anything from Tre, so... I want to be optimistic on this subject. But again yes, there're things to worry about.
Malleus Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 But...he could have also decided to take the most the unique songs that were going to be on each album and just make one album. I'm not going to cut them some slack for reusing melodies just because they wrote a shit load of songs, they could have just as easily done what I said above and not have songs that sounded similar to past ones. I don't think that's a very smart thing to do, especially for somebody so creative. Why just pick the most unique of the bunch and then leave all the other perfectly good songs collect dust? Also the songs don't sound similar enough that would warrant any complaints imo - they have similarities but they're all different enough that they each have an individual feel and that's what I care about the most.
1039SweetChildren Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Green Day have a specific sound that make them who they are... and that's why we love them. Sure, some of their songs are bound to share elements with one another, but I don't think any of them are carbon copies. Just enjoy each song in their own right.
WrongWayToSalvation Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I don't think that's a very smart thing to do, especially for somebody so creative. Why just pick the most unique of the bunch and then leave all the other perfectly good songs collect dust? Also the songs don't sound similar enough that would warrant any complaints imo - they have similarities but they're all different enough that they each have an individual feel and that's what I care about the most. That's not a smart thing to do? They could have had a 18-20 song track list, then release 5 singles from the album and use the rest of the songs as B-sides and attach 3-4 on each single. This way, the album could have probably been the strongest album of their career. Full of nothing but very strong and experimental songs that don't sound similar to past work, so you wouldn't have that "This song always reminds me of____". And yeah some of them do warrant complaints. Whenever you listen to a song and think "Wow, that sounds just like____" then that's just laziness on the band's part. To reuse old stuff. It's like some of you won't come to terms with that. It's LAZY. Tons of other bands create melodies that at the very least don't sound like their own songs. I'm just trying to be honest. Yes, I am criticizing Green Day. Why? Because I think I have a good reason to do so. If they get criticized for this by critics and fans and even non-fans, then they deserve it. You are absolutely right but still we haven't heard albums. So it's hard to judge. When we first heard news about trilogy there were also many thoughts that it's just way to get rid of old and useless song material. By now we've heard almost all Uno and correct me if I'm wrong, there weren't really many complains about song similarity. As for 99 revolutions, wich is our topic here, we haven't heard almost anything from Tre, so... I want to be optimistic on this subject. But again yes, there're things to worry about. Sweet 16 sounds like Uptight and Carpe Diem sounds like Suffocate and 21st CB (A battle cry/Your long lost son). Nuclear Family sounds like Safe European Home. That's a 4th of !UNO! right there. And who knows, maybe the rest of the songs on !UNO! sound similar to past songs as well. I'm trying to be optimistic as well, but if these 3 albums are just "pretty good" then I'll feel like this was pointless. Just do one amazing album that blows my mind.
Malleus Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 That's not a smart thing to do? They could have had a 18-20 song track list, then release 5 singles from the album and use the rest of the songs as B-sides and attach 3-4 on each single. This way, the album could have probably been the strongest album of their career. Full of nothing but very strong and experimental songs that don't sound similar to past work, so you wouldn't have that "This song always reminds me of____". And yeah some of them do warrant complaints. Whenever you listen to a song and think "Wow, that sounds just like____" then that's just laziness on the band's part. To reuse old stuff. It's like some of you won't come to terms with that. It's LAZY. Tons of other bands create melodies that at the very least don't sound like their own songs. I'm just trying to be honest. Yes, I am criticizing Green Day. Why? Because I think I have a good reason to do so. If they get criticized for this by critics and fans and even non-fans, then they deserve it. I don't care if people criticize Green Day. Let me just say that. But I still don't think it's a smart thing to do. It would be a mish mash of all different styles and themes and people would complain that's it too long, sounds too different etc etc. Plus 5 singles with 3-4 b-sides is too many b-sides imo, b-sides are b-sides for a reason. These songs are obviously higher quality than b-sides because similarity doesn't equal lesser quality, despite being "lazy." What songs sound just like other songs? Not vaguely but carbon copies like you're suggesting. One, for the first intro. 99 Revolution kinda sounds like Too Much Too Soon in the beginning, I honestly can't see the huge resemblance. I've never heard Sweet 16 so I can't judge. Carpe Diem sort of sounds like Suffocate in parts but it's not a big deal at all because the song is pretty fucking different from it. Also that 21st Century thing is like one line, that hardly justifies "x sounds JUST like y." The little intro to Nuclear Family sounds vaguely like Safe European Home (which is not all that original or complex anyway...also not a Green Day song), but that's it, the rest of the song is different. I honestly don't think this is as big of a deal as you seem to be making it out to be. It's not like they're intentionally doing this. The only thing I'd call lazy is Let Yourself Go.
21stcenturyidiot Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Gotta be honest, I think people are grasping at straws saying the songs sound like old ones. Me and my friends listened to Maria/LYG carpe diem suffocate and can't really hear a similarity tbh
NGDP Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I don't care if people criticize Green Day. Let me just say that. But I still don't think it's a smart thing to do. It would be a mish mash of all different styles and themes and people would complain that's it too long, sounds too different etc etc. Plus 5 singles with 3-4 b-sides is too many b-sides imo, b-sides are b-sides for a reason. These songs are obviously higher quality than b-sides because similarity doesn't equal lesser quality, despite being "lazy." What songs sound just like other songs? Not vaguely but carbon copies like you're suggesting. One, for the first intro. 99 Revolution kinda sounds like Too Much Too Soon in the beginning, I honestly can't see the huge resemblance. I've never heard Sweet 16 so I can't judge. Carpe Diem sort of sounds like Suffocate in parts but it's not a big deal at all because the song is pretty fucking different from it. Also that 21st Century thing is like one line, that hardly justifies "x sounds JUST like y." The little intro to Nuclear Family sounds vaguely like Safe European Home (which is not all that original or complex anyway...also not a Green Day song), but that's it, the rest of the song is different. I honestly don't think this is as big of a deal as you seem to be making it out to be. It's not like they're intentionally doing this. The only thing I'd call lazy is Let Yourself Go. Carpe Diem sounds EXACTLY like Suffocate before the chorus and you know it, come on. Suffocate is also a far better song but that's besides the point. The idea of Green Day reusing melodies isn't that old either, The Static Age's chorus is nearly identical to Church On Sunday's, and the verse of Modern World in American Eulogy is basically identical to another one of their songs. (I can't for the life of me remember which one though) I don't think similar melodies are going to be abundant on the trilogies though, what I'm worried about is uncreative lyrics, singing and melodies. I've only heard Stray Heart, the old soundcheck Stay The Night, Oh Love, Let Yourself Go, Carpe Diem and Amy. I think Stray Heart and Let Yourself Go are amazing, Carpe Diem is okay at best and amy and oh love are decent. Despite what I think about each of them, none of the lyrics in these new songs are all that good, which annoys me because Billie Joe's a great lyricist. There are a few select lines from Stray Heart and Let Yourself Go that I really like, but they are few and far between. Also apparently from the opinions of many of you a lot of the choruses are very lazy and repetitive which I am never usually a fan of but let it slide for Let Yourself Go. So someone, PLEASE tell me that Kill The Dj, Makeout Party and 8th Avenue Serenade prove me wrong!
Heather. Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 So someone, PLEASE tell me that Kill The Dj, Makeout Party and 8th Avenue Serenade prove me wrong! I think those songs will prove that wrong. Even though Kill the DJ has the kind of repetitive chorus that will drive you insane after a while, it's so melodically interesting and the verses seem to have better lyrics than a lot of what we've been hearing.
Ryan Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 That's not a smart thing to do? They could have had a 18-20 song track list, then release 5 singles from the album and use the rest of the songs as B-sides and attach 3-4 on each single. This way, the album could have probably been the strongest album of their career. Full of nothing but very strong and experimental songs that don't sound similar to past work, so you wouldn't have that "This song always reminds me of____". And yeah some of them do warrant complaints. Whenever you listen to a song and think "Wow, that sounds just like____" then that's just laziness on the band's part. To reuse old stuff. It's like some of you won't come to terms with that. It's LAZY. Tons of other bands create melodies that at the very least don't sound like their own songs. I'm just trying to be honest. Yes, I am criticizing Green Day. Why? Because I think I have a good reason to do so. If they get criticized for this by critics and fans and even non-fans, then they deserve it. Sweet 16 sounds like Uptight and Carpe Diem sounds like Suffocate and 21st CB (A battle cry/Your long lost son). Nuclear Family sounds like Safe European Home. That's a 4th of !UNO! right there. And who knows, maybe the rest of the songs on !UNO! sound similar to past songs as well. I'm trying to be optimistic as well, but if these 3 albums are just "pretty good" then I'll feel like this was pointless. Just do one amazing album that blows my mind. Alright dude...it's honestly people like you that like to criticize just to criticize. If 3 seconds of a Green Day songs sounds like another Green Day song, it doesn't fucking mean that the songs are the same. BTW, your comparison of Carpe Diem and 21st CB is bullshit because there are completely different notes vocally there. Rythmically they are the same, but musically they are not. In my opinion, Green Day's biggest Green Day "rip-off" if Deadbeat Holiday and American Eulogy...but I'm OK with that because the vibe of the songs is sooooooo different. So please, stop comparing songs to other songs because there's like 2 notes or rhythms that are the same. There is more to music than that.
sampy Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 That's bad when Green Day sounds like Green Day, right? I can see Xzibit going like: "You dawg I heard yo like Green Day so we put a Green Day song in a Green Day song so you can listen Green Day while you listen Green Day"
Heather. Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I think this is a sign we all listen to too much Green Day music
1039SweetChildren Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 That's bad when Green Day sounds like Green Day, right? I liken it to siblings looking like one another. It's not like the songs are blatantly the same. They have elements here and there that are similar and it's really not that big of a deal. Each song has its own life.
Stephanie. Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I think this is a sign we all listen to too much Green Day music I second this! I also think we are bound to know of another song that sounds similar to another since we all are obviously big music fans. So no big deal.
WrongWayToSalvation Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Alright dude...it's honestly people like you that like to criticize just to criticize. If 3 seconds of a Green Day songs sounds like another Green Day song, it doesn't fucking mean that the songs are the same. BTW, your comparison of Carpe Diem and 21st CB is bullshit because there are completely different notes vocally there. Rythmically they are the same, but musically they are not. In my opinion, Green Day's biggest Green Day "rip-off" if Deadbeat Holiday and American Eulogy...but I'm OK with that because the vibe of the songs is sooooooo different. So please, stop comparing songs to other songs because there's like 2 notes or rhythms that are the same. There is more to music than that. You know why I'm criticizing them? Because no one else seems to be pointing this stuff out. So what if I'm criticizing to criticize? Isn't everything I have said so far true? I'm not pulling anything out of my ass, I'm being honest and speaking my mind. I'm sooo sorry that I'm not Generic Green Day Fan #735 and posting comment likes "Green Day is so amazing!" constantly. I'm a fan, but I'm not a fanboy.
NGDP Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 You know why I'm criticizing them? Because no one else seems to be pointing this stuff out. So what if I'm criticizing to criticize? Isn't everything I have said so far true? I'm not pulling anything out of my ass, I'm being honest and speaking my mind. I'm sooo sorry that I'm not Generic Green Day Fan #735 and posting comment likes "Green Day is so amazing!" constantly. I'm a fan, but I'm not a fanboy. Finally, someone who gets it! Also, whoever was raging at you knows nothing about music.
WrongWayToSalvation Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I liken it to siblings looking like one another. It's not like the songs are blatantly the same. They have elements here and there that are similar and it's really not that big of a deal. Each song has its own life. It's not just similarity. It's the fact that certain sections of a lot of their new songs have the EXACT same melody as sections from past. The ending of the chorus to Sweet 16 for example. The ending isn't "similar" to the pre chorus of Uptight, it's the EXACT same. It was as if they decided to copy that section from Uptight and paste it onto Sweet 16 with different lyrics. The section before the chorus in Carpe Diem isn't "similar' to the chorus of Suffocate, it's the EXACT same. Something similar would be that the main riff of Carpe Diem is similar to the riff of I Fought The Law. It isn't exactly like it, but it's reminiscent of it. The beginning of the solo to Carpe Diem is almost the EXACT same as the intro solo to I Fought The Law however. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6io07r6AIv8 Solo starts at 2:17 It's not "Oh it sounds sort of like it" it's sounds almost note for note like it. And if you don't think they sound very, very, very, VERY close to being the exact same then you're lying to yourself.
Sixtrix Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 I don't understand the complaints about some of the songs sounding familiar and that it is something to worry about and that it is simply lazy. Seriously, I understand a lot of you guys were not around when Dookie was released but Basket Case is almost an exact copy of One Of My Lies and Words I Might Have Ate has almost the same chords as In The End. If you are going to allow yourself to trip over the smallest similarities then there's no point in listening to music. The point is to put the song on and let it sink in and enjoy. Of course if you decide to bitch about it (or just complain), it's your own choice. But you are missing out on a lot of great stuff that Billie Joe is meaning to share with us. Once you guys have written over 100 original songs with no similarities whatsoever come back here and slap me in my face. But I assure you that it's impossible. And Billie Joe is without a doubt one of the greatest songwriters around at the moment and Green Day one of the last great bands still working their ass off.
Fuzz Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 And who knows, maybe the rest of the songs on !UNO! sound similar to past songs as well. I'm trying to be optimistic as well, but if these 3 albums are just "pretty good" then I'll feel like this was pointless. Just do one amazing album that blows my mind. What you should do is wait till January to listen to all three albums. Pick your favorites from albums, delete the rest, pretend the ones you kept all just one album, and sit in your room thinking Green Day just made the most amazing album of their career and how much you love 100% of the songs.
Dalya Posted August 10, 2012 Posted August 10, 2012 Kill the DJ has absolutely new sound, but still people say that they miss "old Green Day". When they hear 99 Revolutions, they say that this one is too similar to "old Green Day"... I don't fucking understand what the hell they want from these guys? Magic?
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