Are Green Day and the AI cast getting annoying

[GreenDay41]

I'm sorry but I have to highly disagree...

I think that AI DOES need publicity and that the cast is extremely talented and deserve to shine in the spotlight.

I understand its probably pretty annoying to see them with GD all the time but GD obviously wants them there, and they're having fun with it. I'd give anything to see more of the show and everytime I see them play live on TV with the cast of AI it makes me want to see the broadway musical more and more.

I don't see an issue with them appearing with Green Day on TV, its all Green Day to me, and any Green Day is great Green Day in my opinion.

[ChelseaWhatsername]

They were involved but Green Day is Billie Joe, Mike, and Tre. Not Billie Joe, Mike, Tre, Michael fucking Mayer, and whatever other braodway people that put it together. You bring up another good point too. If Green Day was that involved, then we can blame 21CB's long belated release on the AI musical. Instead of getting the record done they were butchering their career and performances with Michael Mayer.(really I am a nice guy and I like the musical and I respect Mr. Mayer and the cast I am just upset that the AI musical and cast is getting in the way of real Green Day(Billie Mike and Tre) music and their tv performances(which give them the best publicity they could get)

You do realize it takes a fuck load of work for an album like American Idiot and/or 21stCB to get where they end up for release, right? They can't churn out an album in 2 years. You cannot blame the slower release of 21stCB entirely on the musical. And you can't be close-minded your entire career and stick to CDs. Where is that going to get them? They weren't butchering their career, they were experimenting with it, like they always have been.

[BJWolf]

I'm sorry but I have to highly disagree...

I think that AI DOES need publicity and that the cast is extremely talented and deserve to shine in the spotlight.

I understand its probably pretty annoying to see them with GD all the time but GD obviously wants them there, and they're having fun with it. I'd give anything to see more of the show and everytime I see them play live on TV with the cast of AI it makes me want to see the broadway musical more and more.

I don't see an issue with them appearing with Green Day on TV, its all Green Day to me, and any Green Day is great Green Day in my opinion.

I can agree to disagree and my opinion is that Michael fucking Mayer's version of Green Day is taking top priority over real Green Day music. And that is wrong. Honestly though why Would you rather see the cast perform Michael Mayers music over Green Day's playing instead of Green Day playing Green Day music?

[germackpaccone]

Okay, I mean, I agree with you to some extent. I haven't seen the musical, and i'm sure it's great, but the whole idea of a musical seems weird to me I don't know, but i'm sure i'd like it if I saw it. Yeah I've been seeing a bunch of ads on the internet, TV, billboards, etc. it's starting to annoy me a bit, but it doesn't exactly get to me to the point where I would absolutley hate it and be pissed off about it. I mean it should be advertised a lot, it's a great musical, from what I've heard, but I can see how it is getting a little over the top.

I wouldn't say the musical is ruining Green Day, at all. I think it's kind of better for them to branch out and try new things, but that's just me. And so far the musical has been very successful so I don't see how that would be ruining Green Day. Also, so what if they have sold out? That really doesn't matter, to me at least, I still enjoy their music, nothing has changed for me. I kind of think you need to calm down a bit about this, no offense. It doesn't really seem like THAT big of a deal to me, I don't know.

I don't really know what to say about the Jets game, I mean I bet Green Day would do a great job on performing, and the musical would probably do a great job too. I don't know I wouldn't really care either way.

[GDM]

I understand that. Listen they did a great job with the musical but that doesn't mean they half to play at every damn event the guys play at. The musical is not real Green Day music. It is someone elses creation that was inspired by Green Day. And it annoys the hell outta me that I can't just watch my favorite band play (especially on my favorite sport). Common it's the Jets home opener and they won't do a real Green Day performance

I was at AI tonight and Billie Joe and Mike and Adie were there. I was in a box seat and could see him and looked down a couple times during the show. He looked relaxed and really attentive, he clearly loves what he's brought about. I say more power to him, but I'm a new school fan so I don't have such a stake in the old school Green Day as others might.

Unless you're at the game itself, you might even see them play, according to something I read earlier regarding the 1/2 time show. Unless that was a dish at the half-time commentator's show in the article, I don't know.

I will say the choice of LOTAG is an odd one for the show, but maybe they are using the cast not to sing but to "dance" and hopefully Billie will actually sing the song. I don't think I'd want John to sing it for the Super Bowl. He doesn't have Billie's performance sensibilities for a stadium show like this. It's going to be interesting, whatever they do. I can imagine them having Green Day sing the song while the actors "act" out the scene and maybe chime in on the chorus, which would actually sound pretty awesome in a stadium. With fireworks.

And I haven't tired of it yet because to me, it's still a bit novel and I guess I've seen Green Day play so many times this year by themselves that it doesn't bother me when they perform with the cast. I actually think it's kinda cool. But I realize that a lot of people haven't seen them a lot over the past year, so I can see where it would get annoying. And they haven't really done "everything" with them lately. They did the Tonys (which Green Day would never have been on if the musical hadn't existed), and the Grammies, but I don't remember anything else that they've performed at together, unless you count when Green Day got onstage with the cast the day after opening night.

Oh, I have to disagree with you here. I don't think they would have a problem saying no. I think when they are presented with an idea of something that interests them, or will expand their ideas/music, they go for it. But I don't think they do it because they don't know how to say no...

I concur.

[BJWolf]

You do realize it takes a fuck load of work for an album like American Idiot and/or 21stCB to get where they end up for release, right? They can't churn out an album in 2 years. You cannot blame the slower release of 21stCB entirely on the musical. And you can't be close-minded your entire career and stick to CDs. Where is that going to get them? They weren't butchering their career, they were experimenting with it, like they always have been.

Well I sure as hell hope you realize that you can't snap your fingers and make a musical happen . A lot when into that and it is quite obvious that it is interfearing with Green Day's music. You are absolutely wrong. While it might not be the only reason, it sure is a damn big one.

[ifmemoryserves]

As Andres said, I'm sure it's not like the cast is simply inviting themselves along to these performances. If Green Day didn't want them there, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be there. Although I will admit that, like Lauren said, LOTAG is probably the only song in the musical that was done poorly, and I just don't like that song in general, so Green Day performing it live, plus having the cast there is like a double whammy. That being said, I don't think it's "bullshit" and I wouldn't refuse to watch it.

[Mar]

I do get annoyed about hearing or reading or seeing the AI musical cast, I mean like you said they sing good but i would like my Green Day and Musical Cast to be seperate. other then that all i can do for now is ignore all the news about them because apparently other people like them as much as the band, and they kind of did get more people into listening to green day so i cant complain much. but I understand what you mean.

Well said, that's exactly how I feel.

Maybe I feel a bit of a disconnect to the musical cast because there's no way in hell I'll ever see the show in its current form (on Broadway, with this cast), if I ever see a staging of the show at all. So maybe that's why I am less likely to watch/read about cast stuff. I don't hate the musical, and as others said, I'm sure Green Day is inviting them, but I am getting a little fatigued on the cast, even if I like the album. Plus, I'm convinced the musical publicity helped to put this album/tour on the backburner.

[*withoutadoubt*]

I will say the choice of LOTAG is an odd one for the show, but maybe they are using the cast not to sing but to "dance" and hopefully Billie will actually sing the song. I don't think I'd want John to sing it for the Super Bowl. He doesn't have Billie's performance sensibilities for a stadium show like this. It's going to be interesting, whatever they do. I can imagine them having Green Day sing the song while the actors "act" out the scene and maybe chime in on the chorus, which would actually sound pretty awesome in a stadium. With fireworks.

I am interested to see how this pans out myself. As far as I know, they've never performed this song together, and I'm eager to see what they do together with it. It's actually not one of my favorites, but eh...who knows,maybe they'll wow me!

[ChelseaWhatsername]

Well I sure as hell hope you realize that you can't snap your fingers and make a musical happen . A lot when into that and it is quite obvious that it is interfearing with Green Day's music. You are absolutely wrong. While it might not be the only reason, it sure is a damn big one.

Yes, I do realize that, thank you. I do know the musical had a part to do with the progress of 21stCB. But so did stringing the songs together, writing them, putting keys and notes, bass, drums and guitar to them, recording... You can't just snap your fingers and make a CD, either. God knows how long it took to write those songs and perfect them. Also, while they were there to help work on the musical, they were not there the whole time. They'd pop in every now and then to see how the songs were going. The rest of the time was most likely spent working in the recording studio figuring out 21stCB. We don't know, neither of us have tried working on 2 different projects that can affect your entire career before, have we?

[BJWolf]

I was at AI tonight and Billie Joe and Mike and Adie were there. I was in a box seat and could see him and looked down a couple times during the show. He looked relaxed and really attentive, he clearly loves what he's brought about. I say more power to him, but I'm a new school fan so I don't have such a stake in the old school Green Day as others might.

Unless you're at the game itself, you might even see them play, according to something I read earlier regarding the 1/2 time show. Unless that was a dish at the half-time commentator's show in the article, I don't know.

I will say the choice of LOTAG is an odd one for the show, but maybe they are using the cast not to sing but to "dance" and hopefully Billie will actually sing the song. I don't think I'd want John to sing it for the Super Bowl. He doesn't have Billie's performance sensibilities for a stadium show like this. It's going to be interesting, whatever they do. I can imagine them having Green Day sing the song while the actors "act" out the scene and maybe chime in on the chorus, which would actually sound pretty awesome in a stadium. With fireworks.

And I haven't tired of it yet because to me, it's still a bit novel and I guess I've seen Green Day play so many times this year by themselves that it doesn't bother me when they perform with the cast. I actually think it's kinda cool. But I realize that a lot of people haven't seen them a lot over the past year, so I can see where it would get annoying. And they haven't really done "everything" with them lately. They did the Tonys (which Green Day would never have been on if the musical hadn't existed), and the Grammies, but I don't remember anything else that they've performed at together, unless you count when Green Day got onstage with the cast the day after opening night.

I concur.

I'm 15. American Idiot is a huge part of my life. It changed my life so much and it is the greatest fucking album there is or ever will be. Honestly I almost worship that album and I love it so much I could never express my undying love for it in words. So I guess you could call me a new school fan to even though I love all Green Day pretty equally. My point is that the cast(the cast is the problem not American Idiot) is ruining Green Day and taking priority over Green Day music and it is taking away from the greatest work in modern rock history: American Idiot.

[GDM]

I am interested to see how this pans out myself. As far as I know, they've never performed this song together, and I'm eager to see what they do together with it. It's actually not one of my favorites, but eh...who knows,maybe they'll wow me!

Yea, it's not one of my favorite songs from the album, too. We'll see what happens, I guess.

[BJWolf]

Yes, I do realize that, thank you. I do know the musical had a part to do with the progress of 21stCB. But so did stringing the songs together, writing them, putting keys and notes, bass, drums and guitar to them, recording... You can't just snap your fingers and make a CD, either. God knows how long it took to write those songs and perfect them. Also, while they were there to help work on the musical, they were not there the whole time. They'd pop in every now and then to see how the songs were going. The rest of the time was most likely spent working in the recording studio figuring out 21stCB. We don't know, neither of us have tried working on 2 different projects that can affect your entire career before, have we?

No we haven't but I think we both know from life experiences that when you try to devote yourself to more than one thing that ends up subtracting from both. I'm experiencing this in my life now and it kills me that I'm not as good at sports as I could be(I'm still pretty damn good. I'm fifteen and throw a baseball 83mph and can hit a baseball 350+ feet and can drive a golfball 350 yards and I'm a par-boogie golfer) because I'm also trying to devout myself to the debate team, a musical I'm in, school, and religion.

[plaid ducky]

I'm 15. American Idiot is a huge part of my life. It changed my life so much and it is the greatest fucking album there is or ever will be. Honestly I almost worship that album and I love it so much I could never express my undying love for it in words. So I guess you could call me a new school fan to even though I love all Green Day pretty equally. My point is that the cast(the cast is the problem not American Idiot) is ruining Green Day and taking priority over Green Day music and it is taking away from the greatest work in modern rock history: American Idiot.

When you mean the cast, you actually mean the musical, right? Because, quite frankly, it's not the cast that's ruining your vision of Green Day; it's the musical, "American Idiot," as a whole.

[GDM]

I'm 15. American Idiot is a huge part of my life. It changed my life so much and it is the greatest fucking album there is or ever will be. Honestly I almost worship that album and I love it so much I could never express my undying love for it in words. So I guess you could call me a new school fan to even though I love all Green Day pretty equally. My point is that the cast(the cast is the problem not American Idiot) is ruining Green Day and taking priority over Green Day music and it is taking away from the greatest work in modern rock history: American Idiot.

Your point is taken, but I think it's a bit overstated. I don't think it's "ruining" Green Day. And it's not taking away from American Idiot, it's what Green Day envisioned for the album all along, or at least in some theater/movie setting. I think this is a phase that Green Day is going through and I am pretty sure that the next album won't be a concept album, but just an album, and an awesome one at that.

I do think that you have to realize that all bands loose something over time. I'm much older than you and bands that I thought would be around forever faded or vanished. I think that maybe it's best for Green Day at this point to explore avenues for themselves because let's face it, there will come a day when the three of them can't hop around the stage the way they do now and have done for the last 20 years. They might be able to still move, but even Mick Jagger can't do it like when he was young. So while they still will make albums, they are probably going to move onto other stuff, too.

I don't know, if you're upset now, just wait until the movie comes out. The hype around that might kill you!

When you mean the cast, you actually mean the musical, right? Because, quite frankly, it's not the cast that's ruining your vision of Green Day; it's the musical, "American Idiot," as a whole.

Good point, there.

[BJWolf]

When you mean the cast, you actually mean the musical, right? Because, quite frankly, it's not the cast that's ruining your vision of Green Day; it's the musical, "American Idiot," as a whole.

Correct but the cast is means by which that is accomplished.

[ChelseaWhatsername]

No we haven't but I think we both know from life experiences that when you try to devote yourself to more than one thing that ends up subtracting from both. I'm experiencing this in my life now and it kills me that I'm not as good at sports(I'm still pretty damn good. I'm fifteen and throw a baseball 83mph and can drive a golfball 350 yards and I'm a par-boogie golfer) because I'm also trying to devout myself to the debate team, a musical I'm in, school, and religion.

Don't need details on how fast you can throw a stupid ball.

It's called balance. If you organize yourself you can work on 2 or more things and give equal attention to it all. You learn to do that in high school, don't you?

As professional singers/songwriters/instrumentalists, I'm pretty sure the Green Day gang have their shit straightened out. They've been doing this for over 20 years.

[GDM]

Correct but the cast is means by which that is accomplished.

So, you think the cast sucks, is that what you're saying? Because I think Plaid Ducky put it correctly, it seems that it's the entire idea of American Idiot as theatrical musical that gets to you? Or do you think you'd feel differently if it had a different director, or just not made at all, or just left on its own to promote itself, on its own two feet?

[ifmemoryserves]

I don't know, if you're upset now, just wait until the movie comes out. The hype around that might kill you!

ahahaha, oh lord.

[Tiffx]

I consider myself a Green Day fan because I appreciate their music and I love seeing them perform as a band. I understand that Green Day are proud of the musical and enjoy performing with the caste, but that doesn't mean that all fans have to sit back and respect every single project and thing they create. You can still be a fan of the band and be critical of certain things they do. It doesn't always have to be either loving everything and anything the band do just because they created it and enjoy it too, or hating on the band completely. There is middle ground for criticism IMO.

Also, I personally don't see the AI musical and Green Day as a one entire entity that you have to either appreciate or hate completely and be a 'bad' fan. Sure Green Day were very hands on with the musical and were completely behind it, but fans can still be critical of the musical while simultaneously loving Green Day and wanting to see them perform.

[JT of Suburbia]

the broadway adaption of american idiot is wayy to much like HSM

they made it all happy and childish IMO

glee should have just done a green day episode and gotten it over with insted of all this touring and interviews about it

[ifmemoryserves]

You can still be a fan of the band and be critical of certain things they do. It doesn't always have to be either loving everything and anything the band do just because they created it and enjoy it too, or hating on the band completely. There is middle ground for criticism IMO.

THIS

But it's more relevant for all the people who are baawwwing over the "What are some things you don't like about Green Day?" thread

[plaid ducky]

the broadway adaption of american idiot is wayy to much like HSM

they made it all happy and childish IMO

glee should have just done a green day episode and gotten it over with insted of all this touring and interviews about it

I know that it's your opinion and everything but have you seen the musical? And I don't mean clips of it on YouTube, but actually have seen it.

Having seen "American Idiot" (and High School Musical, out of sheer curiosity), I can tell you that they're two very different entities. AI is not all happy & childish. In fact, it's pretty dark at certain points. You can't judge on the actual content of the musical without seeing it.

And by the way, having a Glee Green Day episode would be so much worse than the musical, at least the cast of AI can sing.

[blitzkriegdeb]

If Glee covered Green Day I'd give myself a colonoscopy with one of my ribs.

Like someone else said, the musical will eventually run it's course and end. I guess you have to think of it from their perspective: they helped to create a highly popular Broadway musical based off of their work. Although, I do feel like the promotion of it kind of pulled away promotion (or lack thereof) from 21stCB. In the end, Green Day is still Green Day, no ifs ands or buts.

[JT of Suburbia]

I know that it's your opinion and everything but have you seen the musical? And I don't mean clips of it on YouTube, but actually have seen it.

Having seen "American Idiot" (and High School Musical, out of sheer curiosity), I can tell you that they're two very different entities. AI is not all happy & childish. In fact, it's pretty dark at certain points. You can't judge on the actual content of the musical without seeing it.

And by the way, having a Glee Green Day episode would be so much worse than the musical, at least the cast of AI can sing.

no i havn't seen the musical, I'm only going by youtube clips

but from what I have seen It's not something I'd pay to see, then again thats just me

I supose I shouldn't judge it till I have seen it but im worried it will kill my view on american idiot

when i 1st heard the album I could really relate to it, i was going through some bad times in life and the songs made me feel so much better and helped me get through 2 years of school, I'd hate it if something came along and ruined that for me