Pupulainen Posted December 8, 2010 Posted December 8, 2010 "Red alert is the color of panic Elevated to the point of static" The USA has colour coded threat levels, so red alert would be panic time. When people are panicking, everything is dramatized and becomes so far from the actual truth, what you hear might as well be static noise. I thought it could also be that there are constantly "red alerts", like warnings about terrorists and all kinds of obscure threats, so that people get used to them, start to ignore them and they just become static noise that people don't really pay attention to anymore. And this is a really bad explanation of what I mean. I shouldn't write anything when I'm tired.
Ellenkc Posted December 8, 2010 Posted December 8, 2010 I thought it could also be that there are constantly "red alerts", like warnings about terrorists and all kinds of obscure threats, so that people get used to them, start to ignore them and they just become static noise that people don't really pay attention to anymore. And this is a really bad explanation of what I mean. I shouldn't write anything when I'm tired. Red Alerts have only been used once I think, but I definitely understand what you mean. If warnings like that are overused they lose their impact on the public.
Johnny Higher Posted December 8, 2010 Posted December 8, 2010 Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone. I always thought that is a liar that wants apologize to a stone ( a grave) Someone who wants to apologize but it's too late "the thing" is dead (>>>stone/grave)
green day is Posted December 8, 2010 Author Posted December 8, 2010 Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone. I always thought that is a liar that wants apologize to a stone ( a grave) Someone who wants to apologize but it's too late "the thing" is dead (>>>stone/grave) Look back a couple pages, this line has been discussed quite a bit.
Johnny Higher Posted December 9, 2010 Posted December 9, 2010 Like a liar looking for forgiveness from a stone. I always thought that is a liar that wants apologize to a stone ( a grave) Someone who wants to apologize but it's too late "the thing" is dead (>>>stone/grave) I just wanted to give my opinion on this point. But don't worry I read the whole topic. And I never understood the title "Papers Lanterns" (I'm french so excuse my bad words -For the lack of a better word, and that's my best excuse-)
green day is Posted December 9, 2010 Author Posted December 9, 2010 I just wanted to give my opinion on this point. But don't worry I read the whole topic. And I never understood the title "Papers Lanterns" (I'm french so excuse my bad words -For the lack of a better word, and that's my best excuse-) Oooohhhh I thought you were asking about it.
Matt3.1 Posted December 9, 2010 Posted December 9, 2010 Care to explain to me then? id say more along the lines of that it's hard for someone who lied to get forgiveness from a stone because obviously a stone doesnt have much revelance so they need to go the extra mile to get forgiveness? idk if that makes sense haha
ParadoxAndPlaid Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Treated like a forbidden heel The word heel can also mean "a person of contempt"
agrizotti Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 "She holds my malakite so tight so.. Never let go." I always thought that malakite is like a reference to Billie's green eyes. But I really don't know if that's the true meaning (or even if it makes sense at all!). Does anyone have another explanation?
Shnitzel Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 "She holds my malakite so tight so.. Never let go." I always thought that malakite is like a reference to Billie's green eyes. But I really don't know if that's the true meaning (or even if it makes sense at all!). Does anyone have another explanation? What does malakite even mean?
agrizotti Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 What does malakite even mean? there's a green rock (green mineral i guess, dunno how to call it ) named Malachite, maybe is a misspelled reference to that?
Vespertine Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 there's a green rock (green mineral i guess, dunno how to call it ) named Malachite, maybe is a misspelled reference to that? I think the lyrics are "She holds my malachite so tight." I mean, the correct pronunciation of Malachite is "Malakite," so... I think it's a reference to his green eyes. I read he's basically saying "she stares deeply into my eyes," or something like that. I guess that's what it means, really.
pasalaska Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 "She holds my malakite so tight so.. Never let go." I always thought that malakite is like a reference to Billie's green eyes. But I really don't know if that's the true meaning (or even if it makes sense at all!). Does anyone have another explanation? I was discussing this one with a friend a while back. We both thought that maybe Billie had given Adie something made with malachite as a token of his love (like a piece of jewelry), so he's telling her to never let go of it, and the love it reperesents. Of course, this is all hypothetical, but it's a pretty common thing to give loved ones jewelry with precious stones.
Hermione Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Treated like a forbidden heel I think he means treated like he's unwanted and unimportant. "Forbidden" meaning not allowed/rejected, and "heel" meaning the bottom of someone's shoe - low down and worthless. Treated like a forbidden heel Don't say my thoughts are not for real Or you won't see me again He's being treated as though what he thinks doesn't matter, he's not being taken seriously or listened to. He isn't happy about it and warns that if he keeps getting treated this way "you won't see me again" . I was discussing this one with a friend a while back. We both thought that maybe Billie had given Adie something made with malachite as a token of his love (like a piece of jewelry), so he's telling her to never let go of it, and the love it reperesents. Of course, this is all hypothetical, but it's a pretty common thing to give loved ones jewelry with precious stones. This makes so much more sense than the eyes thing! I really can't imagine him referring to his own eyes in that way. Like "my beautiful malachite green eyes"......it would be pretty lame . It definitely sounds like something she's got from him that she's holding on to because he's far away, after all they're supposed to be "2000 light years away" from each other. Even if it wasn't something actually made of malachite it could be anything green that he gave her.
agrizotti Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 This makes so much more sense than the eyes thing! I really can't imagine him referring to his own eyes in that way. Like "my beautiful malachite green eyes"......it would be pretty lame . It definitely sounds like something she's got from him that she's holding on to because he's far away, after all they're supposed to be "2000 light years away" from each other. Even if it wasn't something actually made of malachite it could be anything green that he gave her. Yeah, it definitely makes more sense. I always thought the eyes metaphor was kinda lame, but it was the only explanation I could think of, dunno why it never occurred to me that he could actually give her a malachite (or something like that)
Hermione Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 Yeah, it definitely makes more sense. I always thought the eyes metaphor was kinda lame, but it was the only explanation I could think of, dunno why it never occurred to me that he could actually give her a malachite (or something like that) It's a tricky one, I don't think anyone can be sure what it means. Have to ask Billie
pasalaska Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 It's a tricky one, I don't think anyone can be sure what it means. Have to ask Billie I'd laugh so much if he said it didn't actually mean anything and it just sounded good and all us fans would be let down, knowing there wasn't some great poetic meaning after all
sara_gd Posted December 10, 2010 Posted December 10, 2010 I don't think it's a reference to his eyes, it would be too egocentric as Hermione said. Considering that the next line is "So... never let go", I would say is something of his body (I'm trying not to take that to a sexual context xD) or something that he gave her and that has an especial meaning for both of them. I don't think it has to be something green just because of the fact that malachites are green, but I don't know. Or well, maybe it is a sexual reference covered with that "malachite" word... :eyebrow: I'd laugh so much if he said it didn't actually mean anything and it just sounded good and all us fans would be let down, knowing there wasn't some great poetic meaning after all :lol:
stuart telegraph Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 I thought of a couple that don't quite jive: in JOS "no one ever died for my sins in hell, as far as I can tell, at least the ones I got away with" If you think about it, its kind of contradictory because you can't get away with sins. The other from Stuck with Me "moving on I always thought I realized you've imagined" huh?
sara_gd Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 I thought of a couple that don't quite jive: in JOS "no one ever died for my sins in hell, as far as I can tell, at least the ones I got away with" If you think about it, its kind of contradictory because you can't get away with sins. The other from Stuck with Me "moving on I always thought I realized you've imagined" huh? You can confess your sins to a priest, or I guess just forget them to get away with them? I don't know if I understood what you are trying to say, but summing those lines up it would be "They didn't die for the sins that I got away with", which could be contradictory (if this is what you mean (?) ), but I think that's the intention. Like, "No, no one died for my sins... well, not for the ones that I got away with anyway..."
Izzard Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 I always thought of it as "looking for forgiveness you aren't going to get". I've always compared it to the saying 'You're beating a dead horse' . So yeah your doing something that will get nothing in the end...or I see it like when people go to get forgiven of their sins at church, they sit in a booth and tell the guy all there wrong doings and supposedly that's just supposed to make it all be okay, but in all actuality it's not. So yeah...what you said.
Vrock09 Posted December 11, 2010 Posted December 11, 2010 Or it could have something to do with the previous line of "tattoos of memories". Tattoos, dead skin. I dunno that's how I saw it. The 'tattoos' started off as memories but ended up as nothing but 'dead skin' he'd need to answer up to, hence 'on trial'. So basically, the scars will always show. I don't know if I explained that well but that's how I always saw it. XD that makes so much more sense to me now.....
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