koolkev Posted February 15, 2011 Author Posted February 15, 2011 Yeah I suppose visual things don't stand out quite as much on video, especially as the camera is focused on Billie most of the time. I was surprised just how much of my attention Mike (and Tre) took up when saw them live. But you are right that he doesn't have as much of the spotlight as he used to, I think that's just happened naturally because they put on such a big show so he works more to support Billie. You can still see him taking the spotlight on video sometimes though : Yeah thanks. Listened to all th old stuff today, and the bass is SO vivid. But, you can still make it out in 21CB EPIC VID THANX!!!!!!!!!!
green day is Posted February 15, 2011 Posted February 15, 2011 I've been listening to AI and 21st Century and I was really listening for the bass, because of this thread, and I realized that his bass really isn't much less prominent. He's the backbone of many,m nay songs and it's clearly audible in some songs. Jesus of Suburbia is mainly bass in some parts (I Don't Care's verse, the intro of Dearly Beloved) Mike's got a solo in the "Representative of California" part of Holiday, it's clearly audible throughout BoBD, I really don't see what you're talking about. In American Eulogy there's pretty much no song without the bass.
koolkev Posted February 17, 2011 Author Posted February 17, 2011 See your point... I DO love his bass! The old solos he used to do where EPIC, and I really miss them. *sniff*
minority_defeats_majority Posted February 17, 2011 Posted February 17, 2011 yeah i know. That is why dookie is the best because mikes bass was very loud and awesome He sould turn that amp up
koolkev Posted February 19, 2011 Author Posted February 19, 2011 When does HE only sing? Mass Hesteria/Morden World prt 2 verse, but anything else?
Melonhead Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Part of Homecoming and he sings Governator. Of course they don't play those live (I'm alright with Governator not getting played).
Hermione Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 ^ He sings about half of The Network's songs too. Or at least Van Gogh does
Dookie Head Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Hey, I'm a new guy on the forum, and I thought I'd give my two cents. There's definitely nothing close to the bass on Dookie, on pretty much every song, it's fucking awesome, and really prominent. I love Longview of course, but little stuff, like the one ringing bass note at the end of the chorus is one of my favorite aspects of any GD song. I've played bass for seven years now, and the reason I got into GD, is, when my parents got me a bass for Christmas, before AI came out, my friend told me that this album had awesome bass riffs, so I learned the whole album over the course of a few months. As for the more recent stuff having less bass, I'd have to agree. In AI, the notes for bass (E4, E2, A4) are the exact same as the guitar chords, except the guitar chords are flat fifths. I'd point to the bass solo in Holiday as awesome recent GD bass stuff or the Grammy performance of American Idiot in either 2004 or 2005, which was really bass-y.
Billie'sgirl Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Well, i have noticed it, but GD has changed a bit, the songs are just more "Full" , and one of the things that i loved of the old GD was the cleanness of the songs, you could hear every instrument, and they didint clash with eachother, i suppose that Mike isint doing that much heavy bass as he used to, but now, theres to many sides to the song, so you listen to it all instead. in a way thats good, but i really miss the old bass stuff Mike used to do maybe and album not so mixed/produced, would do it.
Kayfabe Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 I don't think it's just you. I've heard this as a common complaint. yep. it's known as 'where have all the basslines gone?' . It's a shame, too.
koolkev Posted February 20, 2011 Author Posted February 20, 2011 It seems like all tHeir REALLY popular songs have quiet bass. 21 Guns, BOBD, Know Your Enemy, etc... Just a thought
koolkev Posted February 21, 2011 Author Posted February 21, 2011 I guess he does have some more recent solos... Lights Out, Holiday, kinda in Last Of The American Girls, a few more i think?
localinsomniac Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 I guess he does have some more recent solos... Lights Out, Holiday, kinda in Last Of The American Girls, a few more i think? But aren't those more just parts of songs that are more driven by the bass? A bass solo is more like what you hear in Stuck With Me.
Lena549 Posted February 21, 2011 Posted February 21, 2011 It is cool and different when he sings in AE the way it's so very deep and his voice in backups are very high. Off topic though. My favourite part of American Eulogy is the part where Mike is singing. It's different and that's what I like so much about it (off topic too)
koolkev Posted February 23, 2011 Author Posted February 23, 2011 But aren't those more just parts of songs that are more driven by the bass? A bass solo is more like what you hear in Stuck With Me. Very true. (listened to Insomniac today )Also, it seems that Tre's bass drum (not only him, some other drummers too) is getting quieter. Mebbe that's just me, too.
GreenRanger Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 It's true, Mike is more recently contributing to the fullness and power of Green Day songs. He does have this moments, and they're fun, but they're not quite as fancy. I'd love to see him bring back some of the fancier stuff from Insomniac and Dookie and use them during bridges and solos in new songs...I think that would be a good place for him to mix it up a little. That way, he's sort of giving the power where it needs it and then he's also giving the fancy where appropriate too. I still have trouble playing some of the older Green Day basslines, and I'd love to see those types of things come back. Stuck With Me comes to mind. That's a nice song. And by god do I love his voice. He's so punk.
Uva Posted February 23, 2011 Posted February 23, 2011 I guess he does have some more recent solos... Lights Out, Holiday, kinda in Last Of The American Girls, a few more i think? indeed) He has a solo at the begining of "Last of the American girls"
koolkev Posted February 23, 2011 Author Posted February 23, 2011 indeed) He has a solo at the begining of "Last of the American girls" Not so much a solo, just carrying the riff for Billie. Maybe I'm wrong
Leisha-LUNA Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I don't notice his bass is quiet. Probably because its all I hear when i listen to GD sometimes hehe. And when I see them live he's all I watch... I think their music is kind of more..together, if that makes sense. It's less drums and guitar and bass, and more of one sound.
porksoda Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 It's probably because there are two or more guitar tracks on the newer albums. The more guitar you have, in combination with higher production values (especially with Bruce Vig) means you can hear less of the bass. Idk though, I haven't really noticed it. Yeah his bass playing has gotten slightly less complicated, but it still packs a punch. That and I doubt he's still tripping on acid and writing bass lines .
koolkev Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 It's probably because there are two or more guitar tracks on the newer albums. The more guitar you have, in combination with higher production values (especially with Bruce Vig) means you can hear less of the bass. Idk though, I haven't really noticed it. Yeah his bass playing has gotten slightly less complicated, but it still packs a punch. That and I doubt he's still tripping on acid and writing bass lines . No acid for you, Mike. What you're saying is true, though. The more sound in general (2 to 4 guitars on 21CB), the harder it is to focus on one specific sound. I completely agree :)
Moxy Crimefighter Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I hear the bass just fine. I don't think it's gotten quieter. If the song calls for it, the song calls for it
koolkev Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 I hear the bass just fine. I don't think it's gotten quieter. If the song calls for it, the song calls for it Yeah.. Are you a bass player? I think people hear the instrument they play the loudest. I play the drums, and can figure out what Tre's playing, sit at my kit, and pretty much play it. (for most songs) so, I think your insturment is more audible to you.
oda Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 When does HE only sing? Mass Hesteria/Morden World prt 2 verse, but anything else? he sings in governator
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