WorryRock02 Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Some people are never happy. Green Day recorded 37 songs!!! They will release 3 albums. Who care about the single cover or their clothes? Some debats or reactions are really ridiculous. Green Day is about music period.
Bastard of 1967 Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 I totally agree. But the EP cover is worse than the tracklist, geez. The cover makes sense given what they're putting on it. It's what they're putting on it that's disappointing. How about a radio edit and 2 or 3 B-sides, Warner!!??
DannyDirnt Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 I meant I loved the falsetto, but it was too noticeable that it wasn't a natural progression of the voice. They just pasted the falsetto there, right next to the normal part.
Bastard of 1967 Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Don't all the trilology covers look like that though? Bingo. The underlying theme of all the cover art so far is rough, do-it-yourself, so by definition it's going to take the professional polish "shine" off of it. It's a shout-out to the band's early days when D-I-Y was all they had, and I actually think it's neat and refreshing. The red "X" at the top of the traffic light speaks to "Stop when the red lights flash" -- both the forthcoming song and the Oh Love lyric, with the other two spots on the light incorporating the key cover art symbols from the band's most recent past (and pictorially telling us the albums from which the EP's live tracks were drawn). So conceptually it works. In terms of polish and technique, if an old-school-punk "DIY" style was what the artist was shooting for then the sloppy erasures around the yellow and green stoplight graphic insertions were probably deliberate. Cover art aside -- I do think that at the start of what's supposed to be a new era for Green Day, it's mostly a waste to use four live tracks from the past and no B-sides from the trilogy's recording sessions. The only reason why it's not a total waste -- and what I suspect that Warner's marketing folks may be trying to do here -- is use the EP to pull in the more recent, casual, or fair-weather "soft" fans into the new Green Day by trying to hook them with a few live versions of songs they're already familiar with or may have heard themselves on the recent tour. Let's be honest -- Warner isn't reaching for us hard-core idiots, they know the band could practically put dog poo in a CD case and we'd still run out and buy it. They're going after the soft-core fans who might easily brush past the new album. For them, this might hit as "OOh! Look, there's an EP with a live track of Know Your Enemy on it -- that so rocked when I saw it on tour, let's buy it......oh, what's this, a new song on it too? Cool.... Oh, it's going to be on a new album? What? Did you say THREE new albums?" If that statement applies to you, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UNDER A GODDAMN ROCK??? Bottom line is, I don't think this EP was targeted at the fans who frequent GDA/GDC, it's aimed at a listener base far less rabid than us. So...do I think the EP will actually accomplish what it seems like marketing is trying to do with it? Not really. The new material needs to stand for itself. If it's good, they will come.
Todd Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Bingo. The underlying theme of all the cover art so far is rough, do-it-yourself, so by definition it's going to take the professional polish "shine" off of it. It's a shout-out to the band's early days when D-I-Y was all they had, and I actually think it's neat and refreshing. The red "X" at the top of the traffic light speaks to "Stop when the red lights flash" -- both the forthcoming song and the Oh Love lyric, with the other two spots on the light incorporating the key cover art symbols from the band's most recent past (and pictorially telling us the albums from which the EP's live tracks were drawn). That being said, however, I do think that at the start of what's supposed to be a new era for Green Day, it's mostly a waste to use four live tracks from the past. The only reason why it's not a total waste -- and what I suspect that Warner's marketing folks may be trying to do here -- is use the EP to pull in "fair-weather fans" into the new era by trying to hook them with a few live versions of songs they're already familiar with or may have heard on the recent tour. Let's be honest -- Warner isn't reaching for us hard-core idiots, they know the band could practically put dog poo in a CD case and we'd still run out and buy it. They're going after the soft-core fans who might not otherwise buy the new single. For them, this might hit as "OOh! Look, there's an EP with a live track of Know Your Enemy on it -- that so rocked when I saw it on tour, let's buy it......oh, what's this, a new song on it too? Cool...." Bottom line is, I don't think this EP was targeted at the fans who frequent GDA/GDC, it's aimed at someone else. So...do I think the EP will actually accomplish what it seems like marketing is trying to do with it? Not really. The new material needs to stand for itself. Wow. Very nicely put. That makes total sense now.
solongfromthestars Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 I haven't got an issue with the idea of the EP cover, I just keep seeing that badly erased bit of Christian and Gloria. It doesn't matter though. It's not bad otherwise. I meant I loved the falsetto, but it was too noticeable that it wasn't a natural progression of the voice. They just pasted the falsetto there, right next to the normal part. It does sound a little bit like that but I think he did sing it naturally, if you listen to the live version he hits that note perfectly in the same way. Not that it's that important, haha.
No Rhyme Or Reason Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Bingo. The underlying theme of all the cover art so far is rough, do-it-yourself, so by definition it's going to take the professional polish "shine" off of it. It's a shout-out to the band's early days when D-I-Y was all they had, and I actually think it's neat and refreshing. The red "X" at the top of the traffic light speaks to "Stop when the red lights flash" -- both the forthcoming song and the Oh Love lyric, with the other two spots on the light incorporating the key cover art symbols from the band's most recent past (and pictorially telling us the albums from which the EP's live tracks were drawn). So conceptually it works. In terms of polish and technique, if an old-school-punk "DIY" style was what the artist was shooting for then the sloppy erasures around the yellow and green stoplight graphic insertions were probably deliberate. Cover art aside -- I do think that at the start of what's supposed to be a new era for Green Day, it's mostly a waste to use four live tracks from the past and no B-sides from the trilogy's recording sessions. The only reason why it's not a total waste -- and what I suspect that Warner's marketing folks may be trying to do here -- is use the EP to pull in the more recent, casual, or fair-weather "soft" fans into the new Green Day by trying to hook them with a few live versions of songs they're already familiar with or may have heard themselves on the recent tour. Let's be honest -- Warner isn't reaching for us hard-core idiots, they know the band could practically put dog poo in a CD case and we'd still run out and buy it. They're going after the soft-core fans who might easily brush past the new album. For them, this might hit as "OOh! Look, there's an EP with a live track of Know Your Enemy on it -- that so rocked when I saw it on tour, let's buy it......oh, what's this, a new song on it too? Cool.... Oh, it's going to be on a new album? What? Did you say THREE new albums?" If this applies to you, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UNDER A GODDAMN ROCK???Bottom line is, I don't think this EP was targeted at the fans who frequent GDA/GDC, it's aimed at a listener base far less rabid than us. So...do I think the EP will actually accomplish what it seems like marketing is trying to do with it? Not really. The new material needs to stand for itself. If it's good, they will come. That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. I was just too lazy to write it out last night, haha!. But yeah, the EP is clearly trying to bring in new or more unaware listeners. People that maybe bought American Idiot and/or 21st Century Breakdown, or people that simply bought the singles, or even people that kind of liked those songs on the radio but never downloaded them - those are the people Warner's targeting here. Someone might see the EP and recognize a few songs that he likes, so he buys it and discovers the *new* Green Day song. This EP is like fusing the past few eras together to make it more continuous or seamless, and therefore capture some more casual listeners who will potentially but the three new albums (that's the ultimate goal here). It all makes sense. And the artwork helps - how could anyone not recognize that iconic heart grenade?? Or even the Christian/Gloria logo might be recognizable. Those will further help with drawing in new casual fans to ultimately buy the albums. So for the fans it's kind of a letdown. BUT - this is just the first EP which needs to get those extra buyers. Later EPs will probably have more freedom to include b-sides or acoustic or live versions of new songs. Also, I like the EP cover. Well, more like I appreciate the whole concept and what it's going for, with the logos from the last two eras there too. I think I would like it better if the background wasn't that ugly red color. I think that's my only real problem with it though. I like the design and idea. It does sound a little bit like that but I think he did sing it naturally, if you listen to the live version he hits that note perfectly in the same way. Not that it's that important, haha. I noticed that too. I was so proud of him! I agree though, it sounds like it's pretty much sung naturally. I think people just jump to the conclusion that it's autotune too quickly. Like some people like Sixtrix were saying, we're so used to 99% of pop songs being overly, obviously autotuned (á la Ke$ha and such people), that when we hear someone who can actually sing we assume it's autotuned because *of course no one can naturally sound like that.* But before autotune was invented 15 years ago, people actually could sound like that. They can now too, when they perform live. There are good singers who can hit those notes perfectly, and I guess we just don't realize Billie's true talents yet.
WalkingContradictionPL Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 Bingo. The underlying theme of all the cover art so far is rough, do-it-yourself, so by definition it's going to take the professional polish "shine" off of it. It's a shout-out to the band's early days when D-I-Y was all they had, and I actually think it's neat and refreshing. The red "X" at the top of the traffic light speaks to "Stop when the red lights flash" -- both the forthcoming song and the Oh Love lyric, with the other two spots on the light incorporating the key cover art symbols from the band's most recent past (and pictorially telling us the albums from which the EP's live tracks were drawn). So conceptually it works. In terms of polish and technique, if an old-school-punk "DIY" style was what the artist was shooting for then the sloppy erasures around the yellow and green stoplight graphic insertions were probably deliberate. Cover art aside -- I do think that at the start of what's supposed to be a new era for Green Day, it's mostly a waste to use four live tracks from the past and no B-sides from the trilogy's recording sessions. The only reason why it's not a total waste -- and what I suspect that Warner's marketing folks may be trying to do here -- is use the EP to pull in the more recent, casual, or fair-weather "soft" fans into the new Green Day by trying to hook them with a few live versions of songs they're already familiar with or may have heard themselves on the recent tour. Let's be honest -- Warner isn't reaching for us hard-core idiots, they know the band could practically put dog poo in a CD case and we'd still run out and buy it. They're going after the soft-core fans who might easily brush past the new album. For them, this might hit as "OOh! Look, there's an EP with a live track of Know Your Enemy on it -- that so rocked when I saw it on tour, let's buy it......oh, what's this, a new song on it too? Cool.... Oh, it's going to be on a new album? What? Did you say THREE new albums?" If that statement applies to you, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS, UNDER A GODDAMN ROCK??? Bottom line is, I don't think this EP was targeted at the fans who frequent GDA/GDC, it's aimed at a listener base far less rabid than us. So...do I think the EP will actually accomplish what it seems like marketing is trying to do with it? Not really. The new material needs to stand for itself. If it's good, they will come. This is what I wanted to write until I saw you post. I was thinking about it and to tell the truth, Warner's idea isn't a big surprise for me. They must have a lot of work with promoting trilogy and they know that they must attract more people. I want some b-sides, but I understand Warner's logic. Imo this EP is also directed to people, who didn't know Green Day before and after hearing Oh Love they get in. B-sides are often songs, which in some people opinion, maybe even the band, don't deserce to be on the albums, so it's clear, that to get new fans they must show sometjing the best, well known. I hope that we'll get some b-sides on Japanese editions or single. And there will be next singles, so maybe then. And I don't like the cover. It's a bit unprofessional for me
DoodleBob Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 I actually loved the EP's artwork... Yeah, same. I don't get the hate.
Malleus Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 And were still talking about a useless EP... News having to do with Green Day's new single in the thread for their new single? Fucking shocking!
Sarcasm Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 And were still talking about a useless EP... How useless it is, is subjective. Fucking collectors, man.
TheJedi Posted July 20, 2012 Posted July 20, 2012 And were still talking about a useless EP... uhm yeah? maybe 'cause this is the thread for Oh Love... x)
Sixtrix Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 And were still talking about a useless EP... well, instead if typing that you could also have tried to change the subject
Rusty Hart Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 anyone here, can you give me video guitar lesson "Oh Love" Solo ? i can't learned from Tab or Guitar Pro...
MrsBillieJoe95 Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 I heard Oh Love on the radio today it made my night Eh.. The EP isn't really needed and the artwork looks awkward. I mean, I like the stoplight idea, but they could have at least made it more appealing and probably could have left out the HG and Christian+ Gloria Whoever's doing the artwork needs to step up their game.
DannyDirnt Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 It does sound a little bit like that but I think he did sing it naturally, if you listen to the live version he hits that note perfectly in the same way. Not that it's that important, haha. Oh, no, I think he can prefectly reach it too. I didn't mean it was autotune, but that you could notice the editing because you can hear a big jumo in Billie's voice's "key"...
DoodleBob Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 In my opinion, there's nothing wrong with using a bit of editing with those high one-note vocals. As long as Billie can hit the falsetto (which he can), it shouldn't really matter. And it's not even over edited. They just did it to make his voice sound more smooth.
sampy Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 Is that EP artwork really real deal or is it fan made?
Sixtrix Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 Is that EP artwork really real deal or is it fan made? It's the real deal with a fan made kind of style
biwic Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 anyone here, can you give me video guitar lesson "Oh Love" Solo ? i can't learned from Tab or Guitar Pro... i could do one, if you'd like
Todd Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 Has anyone noticed that the font used for Green Day on the Oh Love single cover is almost identical to the one on the American Idiot album cover? Its like that for all the new album artwork, and frankly, it looks pretty good
Heather. Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 I have to say, Oh Love being #5 on Amazon and #190 on iTunes is COMPLETELY mind-boggling to me. You can account for differences to a certain extent, but that is the most ridiculous gap. If you look at all the other top hits right now (Call Me Maybe, Flo Rida, Katy Perry, etc.), Amazon and iTunes basically line up.... then there is this song. What the fuck? Even the Killers song which is #6 on Amazon is at least at #36 on iTunes. It makes ZERO sense to me. Maybe this is Steve Jobs exacting his revenge on Green Day
GuitarPunk94 Posted July 21, 2012 Posted July 21, 2012 I have to say, Oh Love being #5 on Amazon and #190 on iTunes is COMPLETELY mind-boggling to me. You can account for differences to a certain extent, but that is the most ridiculous gap. If you look at all the other top hits right now (Call Me Maybe, Flo Rida, Katy Perry, etc.), Amazon and iTunes basically line up.... then there is this song. What the fuck? Even the Killers song which is #6 on Amazon is at least at #36 on iTunes. It makes ZERO sense to me. Maybe this is Steve Jobs exacting his revenge on Green Day maybe because on amazon its so much cheaper than on itunes and reprise missed it to do some frontpage-advertising for Oh Love at itunes
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