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Is Green Day giving up on 21stCB?


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I don't think "given up" is the right wording.

They only played 4 songs of of it at the show I went to a few weeks back but I think that is more because on this go round (the second one since the album wasv released) they wanted to just have fun and play lots of songs from their entire catalouge not just promote there latest album. I looked at it as more of a celebration of their band rather than a shunning of the newer material.

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I personally think it's more that they are having fun with older songs, rather than giving up on the new songs.

The 2009 tour was more the promo tour for the new album, whereas 2010 is a more generic GD tour.

I went to 3 2009 shows and Ive done 11 2010 shows, and they keep playing more and more older stuff...

They keep pulling out really rare oldies and taking more requests (coughlikeour1000HoursandPlatypusrequestcough), and the 2010 shows have felt a lot more aimed at the more diehard GD fans.

I really dont think it's anything against 21CB :)

Maybe during the AI tour, they really, really concentrated on playing new material because that was such a comeback, but with 21CB, GD have nothing left to proove, and so they mix up their sets alot more, and so it feels like this lot of new material is getting neglected.

ramble, much?

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Maybe it's because they know that doing tour after tour of the same setlist (as they did with the American idiot tour) is tiring and repetitive even for the most hardcore fan, and of course, themselves. Quite possibly they just don't want to wear out their new material. Instead, they're playing the best from all the albums, plus all the best album tracks they never gave much airtime in the past. As was said by someone before, this tour doesn't seem so much like the 21st Century Breakdown tour - that was last year - instead this is the 'Green Day are the biggest they've ever been, so let's show off something from every point in our career tour'.

They got bored playing the same setlist every night for almost two years last time round, this time they're simply not making the same mistake. They're whipping out songs they haven't played for years because it's fresh and it's fun to lay out a surprise like that. It's memories for them, and for a large portion of the audience, brand new music. The predominance of American Idiot tracks it probably because they know that for at least half the audience, that was the first Green Day record they heard. In the same way that they still do a whole bunch of Dookie songs for the older fans, because that was the first tase of Green day many of them had. Those two albus are, by majority, the albums people go to see live when they see Green Day.

Quite possibly on the second leg of the next tour in a few years Viva La Gloria!, Murder City and Horseshoes & Handgrenades will be staples in favour of that album's tracks, simply because they have been played so rarely, and it's fun to play stuff you don't do often.

That's my take on it, anyway.

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'giving up' i believe is the wrong phrase to describe. it's just this isn't about 21st CB anymore, it's about green day now. they know they're gonna miss the tour so they're having fun as much.

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I guess they're just playing older songs because they feel like it. I don't think they're giving up on the album.

Probably they just want to vary the setlist and play other stuff.

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It's almost the end of the tour so the 21CB era was bound to end soon anyway.

The American Idiot musical probably explains the heavy AI song choices.

I have a feeling that the next album will be more a return to form, a more down-to-earth album. Hopefully it'll be a mix of Warning and Dookie: good song writing combined with good energy. Honestly, it'd be fun to hear Green Day sing about some more light-hearted subject matters. AI and 21CB were really, really heavy lyrically. A change of pace in that area would be nice.

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Sadly I think they gave up on it a long time ago :( . Not just at shows but in general. They signed it's death certificate when they chickened out of releasing East Jesus Nowhere properly.

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mmmh....i just think they realize that most people really like the old stuff and get crazy about it ....idk i like both.

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I've been reading the setlists and articles of the last shows and I totally agree with you. Green Day is getting 21CB out of the way, maybe because they got tired of playing it's songs or they just don't like playing them as much as AI's songs or older album's. I guess some fans don't care what they play when they go to their shows. Green Day's got so far they can play whatever they want and keep the claps.

21CB won't be as meaningful as other albums to me anyways. I mean, it's a great record, but if I went to a Green Day show, I'd rather listen to some of my favorite classics so I can cry of happiness and rest in peace when it's over, y'know?

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Personally, I'm fine with them dropping a lot of 21st CB. I was more than delighted to hear a lot of American Idiot this tour, as Dookie, Smooth, and Kerplunk. I've noticed something though, from hearing a few of the 'rarer' songs on Youtube; a lot of 21st CB does NOT sound good when played live. After listening to Restless Heart Syndrome, I realized how bad it sounds live. I think with the element of a lot of violins and the such on the album, a lot of them are hard to play live. I'm sure they're getting sick of playing 21st CB as well; they did it the first half of the tour.

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how about :P probably not :P x

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That makes sense, this isn't the 21st Century Breakdown tour like last year's was. :thumbsup:

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