EvanAsFuck Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 There is no last word in JAR, that's the fucking point. Jason was cut off before he could even finish saying what he wanted to do, because he died so young. I don't get why people try and fit a word in there Half the beauty and the tragedy of the song is the fact that it's incomplete, just like Jason's life was. Wow, for some reason I've never made that connection...
Undómiel Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 There is no last word in JAR, that's the fucking point. Jason was cut off before he could even finish saying what he wanted to do, because he died so young. I don't get why people try and fit a word in there Half the beauty and the tragedy of the song is the fact that it's incomplete, just like Jason's life was. Deep. I'd never thought of that before...
Katarina. Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 There is no last word in JAR, that's the fucking point. Jason was cut off before he could even finish saying what he wanted to do, because he died so young. I don't get why people try and fit a word in there Half the beauty and the tragedy of the song is the fact that it's incomplete, just like Jason's life was. That's how always thought of it. I never had a particular word in mind when I sing along to JAR. It's just "all I wanna do is.." *song is over*. That's what makes the song interesting.
green day is Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 Seriously, "iTunes just censored the name" would have sufficed. and 'faggots' could really be considered offensive to people. You don't have to talk to people in such a condescending way to make your point. This is exactly my fucking point. People don't realize that words like "faggot" don't mean a damn thing. They freak out for no reason over something other people say, write, type, and what-not because they think the world is built around them. Also, this. Why do you have to be a dick for no reason, dude? I don't think I'm being a dick, I think I'm being anti-censorship, which I am. I believe censorship is 100% wrong.
EvanAsFuck Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 This is exactly my fucking point. People don't realize that words like "faggot" don't mean a damn thing. They freak out for no reason over something other people say, write, type, and what-not because they think the world is built around them. Well (in my personal view) I hate the word "faggot" and I absolutely hate it when people use it (which, sadly, is extremely often). But it's not because I think the world is built around me, it's because in my experience most people do in fact use the word to mean it's literal meaning of a derogatory term for someone who is homosexual. I doubt you were trying to use it in that form of the word in this case, but just keep in mind that elsewhere it is used in an extremely negative way and people definitely have the right to point it out and to be against it no matter what the context. If you want to express your hate towards whoever you are talking about, there are plenty of other acceptable words that you could use that won't potentially offend people or be taken in the wrong way.
green day is Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Well (in my personal view) I hate the word "faggot" and I absolutely hate it when people use it (which, sadly, is extremely often). But it's not because I think the world is built around me, it's because in my experience most people do in fact use the word to mean it's literal meaning of a derogatory term for someone who is homosexual. I doubt you were trying to use it in that form of the word in this case, but just keep in mind that elsewhere it is used in an extremely negative way and people definitely have the right to point it out and to be against it no matter what the context. If you want to express your hate towards whoever you are talking about, there are plenty of other acceptable words that you could use that won't potentially offend people or be taken in the wrong way. You see, this is what I really hate. People who don't realize that, over time, words change meaning. Faggot no longer means homosexual, it means a mixture of "homosexual" and "stupid". Same with gay. Retard is no longer casually used to describe a mental illness, it's now used to describe someone who isn't too bright. If I were to call two homosexuals "faggots" blatantly, yes, that would be wrong and offensive, but I wasn't using it that way. I'm not saying that everyone who supports censorship is homosexual, I'm saying their stupid, just in a more extreme manner, and if someone can't gather up enough brain cells to figure that out, they should probably stay away from the internet.
koolkev Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 ^^AGREED. Who gives a fucking shit about all the retarted faggots supporting god damn mother fucking censorship?!?!?!?
Guest EDIT Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 ^^AGREED. Who gives a fucking shit about all the retarted faggots supporting god damn mother fucking censorship?!?!?!? I don't know why, but when I read your post and your age, I laughed. Sorry, I felt it was neccesary to say that
koolkev Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I don't know why, but when I read your post and your age, I laughed. Sorry, I felt it was neccesary to say that ok then!
Guest EDIT Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 ok then! +1 rep for not taking that hard and your good at the drums!
koolkev Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 +1 rep for not taking that hard and your good at the drums! You think I'm good at drums? :wub: why thankyou
Khaleesi. Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I don't know why, but when I read your post and your age, I laughed. Sorry, I felt it was neccesary to say that I find it even funnier that you're only 2 years older, and saying this.
Guest EDIT Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I find it even funnier that you're only 2 years older, and saying this. I know, I thought it was just kinda funny, I wasn't making fun of him, I thought it was awesome
koolkev Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 @Alan Brunkhorse Your only 13? Kewl. So few little babies on GDC!
Khaleesi. Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I know, I thought it was just kinda funny, I wasn't making fun of him, I thought it was awesome Haha, oh I know. I just found it amusing. Anyway, back to the Q&A...
green day is Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Did the original CD release of Kerplunk! have the Sweet Children tracks on it, or was it just the Reprise version?
koolkev Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I'm not sure.. I beloved both. Maybe I'm wrong*belive*
Guest EDIT Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Did the original CD release of Kerplunk! have the Sweet Children tracks on it, or was it just the Reprise version? No, only the so called "remastered" version cd does. I don't think Reprise changed anything on the album, they probably just said it to boost sales. I'm just going by when I compared the two, and don't you need the multitracks to remaster an album anyways? The Kerplunk! ones are not available, they are in really bad shape...
Guest EDIT Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I just looked on Wikipedia and it said the cd realese had them, yet, my cd, one of the first ever made does not have them, only the newer one. Hmmm, that is strange...
koolkev Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I just looked on Wikipedia and it said the cd realese had them, yet, my cd, one of the first ever made does not have them, only the newer one. Hmmm, that is strange... The mysterious case of Liquid Dookie. Hahaha
Velocity Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I have an Epitaph/Lookout Records version of Kerplunk from 1997 and it has the bonus tracks on it...interesting
pasalaska Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 I'm really, really sorry to bring this back up, but I need to say it. This is exactly my fucking point. People don't realize that words like "faggot" don't mean a damn thing. They freak out for no reason over something other people say, write, type, and what-not because they think the world is built around them. so suddenly 'faggot' is not offensive because you decided it wasn't? And I'm the one who thinks the world is built around me? wow, okay. and just so you know, 'faggot' does mean a damn thing to people that get heckled and called that day after day. As with most of these terms, it depends on the context in which the word is used. People using the term in a derogatory manner only re-inforces the notion that homosexuality is a negative or shameful thing. I'm not asking you to censor what you're saying, I'm asking you to think about what you're saying. big.fucking.difference. I don't think I'm being a dick, I think I'm being anti-censorship, which I am. I believe censorship is 100% wrong. Trust me, it's not your beliefs that make you look like it dick, it's your diction and your syntax, and your giant 'I'm right, you're wrong' attitude. Faggot no longer means homosexual, it means a mixture of "homosexual" and "stupid". /rant
captain peroxide Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 This is exactly my fucking point. People don't realize that words like "faggot" don't mean a damn thing. They freak out for no reason over something other people say, write, type, and what-not because they think the world is built around them. I don't think I'm being a dick, I think I'm being anti-censorship, which I am. I believe censorship is 100% wrong. Maybe it doesn't mean anything to you, but that may not be the case with someone else. Being anti-censorship (we get it, you're not afraid to swear, you're very cool) doesn't give you the right to be a cunt to everyone for no reason.
littlegirl-of-suburbia Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Wow i didn't know that about JAR thanks captain peroxide ^^
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